MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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From the Crooks and Liars article
https://crooksandliars.com/2020/01/virginia-governor-asks-legislature-remove
Lee did not think there should be monuments to the traitors.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/robert-e-lee-opposed-confederate-monuments
by rmrd0000 on Sun, 01/05/2020 - 4:14pm
Sure, whatever it takes to get blown away in the South, we should get on it. I mean, better to make a moral point and lose an election to a cohort of corrupt right-wingers than to stick to talking points and electoral priorities. We'll eventually get them out of office, like in Venezuela - hope springs eternal.
PS - did you know as of 1776 pretty much all residents of the colonies, the original "Americans" including Founding Fathers, were traitors to England? And did you know that all Texans were traitors from Mexico, from which they illegally and militarily seceded (with help from the U.S., the celebtlrated Alamo being their much bloodier and more disastrous Battle of Ft Sumter)? And did you know we basically stole Florida from Spain thru continual incursions in absence of enough defense, so they gave up and abandoned it? Did you know our fake trumped up Remember The Maine expedition to Guantanamo harbor resembled Lincoln's stronghanded tactics for Sumter, winning us Gitmo forever (including as an offshore torture & habeas corpus exempt site in recent years)? Did you know no troops died from the bombardment at Fort Sumter (2 from a backfired gun)? That Union soldiers switched forts to one they thought easier to defend? That the initial blockade on the fort was carried out by the South Carolina militia, since the fort was in Charleston harbor and there was no Confederate Army yet? Did you know Scotland will be voting again for independence, i.e. "secession", yet few in London will be calling them "traitors", especially since the UK is in the middle of seceding from the EU - oddly without Brussels sending gunships nor bombers across the Channel? Strange world.
by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 01/05/2020 - 6:07pm
History, it's about long-dead people and it's complicated.
by artappraiser on Sun, 01/05/2020 - 8:21pm
Sometimes it's simple. Was looking at old archives:
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 01/06/2020 - 1:27am
you bad!
by artappraiser on Mon, 01/06/2020 - 9:22am
From Dean Obeidallah on the reason for secession.
https://www.cnn.com/2013/10/25/opinion/obeidallah-confederate-flag/index.html
The full speech
https://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/mod/1861stephens.asp
Edit to add:
On secession itself
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_v._White
by rmrd0000 on Mon, 01/06/2020 - 4:28pm
So is secession never valid, or only from the exceptional United States? Isn't it odd that the US can gain land from UK, Canada, France, Spain, Mexico, Russia, and Native Americans, but never ever ever lose it? It defies gravity.
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 01/06/2020 - 6:28pm
Topic seems to be missing from this article, you just can't get the A.P. to get things right about the really crucial priority issues for Virginia Dems, I guess:
Top issues in the 2020 Virginia legislative session, Jan. 8
by artappraiser on Wed, 01/08/2020 - 1:23am
Look towards the bottom:
LEFTOVER LAST CENTURYS BUSINESS [....]
LEFTOVER TWO CENTURYS AGO BUSINESS [....]
by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 01/08/2020 - 4:03am