MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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Contaminant found in marijuana vaping products linked to deadly lung illnesses, tests show
By artappraiser on Fri, 09/06/2019 - 5:37am |Dangerous to inhale your vitamin supplements!
By Lena H, Sun @ WashingtonPost.com, Sept. 5
State and federal health officials investigating mysterious lung illnesses linked to vaping have found the same chemical in samples of marijuana products used by people sickened in different parts of the country and who used different brands of products in recent weeks.
The chemical is an oil derived from vitamin E. Investigators at the U.S. Food and Drug Administration found the oil in cannabis products in samples collected from patients who fell ill across the United States. FDA officials shared that information with state health officials during a telephone briefing this week, according to several officials who took part in the call. That same chemical was also found in nearly all cannabis samples from patients who fell ill in New York in recent weeks [....]
[....] The oil derived from the vitamin, known as vitamin E acetate, is commonly available as a nutritional supplement and is used in topical skin treatments. It is not known to cause harm when ingested as a vitamin supplement or applied to the skin [....]
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2019/09/05/contaminant-found-vaping-products-linked-deadly-lung-illnesses-state-federal-labs-show/
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Don't vape oils. That was tough.
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 09/06/2019 - 4:05pm
The whole vaping trend is ridiculous. After decades of hard work we finally convinced most people to stop killing themselves with cigarettes only to see them start vaping. Which while possibly less dangerous than smoking at first look was likely to be bad for you. People are just so stupid.
by ocean-kat on Fri, 09/06/2019 - 4:23pm
No, smoking's still huge. Vaping saves a lot of lives. And people like it which counts fir something
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 09/06/2019 - 5:49pm
When they actually figure out why nicotine, caffeine and THC and alcohol, for that matter, are like a necessity for certain people to feel better and face life everyday, then it will stop. It's just that simple, takes terrible addiction for someone to use something that makes them feel shitty. Most do these things because it makes them feel better. Even teens, it's not all peer pressure. None of psychiatrists bag full of psychoactive pharmaceuticals so far has proven to work as well as these 4, basically from all I read is that all their tricks are big fails. People self-medicate because it works better than the shit the doctors prescribe. Not everyone gets a high from healthy diet and jogging or going to the gym, sorry. If you are one that does, consider yourself lucky, that's all. Medicine is still pretty primevil as to quality of life for many.
Edit to add: the prohibition puritan types in their zeal forget that contamination of lettuce and other produce makes more people sick every year.
by artappraiser on Sat, 09/07/2019 - 8:58am
p.s. I'm basically with him:
Have We Hit Peak Vape Panic? The war on e-cigarettes just escalated.
By Spencer Bokat-Lindell; Mr. Bokat-Lindell is a writer in The New York Times Opinion section, Sept. 5
by artappraiser on Sat, 09/07/2019 - 9:34am
It's a real fear that someone somewhere is enjoying themselves, and not McDonalds. Tar in cigarettes kills, not nicotine. Caffeine is relatively harmless. THC as a microbuzz gets some people creative. Only alcohol of the bunch is a serious danger.
by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 09/07/2019 - 7:01pm
It's a real fear that someone somewhere is enjoying themselves
bingo
Otherwise this thinking is at work:
(Update on brother: he is now addicted to lemon water, as it helps prevent kidney stones. Guzzles it daily. Who knows WTF other part of his body this is ruining?)
by artappraiser on Sat, 09/07/2019 - 8:00pm
Lemons are very acid and will dissolve his tooth structure. No problem though if he has full dentures.
by NCD on Sat, 09/07/2019 - 10:02pm
I remember a peak "women are drinking too much!" brouhaha last year from a purported anti-Trump liberal. All thestatisticsere hyperventilated overto fret that women might go out more with the usual exaggerated worries that X drinks over whatever period makes you an alcoholic.
I recently was getting the same kind of bullshit where even a couple glasses of wine a couple tumes a week was "risky" or "still adducteive", so I quit for 2 months no problem except made lack of going out even less fun, with 0 response that maybe I wasn't at risk if being an alcoholic after all. Of course many people *are* borderline alcoholic before they tip over the line, but our PSA's are never about subtlety and differentiation - only emergencies and complete obedience to some wisdom or other.
by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 09/08/2019 - 4:47am
too many Puritans have invaded the L.A. that this (wealthy & highly successful) Brit-born artist once loved:
David Hockney says he is relocating to France where he can 'smoke in restaurants' and work 'twice as much'
By Rozina Sabur @ telegraph.co.uk, Sept. 10
by artappraiser on Wed, 09/11/2019 - 2:35am
The Prohibition model always seems to get such lovely results, why not try it again?
Flavored vapes are facing a ban. What does that mean for vapers?
Some are stocking up on flavored pods. Others are relying on an online "black market" when the ban is enacted.
By Terry Nguyen @ Vox.com
by artappraiser on Wed, 09/18/2019 - 1:39pm
Do you trust the CDC? I wouldn't advise it based on the following. The CDC announced Nov. 8 that they made a "breakthrough discovery" of the same thing that Federal FDA labs in NY state knew and reported in early Sept: the problem was Vitamin E acetate in cannabis/THC vaping products:
https://www.theverge.com/2019/11/8/20955446/cdc-vaping-breakthrough-lung-injury-investigation
https://detroit.cbslocal.com/2019/11/09/breakthrough-in-cdc-vaping-illness-investigation-vitamin-e-acetate-linked-to-thc-may-be-to-blame/
https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/basic_information/e-cigarettes/severe-lung-disease.html
by artappraiser on Mon, 11/11/2019 - 11:20am
Just to clarify, in a disease outbreak, state and federal agencies investigate and report their findings separately. The CDC acknowledges the previous findings of the FDA and state agencies on their website. It is a part of medical investigations to have multiple sources confirm findings. On the CDC website, they merely state this is the first time the agency found the acetate in lung tissue samples.
https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/basic_information/e-cigarettes/severe-lung-disease.html#key-facts-vit-e
I don't think the CDC wrote the headlines.
by rmrd0000 on Mon, 11/11/2019 - 12:20pm
Meanwhile countries like China & India have been banning vaping, despite having by far the most deaths & illnesses from the much more hazardous regular tobbaco cigarettes. And now everyone's all worried about nicotine, even though it's basically like caffeine, ust a stimulant with no big harmful side-effects. But people having fun is worse than people dying.
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 11/11/2019 - 3:24pm