MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE by Michael Wolraich Order today at Barnes & Noble / Amazon / Books-A-Million / Bookshop |
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I would just like to point out that once upon a time there were 100's of German newspapers being published in the upper midwest of the U.S.
by artappraiser on Wed, 06/10/2020 - 4:48pm
by artappraiser on Wed, 06/10/2020 - 5:02pm
Death at the hands of police is higher for blacks 30 per 100K versus whites versus 12 per 100K for whites
https://www.statista.com/chart/21857/people-killed-in-police-shootings-in-the-us/
Death at the hands of police is the 6th leading cause of death for young black males.
https://news.umich.edu/police-sixth-leading-cause-of-death-for-young-black-men/
by rmrd0000 on Wed, 06/10/2020 - 5:16pm
Even taking that into account, his results merely show those deaths have gotten far more than equal media attention than the white deaths, within that time period.
by artappraiser on Wed, 06/10/2020 - 5:40pm
Seems like media is reporting on the group that is disproportionately impacted.
by rmrd0000 on Wed, 06/10/2020 - 9:48pm
Was, not is. I repeat: was. Since 2015, far from being ignored, being stressed. Not a situation where rioting was just what caused people to change their minds, it was in the news. A lot. Over at least five years, the media was covering it heavily. Not a case of "unheard". The reason? May have been BLM, maybe something else, maybe a combo. But not: nothing changes.
by artappraiser on Wed, 06/10/2020 - 10:10pm
Interesting POV
Your first post was about a plethora of German newspapers. Why was that your first post?
by rmrd0000 on Wed, 06/10/2020 - 10:59pm
Her first post was about Black journalists. Her 1st comment was about German press in the Midwest. Since she's from Wisconsin of distinctive Central-Eastern European stock, likely it's just a topic she finds of personal interest. Why, do you smell something suspicious?
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 06/11/2020 - 5:17am
Yep
by rmrd0000 on Thu, 06/11/2020 - 8:06am
Oh I meant it to be obvious: that I was having a dream, inspired by recent rapid culture change, that while it might be necessary now, that one day very soon there would not be a need for black journalism and white journalism but just: journalism!
A few like you, on the other hand, seem to have a dream that one day black journalism will smite white journalism and be on top of the world. Segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever? That one day the Negro Baseball League will come back, except they will be not just only be separate but more powerful than than the white baseball league?
You seem so invested in the idea that color of skin should continue to mean something for eternity. Wakanda maybe?
Sad news for your dream in the U.S.: the millennial generation and GenZ seem to be miscegenating and the color of skin is getting more mixed up all the time. Just like the German immigrants whose great-great grandchildren are only 1/16 German and can't read the language.
P.S. Came to his senses once he had seen with his very own eyes that all colors of skin could be joined under the creed of Islam:
by artappraiser on Thu, 06/11/2020 - 6:50pm
How Is it we can laud Malcolm X's turn from his earlier racist, criminal and intolerant past, but someone who say wore blackface 20 years before as say a college student is tarnished forever?
Malcolm's conversion was mostly the last year of his life, 1963-64. He was killed at 39, having been out of jail just 10 years.
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 06/11/2020 - 7:06pm
We saw Malcolm's change occur in front of our eyes. We read his words on seeing blue- eyed people who were his brothers.
In other cases people were outed. Some had problems remembering the events.
by rmrd0000 on Thu, 06/11/2020 - 7:24pm
Going to a frat party to get drunk dressed like a celebrity of another ethnic group is same as holding stage approvingly with the top of the US Nazí party.
"people were outed" - yes, so were gays, and "communists". 20 years they held onto that dark secret of pretending they were Michael Jackson for an evening of uncaring frivolity. Here's my own confession - obce as a Child I Went trick-or-treating as a Berkeley hippie, even wearing a wig, And not having learned my leasing, I later appropriated a Roman toga fór a toga party (I was the only one who wore one, which kind of surprisedd me fór an advertised toga party, but I guess they were more woke than me and caught themselves before appropriation took hold). And while I dont recall wearing blackface, i do recall putting on whiteface to make myself even whiter, which Is probably even more racist. I think it was to be a vampire, but it might as well have been Cecil Rhodes.
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 06/11/2020 - 7:44pm
Malcolm change played out in public. Rockwell was a separatist. Malcolm X was a separatist, until he converted. Malcolm X did not believe that whites and blacks were going to walk hand in hand. Malcolm wanted whites simply not to be racist.
by rmrd0000 on Thu, 06/11/2020 - 8:06pm
Rockwell was a fuckload more than a "separatist" - try "Jew-and black-hating demagoguing Hitler-adoring überracist". And you are a weirdly rationalizing effing moron - debating with you is like taking on a squeegee - all wet and squishy and all over the fucking place. If you "want Whites simply not to be racist" you dont go on stage palling around with one of the world's best known racists - it kind of sends mixed signals, dontcha think?
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 06/11/2020 - 8:20pm
I gave my reason why Malcolm X got to be considered as separate from Rockwell and Muhammad
by rmrd0000 on Thu, 06/11/2020 - 9:24pm
AA had already reference Malcolm's trip to Mecca, And most of us have probably read Haley's book so we know the story already.. Your usual blacksplaining bit only served to muddy the waters.
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 06/11/2020 - 9:39pm
No mud.
Malcolm was born again.
by rmrd0000 on Thu, 06/11/2020 - 9:46pm
Can a blackface wearer be born again, or that only applies to Nazi supporters or blue-eyed devil haters?
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 06/12/2020 - 1:30am
Too easy
See: Ralph Northam.
by rmrd0000 on Fri, 06/12/2020 - 8:14am
Comes to mind not everyone lauds Malcolm X's "conversion"; some prefer the angry racist Malcolm X? Grievance grievance grievance fuhever...we now have a President expert in stoking culture wars grievance on all sides, how's that working out? We also have foreigners who see culture wars grievance in our social media as our achilles heel and just love to stoke it some more....
by artappraiser on Thu, 06/11/2020 - 7:27pm
Who are those who prefer pre-conversion Malcolm? Malcolm X rejected a corrupt Elijah Muhammad. Post-conversion Malcolm had no expectation that whites in the United Stated would be trustworthy allies.
by rmrd0000 on Thu, 06/11/2020 - 8:00pm
A career calling them "blue-eyed devils" might make you more suspicious whether you could call on their support. Stubborn Whites...
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 06/11/2020 - 8:05pm
He did not expect their support.
by rmrd0000 on Thu, 06/11/2020 - 8:08pm
Yes, you said that, "He had no expectation"
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 06/11/2020 - 8:09pm
There are race-based groups of journalists for the same reasons there are ethnic minority based organizations in medicine, law, dentistry, nursing, etc.
The Pittsburgh Post Gazette is barring black reporters from covering the protests.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2020/06/06/pittsburgh-post-gazette/
Many appreciate the lens that black reporters provide on different issues
by rmrd0000 on Thu, 06/11/2020 - 10:18am
my underlining:
excerpt from John McWorter essay @
And I think that's because what we've been dealing with on a national level is not centrally about police, they are tangentially a problem, but in the end they are just a symbol, as was George Floyd's death, as is a statue of Columbus or Cecil Rohdes.
by artappraiser on Thu, 06/11/2020 - 9:51pm
Media choses what to report, and there is bias in that, of course, always, because everything can't get priority coverage at once. But labeling it intentional "propaganda", that's usually wrong, it's just bias.
Hence an open mind to a variety of polemic is important, even within a tribe like "black journalists".
And one simply can't totally control the spin people put on top--
that's stereotype absorbed from one's own culture. And that can change very much over a lifetime as one meets more people ("meeting" people can be metaphoric--i.e., becoming a fan of a celebrity, tv show, or pundit or writer, interacting with someone on social media, etc.) and simply sometimes just gets better at reading facial expressions and poses and visual situations, i.e. wisdom of age
by artappraiser on Thu, 06/11/2020 - 10:10pm
an important point: non journalist cell-phone videos serve the purpose of helping more segregated tribal people learn how to "read" people of other more segregated tribes. I think this has caused a lot of the escalation of culture change. Because it's not "edited" like our broadcast tv shows once were (Though it's still somewhat "edited" by "ratings"--as what else is "going viral" but high ratings?)
This also why it's incredibly dangerous the more these are falsified or successfully edited so that they are not slices of reality.
by artappraiser on Thu, 06/11/2020 - 10:17pm
by artappraiser on Fri, 06/12/2020 - 11:44am
McWhorter notes that blacks receive rougher treatment at the hands of police. 90% of the stops of black young men during the height of Stop and Frisk resulted in handcuffing for nothing. Police departments are going to have to change. "Hands up don't shot" remains because the Ferguson police department used the black community as a piggy bank.
McWhorter does a podcast on Blogginheads with Conservative Glenn Loury. They realize that they are contrarians and outliers. They repeatedly focus on the absolute numbers of deaths of different racial groups at the hands of police. Because a police homicide in a community that makes up a smaller percentage of the total population means that it is easier to make connections with the murder victim. More people in the community have been roughed up by the police, or know someone roughed up by the police. McWhorter and Loury come across as apologists.
As long as the community is "roughed up" more, there is little trust when a police associated homicide occurs.
Because of this close contact effect that enrages communities nationwide, it will be the black community that lights the spark to create police reform.
McWhorter and Loury get the side eye because they bask in the glory of ridiculing people for worrying about police homicides while seemingly ignoring the non fatal encounters.
On another note
It seems Coleman Hughes graduated from Columbia
On a podcast I came across, Hughes noted that he attended a BLM protest in NYC as they were the only game in town
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C-VrsK93GE
First Loury/McWhorter podcast on George Floyd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RMEiclpA7E
Second Loury/McWhorter podcast on George Floyd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8fndiNZimA
by rmrd0000 on Thu, 06/11/2020 - 11:05pm
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 06/12/2020 - 1:56am