Video: White Women Came Out For Trump

Video: White Women Came Out For Trump

By Orion on Sat, 11/14/2020 - 5:37pm |

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https://www.msnbc.com/am-joy/watch/trump-s-increased-2020-votes-from-white-women-analyzed-by-experts-95932997905

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The below was just at the top of my Twitter feed because it was retweeted by Andrew Sullivan, not because I follow Daily Caller.

I have seen enough of similar, though, to know that right wing media knows exactly what hurts Dems with certain demographics and they go hunting oppo research for each and every instance they can find and play it up real big and it goes viral and swings and undecided do end up seeing it eventually even if they are not looking for it.

The Dems think they’re gonna win Georgia by attacking “whiteness”. https://t.co/Oivly1UE0C
— Andrew Sullivan (@sullydish) November 14, 2020

by artappraiser on Sat, 11/14/2020 - 5:48pm

I've been following Bo for a while, he's a very thoughtful person:

Although people are incredibly unfair on Twitter, it's not a bad idea to examine how people are representing your "side" and then ask yourself if there is any truth to their caricatures--is there anything your side can do better? It's likely that that there is.
— Bo Winegard (@EPoe187) November 14, 2020

by artappraiser on Sat, 11/14/2020 - 5:55pm

both sides do do it:

About an hour ago, I was traveling from the Capitol to the Hyatt hotel when a MAGA demonstrator, screaming from a microphone, called me a "homeboy in a suit." Sorry MAGA but the name is Congressman-elect Ritchie Torres.
— Ritchie Torres (@RitchieTorres) November 14, 2020

but mho, men more than women. Many women (of all colors) do tend to get frightened when men act like this or that. iIt is true that Trump acted like this. And I suspect they must have mentioned that in focus groups and polls enough to fpr many to predict a turn out against Trump for the way he behaved. But what happened is that something happened that scared many of those very same even more than Trump's behavior. Just my own suppositions as a person of the same sex and of white skin color.

by artappraiser on Sat, 11/14/2020 - 6:04pm

Fixed it - often URL doesn't take, so after you post, you go back in to reinsert the URL.
Forget which combination of device & browser this happens on, but easy enough - just check if you got a blank.

by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 11/14/2020 - 6:00pm

It's because of the smartphone, I think. I tried various ways of getting the link in there.

by Orion on Sat, 11/14/2020 - 7:41pm

Pretty sure you just go back and reinsert the URL and it takes the 2nd time.

by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 11/15/2020 - 3:01am

GA Senate candidate had no problem granting an interview with a white supremacist

U.S. Sen. Kelly Loeffler granted an interview to a TV pundit associated with white supremacy and Nazism.

The interview aired on One America News Network on Thursday and Loeffler promoted it heavily on her Facebook and Twitter accounts Friday, tagging the controversial host.

“I joined @JackPosobiec on @OANN to discuss why I had to call out the BLM political organization — and why the woke mob is trying to cancel me,” she wrote in one tweet. “WATCH the full interview here.”

Jewish groups and media observers pointed out that Posobiec promotes conspiracy theories and once associated with white supremacists including Richard Spencer, who organized the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Va. Posobiec has been criticized in the past for posting anti-Semitic tweets, including tweets that included the numbers 14 and 88, codes used by neo-Nazis.

White supremacist David Lane, who died in prison, is known for promoting the “14 words” racist slogan: “We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children.” The number 88 is code among neo-Nazis for Heil Hitler. (H is the eighth letter in the alphabet.)

She spoke to Posobiec for about five minutes, focused on her ongoing clash with the WNBA over its “Black lives matter” campaign.

Loeffler’s team would not say whether she was aware of Posobiec’s ties to Nazism and anti-Semitism, and they condemned the AJC for asking about it.

https://www.ajc.com/politics/politics-blog/kelly-loeffler-takes-blm-criticism-to-host-with-white-supremacist-ties/YFGCMWR3DJD3RCLGFSAK3BXVGE/

by rmrd0000 on Sat, 11/14/2020 - 6:01pm

1) what was the topic Orion posted about?
2) are you discussing that topic, or just posting stuff that's kind of maybe somewhat related?
(there was a white female Trump supporter involved, yeah, I get it)

by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 11/14/2020 - 6:06pm

and you pointing it out challenges the right wing tactic of race baiting how? Just more of same. I.E. Dems say there's no racial tension and that we can all get along, right wing says they lie, here's this and here's the Dem side doing it too. Clue: if Dems like you want to win swing voters, they have to have a competing message, not the same one that we are on the way to a race war.

by artappraiser on Sat, 11/14/2020 - 6:10pm

The way to get to a race war is to deny tensions exist. If the other campaign attacks on the subject of whiteness, Loffler's version of whiteness should be exposed. Do you think most white people would agree with her connections to a white supremacist?

Loeffler had no problem accepting praise from a QAnon wingnut

Struggling to coalesce GOP support in next month's special election in Georgia, appointed Sen. Kelly Loeffler celebrated an endorsement Thursday from Marjorie Taylor Greene, the controversial congressional candidate who has embraced elements of the QAnon conspiracy theory and has a history of making racist and bigoted comments.

Don't you think pointing out Loeffler's version of whiteness is important?.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/15/kelly-loeffler-marjorie-taylor-greene-endorsement-429635

If the discussion is about "whiteness", shouldn't we define the meaning of "whiteness"?

by rmrd0000 on Sat, 11/14/2020 - 6:24pm

Orion's posting in white women's support of Trump. You want to drag it off into a discussion about "whiteness" or whatever one if your fav topics is. STOP IT. Stick to the fucking theme of the post, or post your own to talk about whiteness or what not. You glean a post for some word you can go off in a tangent with. Not appreciated. [deleted part of thread where it went off the rails]

by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 11/15/2020 - 3:04am

Young white women for Biden by 13%

In estimates that were revised Wednesday, CIRCLE's analysis found that young white men supported Trump by a six-point margin (51 versus 45 percent), while young white women favored former vice president Biden by 13 percentage points (55 to 42 percent).
- https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2020/11/05/analysis-sheds-first-ligh...

by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 11/14/2020 - 6:16pm

can't be true, underneath it all, all whypipple think the same and that's why you can't trust em (Edit to add: all the disagreement and ad hominens on places like Dagblog and Twitter? all for show, not real, all one tribe that sticks together.)

by artappraiser on Sat, 11/14/2020 - 6:33pm

Daily Caller pointed out a snippet of a speech by Warnock

I linked to articles by Loeffler that can be used as a counter

by rmrd0000 on Sat, 11/14/2020 - 6:35pm

Presumably white women live in these suburbs as well

Dont get me wrong democrats have made lasting gains in the well off suburbs around me but the absolutely massive 30 point swings are not built on solid ground. Id say at best half will survive which is still very good news nut not enough to win federal elections yet.
— Jeremiah GET A FLU SHOT (@JeremyM72014840) November 14, 2020

In GA the metro atlanta suburbs make up an absolutely massive percentage of the population. Much much much bigger than Atlanta proper much less inner city Atlanta. Even with these massive gains among these suburbs it still came down to a small fraction of a point in the end.
— Jeremiah GET A FLU SHOT (@JeremyM72014840) November 14, 2020

My district went for Biden by almost ten points but i saw almost no Biden signs or Trump signs for that matter. A lot of my neighbors are low tax cultural moderates who just couldnt put up with 4 more years of Trump.
— Jeremiah GET A FLU SHOT (@JeremyM72014840) November 14, 2020

by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 11/14/2020 - 6:36pm

Certified Woke: you can't trust any of us white wimmin:

VIDEO - MSNBC Guest: White Women ‘Weaponize Their Identity’ Against Black Men https://t.co/U12zX7yd2X
— Grabien (@GrabienMedia) November 14, 2020

by artappraiser on Sat, 11/14/2020 - 9:49pm

What are your disagreements with th segment?

by rmrd0000 on Sun, 11/15/2020 - 9:49am

I don't think all ~~white women~~ women with white skin think alike. That's it.

Edit to make strike-out correction. And to add: I think it's very racist.

by artappraiser on Sun, 11/15/2020 - 12:51pm

The question was why did so many, not why did all white women vote for Trump.

Is that a racist question?

by rmrd0000 on Sun, 11/15/2020 - 1:14pm

Bill Burr on white women:

by Orion on Mon, 11/16/2020 - 5:09am

Blazingly obvious

by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 11/16/2020 - 5:13am

Similarly some evangelicals try to thread the needle

Have the evangelical leaders who went all-in for Trump "hurt the church’s ability to reach people outside the church? Absolutely," Andy Stanley, the hugely influential pastor of arguably the second-biggest megachurch in the U.S., told me. https://t.co/Mulbiasj8p
— Emma Green (@emmaogreen) November 15, 2020

by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 11/16/2020 - 10:08am

Well, many evangelicals have white skin but quite a few of them have black skin, so there's your confusion problem right there! If you'd just keep your skin color tribes segregated, you wouldn't have these problems! It's very simple, all people with black skin are right thinking, and all people with white skin have bad thinking and need to be re-educated. Capiche?

by artappraiser on Mon, 11/16/2020 - 11:59am

Diverse women in GA, xover in AZ - who knew?
and then Catholic girls (ref. Zappa) & suburban women.
Emma's on fire.
GA

What “an incredible way to close that circle after ’16, to have this state, of all states, be one of the ones to say, ‘We’re done.’”

I followed @senatorjen and the women who took over Newt Gingrich's old stomping ground and turned Georgia blue:https://t.co/UN6Iwj9CRd
— Emma Green (@emmaogreen) November 13, 2020

AZ women

Formerly Republican women found themselves cheering for Arizona to turn blue. Will there be a place for them in the Democratic Party?

"I’m walking through the wilderness, but I feel okay with that.”

Great piece by @elainejgodfrey:https://t.co/XT9h7COu4a
— Emma Green (@emmaogreen) November 10, 2020

Catholic

While you wait, some swing state reading:

Me on the crucial Catholic vote in Pennsylvania (which is only looking more important): https://t.co/0Gw9t5dYp8
— Emma Green (@emmaogreen) November 4, 2020

Suburban

Maine and Ohio are already decided but these @russellberman and @elainejgodfrey pieces are good and mighty relevant: https://t.co/lCeGkqq9HK

and https://t.co/d6GqzFBV99
— Emma Green (@emmaogreen) November 4, 2020

Kelly

by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 11/16/2020 - 12:25pm

Should note the elephant in the room - Gabby Giffords, Congresswoman forced into retirement by a shooter, and her astronaut husband Mark Kelly replacing her. Can we talk weird exciting American diversity that sometimes is far beyond simple words? Gifford, a Jewish/Christian Scientist, ex-CEO of family Tire business & Price Waterhouse wonk who studied Mexican-American relations, switched from Republican to Democrat in 2000 to run for office. And husband, Navy/Operation Desert Storm combat/NASA shuttle pilot (including after the shooting) who switched from Independent to Democrat in 2018. I can only imagine the start power & effect they've had on the Arizona community.

Kelly now stressing bipartisanship.

by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 11/16/2020 - 12:47pm

Wow, what a fab collection of finds, PP, right up my alley. Was hoping some journalist peeps do more on the Catholic thing BUT ESPECIALLY

Diverse women in GA, xover in AZ - who knew?

I knew. I knew from real life adventures in Greenville, SC and Atlanta over the years. I tried to post on it when I saw something, here and there. Southern wimmin have really strong interracial friendships, it's definitely been a thing for a very long time. (There's also the stereotype Hollywood version of the phenom Fried Green Tomatoes and Steel Magnolias etc.)

by artappraiser on Mon, 11/16/2020 - 1:25pm

This reminded of this thread:

Didn't you know that all demographic categories encompassing tens of millions of individuals determine the consciousness and choices of each and every member and it's morally wrong to suggest otherwise? https://t.co/Zpn5aMRfBI
— Wesley Yang (@wesyang) November 21, 2020

They are talking about this tweeted article:

I wish this article had something about a white woman, even just the one (and I'm sure she's out there somewhere!) who bought an anti-racist book, or tried but it was sold out, then went and voted for Trump https://t.co/BYncY6F8GQ
— Phoebe Maltz Bovy (@tweetertation) November 21, 2020

by artappraiser on Fri, 11/20/2020 - 10:32pm

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