to some, Joe is ignoring the problem:

There's gonna be kickback to the dominant media narrative now; A & E fans are not necessarily the same demographic as Fox News fans -

This is what it is. He knows the words that resound with a lot of people who are far from right wingers - those that just want a stable society to live in. Democrats shouldn't be deluded into thinking that they are not going to hear a lot more like this for the foreseeable future:

Here's how having a kindly social-working approach can work out for cops:

I didn't read into this deeply and may be interpreting it wrong but it looks to me like this white (or Hispanic? whatevah-light skinned) cop just took a deal to rat on his black-skinned crooked partner (I believe a whole squad of them were involved in the fatal "drug raid"?)

edit to add: the pictures being used to illus. this story here and elsewhere are misleading because they are pictures from earlier when they both turned themselves in-that much I did check out, I think there are 3 of that particular moment at Houston Chronicle, labeled more clearly.

makes the point that a sense of humor and self-deprecation could help with a police force's image:

edit to add this too. dropping the bitterness and tit-for-tat game, this is the right way to respond to being banned from marching in the gay pride parade in uniform:

Oh the humanity, the the question for centuries: what is Manhattan to be and who does it belong to during what hours?

Warning from the law officer side of things to Asheville politicians planning reform:

quite frankly, it strikes me as ridiculously absurd to discuss "police abuse" IF THIS IS GOING TO FUCKING GO ON THE WHOLE SUMMER. Absurd! There won't be anyone left to abuse, everyone will be busy with physical therapy if they are still alive.

There's a war going on in our country with civilians at graduation parties being shot., mostly African American people, and people are protesting police! It's insane; I am going to stop trying to be "fair", this is just insane, it's insane that national politicians are not paying more attention and still playing to the "BLM narrative".

This should not be accepted as "the new normal after covid", I'm sorry. Not gonna do it, I refuse insanity and blocking out reality.

also I found it via Maggie Haberman retweeting

Atlanta now being sued for negligence in allowing BLM protesters to take over the streets, causing death:

The parents of an 8-year-old girl who was fatally shot last year near an Atlanta fast-food restaurant -- where, days earlier, a white police officer shot and killed a Black man -- filed a lawsuit on Monday against Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms and other city leaders, claiming they allowed armed vigilantes to roam the streets and tying the child's death to their alleged negligence.

The lawsuit was filed in Fulton County State Court by Charmaine Turner and Secoriey Williamson, the parents of Secoriea Turner, who was killed July 4, 2020, while riding in a car with her mother and encountering a group of armed protesters blocking a street near a Wendy's that was torched during demonstrations over the police officer killing of Rayshard Brooks.]

“Secoriea should be here. None of what we're doing will ever bring our baby back. Her life is priceless,” Turner said at a news conference announcing the lawsuit. "We deserve justice. Someone needs to be held accountable."

Also named as defendants in the lawsuit are Atlanta Police Chief Rodney Bryant, Atlanta City Council member Joyce Sheperd and Wendy's International.

"There is no dispute that this little girl was innocent -- that this family was innocent," attorney Shean Williams of The Cochran Firm said during Monday's news conference. "Did nothing wrong. On their way home, and they lost their little one." [.....]

Scholarly study suggests George Floyd protests increased polarization, "served to further racialize and politicize attitudes within domain of race and law enforcement in the US.” 

this is absolutely a major debatable point:

Chicago Police Dept. new rule as of June 11, they must limit foot pursuits:

On no-knock warrants at wrong address. By Billy Binion, an assistant editor at Reason.

His writing has appeared in HuffPost, Washington Examiner, The Saturday Evening Post, and The Virginian-Pilot, among other publications. He is a graduate of the University of Virginia.

I agree with all of this; great conversation:

two sides to every story and sometimes even cops' orders aren't made up out of thin air:

white family challenging Anadarko, OK police dept. concerning the shooting death of their son? couldn't find much on it other than this. two officers trying to resuscitate an O.D. on a call, and then the guy, Silas Lambert (roommate? drug buddy?) started going nuts on them, one officer supposedly shot in arm by him 

developing-there has been a possible execution attempt of a Houston deputy and his wife and child? at least the CNN TV report I just saw was playing it up that way, but little is known yet on motive

photo caption “There’s no way we can get to meaningful prison reduction in this country without looking at more serious crimes,” said George Gascon, the district attorney of Los Angeles.

beginning excerpt:

By Tim Arango June 19, 2021

LOS ANGELES — From inside the walls of Folsom State Prison, the two inmates, one a convicted murderer, clinked their cups of prison moonshine in a toast to the new district attorney of Los Angeles, George Gascón.

A video of the celebration was released earlier this year by Mr. Gascón’s opponents — and there are many — who used it to attack what is perhaps the most far-reaching plank of his progressive agenda: the review of nearly 20,000 old prison sentences, many for violent crimes like murder, for possible early releases.

Mr. Gascón, a Democrat, has brushed off the video as nothing more than a Willie Horton-style attack by get-tough-on-crime proponents that “plays well on Fox News.” But he doesn’t shy away from his belief that even those convicted of violent crimes deserve a chance at redemption.

“There’s no way we can get to meaningful prison reduction in this country without looking at more serious crimes,” Mr. Gascón, who also supports ending cash bail and eliminating the prosecution of juveniles as adults, said in an interview. “The public stories you hear are the really scary stuff. You’re talking about the violent sexual predator. You’re talking about some sadistic murderer. The reality is those are really a small number of the prison population and violent crime.”

But the prospect of convicted murderers getting out early, or getting lighter sentences than they would have received in a previous era, has fueled an effort to force a recall election next year and remove Mr. Gascón from office. More than a thousand volunteers, as well as dozens of paid workers, are collecting signatures for the recall at gun stores, bail bonds offices, and even outside Mr. Gascón’s home.

And inside courtrooms, some prosecutors who believe Mr. Gascón’s policies will harm public safety are openly working against him by attempting to sabotage his directives to pursue lesser sentences and not seek cash bail.

Mr. Gascón, 67, who was propelled into office by grass-roots activists in the aftermath of the police killing of George Floyd, is one of the nation’s most progressive prosecutors in one of America’s most liberal cities, and yet he is facing an intense backlash in enacting the sorts of policies demanded by protesters last year and aimed at reducing the vast racial disparities in arrests and prosecutions.

The pushback is a sign of the many challenges liberal district attorneys in big cities are facing, at a time when Republicans are increasingly trying to portray Democrats as soft on crime, amid a rise in gun violence and homicides across the nation that began during the pandemic and has continued into 2021. In Los Angeles, for instance, murders increased 36 percent last year

Mr. Gascón’s approach, and whether he can be successful, is being closely watched by activists who have led a national movement in recent years to elect prosecutors who promise to send fewer people to prison. They achieved early victories in 2016 in St. Louis and Chicago, and earned another one the next year with the election of Larry Krasner, a former civil rights attorney, as the district attorney of Philadelphia. (Mr. Krasner, who shares many of Mr. Gascón’s views, recently cemented his power by winning the Democratic primary by an overwhelming margin, all but ensuring another term in office.) But their most important victory has been Mr. Gascón’s election in Los Angeles, because of its size and its history of high incarceration rates.

While in all of those places the newcomers faced intense resistance when they took office, perhaps none of them has faced as much pushback as Mr. Gascón, who has been hampered by Civil Service protections that largely prevent him from firing prosecutors and bringing in like-minded deputies.

The recall campaign is supported by high profile figures like Sheriff Alex Villanueva and Steve Cooley, a former Los Angeles district attorney, as well as some victims of crime, including Desiree Andrade, whose son was killed in 2018 when he was beaten and thrown from a cliff after a drug deal. Some of the men charged in her son’s killing now face lesser sentences under Mr. Gascón’s policies — but still face decades in prison — and Ms. Andrade, at a recent news conference, described Mr. Gascon as pushing a “radical, pro-criminal agenda.”

The recall push, which is funded in part by Geoff Palmer, a real estate developer and Republican megadonor who raised millions for former President Donald J. Trump, is still a long shot. Supporters need to collect nearly 600,000 signatures by late October to force a new election, and recalls are easy to start in California, but rarely lead to an officeholder’s ouster [....]

 

psst: FEDS NOT DEFUNDING but actually pumping police up, sending more bodies, money, resources...Biden knows about this, he's complicit! They don't think police abuse is a priority, go figure.

NYPost runs a cop op-ed saying it's not going to help much because there's plenty of guns already there:

P.S. Heard tell that police-abuse-enabler Mayor Lightfoot was begging for this help.

I thought too many shoot em ups is why the sheriff in old tyme Colorado made everybody leave their gun with him when they came to town to mingle:

Too late now > another innocent white person killed by "police brutality".

Lawmakers come to bipartisan framework agreement on police reform

BY MARTY JOHNSON @ TheHill.com- 06/24/21 06:01 PM EDT

The three chief negotiators on a police reform package announced Thursday they had reached a bipartisan agreement on the issue. 

“After months of working in good faith, we have reached an agreement on a framework addressing the major issues for bipartisan police reform,” Rep. Karen Bass (D-Calif.), Sen. Tim Scott (R-S.C.) and Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.) said in a joint statement Thursday afternoon.

“There is still more work to be done on the final bill, and nothing is agreed to until everything is agreed to. Over the next few weeks we look forward to continuing our work toward getting a finalized proposal across the finish line.” 

At issue was the George Floyd Justice in Policing Act, which passed the House in March but has since been embroiled in negotiations led by Bass, Scott and Booker.

The bill, which would implement sweeping changes to how policing is carried out in the country, was introduced by Bass last June following the police murder of George Floyd, a Black man, in Minneapolis.

Floyd’s killing was a spark for a summer dominated by nationwide Black Lives Matter protests decrying police brutality and systemic racism.

While Bass’s bill has passed the House twice in two years, it did so with no GOP support.

That said, police reform isn’t inherently partisan; following Floyd’s murder, Scott introduced a police reform bill of his own, the Justice Act, though it failed to gain sufficient traction.

Until now, Bass, Booker and Scott have been mostly cryptic about how negotiations have gone, though optimism that a deal is within reach has been a constant. 

The initial agreement comes right before the self-imposed deadline of Friday.  

It also comes the day before Derek Chauvin, the former Minneapolis police officer who was convicted of murdering Floyd, is scheduled to be sentenced.

The final outline of the bill is still unclear, though it’s believed that qualified immunity — the powerful legal doctrine that shields law enforcement and other public officials from liability in civil lawsuits — was one of the main sticking points.

The original version of the police reform bill also sought to broaden the scope of the federal civil rights provision that prohibits officers from “willfully” denying someone of their constitutional rights, a standard of proof that is incredibly difficult to achieve in court — something Republicans have also balked at.

Scott, however, has previously hinted that a change to the statute is already off the table [....]

re: Chauvin sentencing going on right now. this is a great point as to reasons for certain laws, sentences and the health of civilization:

that said, so much terrible stuff is on video now, all kinds of terrible things that people do to each other, and easily accessed by young developing minds, including that exact scene. one wonders whether that matters anymore whether they see it in person or not? And that is our big new problem, that kids are growing up and developing brains and nervous systems that are extremely desensitized to violence?

at the junction where BLM radicals and Boogaloo Bois meet (at hatred of cops), there is a new story that we may be hearing a lot more about, to wit

The excerpts released by Arvada police are:

• “My goal today is to kill Arvada PD officers”
• “We the people were never your enemy, but we are now”
• “This is what you get, you are the people who are expendable”
• “Hundreds of you pigs should be killed daily”
• “Today I will kill as many Arvada officers as I possibly can”
• “I just hope I don’t die without killing any of you pigs”

from

MacNab has been following that story, it is part of a long thread.

She also has news on the Daytona Beach shooting of a cop (I will add in another comment.).

Those two things together apparently caused her to tweet this as well, gives you a clue how inflammatory the stories are:

here's a few replies to her:

No comment. Though in the future you might see me snark something about "send the arts & culture workers, send the clowns mental-health-promoting mimes, too!" the next mass shooting in Oakland. Meanwhile an extra $40K being spent here, was pretty damn horrific. (I admit I do wonder what Asian-American elder citizens think)

Interesting point that now, instead of taking a knee with her colleagues for a photo-op, all of them wearing kente cloth stoles, Nancy is now stressing that we have got to be respectful of our police officers:

on Chicago police scanner right now, strikes me as a good exampe how shootings happen between police and stopped drivers:

they're told on the radio that a car on the road has been used in a crime or crimes. Of course, on stopping that car and if there is no chase, they are going to approach very wary with hands on weapons, for their own safety.

So when people suggest "no more traffic cops", does this mean we just let criminals continue to drive and even perhaps rub in their continued freedom to the people they victimized?

Not me. I want them to pursue those cars and stop and interrogate anyone who is driving them, I am willing to pay for them to do that and also realize that it is a dangerous risk. How else, though, are they ever to catch a lot of criminals if it doesn't include investigating cars with registration or license used in crimes? The roads should be freed of harassment for those wanted for crimes? That's like wild west rules.

There are traffic cameras, and aiutomatic tickets sent to registrants. But that doesn't solve the problem of arresting a possible perp for an actual crime. It does no good to have a photo of him but never any action, eventually someone has to arrest him, in person, somewhere, somehow. A publicized picture alone and a fine in the mail is not justice for highjacking, armed robbery, etc., action eventually has to be taken. An "amber alert" results in nothing if all it is is an alert, the idea is to catch both the car and those inside it.

um, the new trial social worker program in NYC apparently IS NOT WORKING OUT as far as cutting down on police:

and @CrimeinNYC has a question for readers:

Baltimore: "Safe Streets outreach worker", i.e. social worker, SHOT TO DEATH (the 2nd one!!!) 

BONUS related REPEAT FROM ABOVE FOR THOSE WHO HAVE THEIR FINGERS IN THEIR EARS ON THIS experiment over, your stupid ideas are not safe and are deluded, it is not safe for mental health workers to go it alone without police with weapons. They are needed with most 911 calls about mentally ill; if it's not a life-threatening emergency, they shouldn't be calling 911 anyways, whether black, white or any other color skin:

And as far as I am concerned, unarmed civilians trying to stop violence shouldn't be out on violent neighborhood streets at night unless they are interested in being martyrs. It's basically criminal accessory type stuff to even be suggesting such things.

All the mass hysteria of police hating has done in the end is that it has increased the numbers of deaths and maimings. More people get more guns and more people get killed and maimed (Er, ESPECIALLY YOUNG BLACK PEOPLE ~ did anyone from "Black Lives Matter" notice? Rather be dead or in a wheelchair than humiliated by a cop doing profiling? Okey doke, whatever, just don't blame "white supremacy" while you are waiting for that magical non-violent Wakanda place to appear.)

Jen makes Joe's position perfectly clear, that when BLM fundies chanted "fuck Joe Biden", Joe was really thinking "well, fuck BLM then":

Abolish or defund this kind of work, BLM? Really, you have no need for it? The "community" can take care of it themselves? 

LAS VEGAS POLICE STOP WRONG CAR STILL PULL GUNS AND HANDCUFF DRIVER

By rmrd0000 on Wed, 07/07/2021 - 4:31pm |

The police knew they had the wrong car and guy.

How to build trust in the community 

Police point guns at the man and tell to relax.

The footage, shot by an onlooker, has racked up more than 400,000 views since it was shared last week, as fellow TikTokers voiced their outrage at the police response.

“How many cops does it take to pull over the wrong car,” one joked dryly.

“Listen to their words and demeanor after knowing they have the wrong car. All should be fired,” said another.

A third said: “Again the reason why we don’t trust cops. They now know they’ve got the wrong car and still guns are pointed.”

And a fourth hit out at the officers’ “completely irresponsible” behaviour, saying: “I will respect the blue when the blue respects the citizens they are paid to serve.”

https://www.indy100.com/viral/police-cuff-wrong-driver-video-tiktok-b1878179

URL: 

https://www.indy100.com/viral/police-cuff-wrong-driver-video-tiktok-b187...

copied from individual post "In the News" section

speaking of Bernie and police on another thread, there is actually news on that front. Maureen Dowd sat down for an interview with Bernie for her column. The topic came up. Yglesisas pointed to it

and added this which is an excellent point on how focused Bernie's prorities have always been:

the whole Dowd column is highly recommended for getting across the Joe & Bernie partnership, what it is and what it isn't, especially economically

the following articles & tweets are evidence for the argument that the Chicago policing problem is not as much a policing problem but a prosecutor and judicial problem, which the police chief has been known to argue more than once and quite strenuously:

you see a lot of similar complaining about the San Francisco D.A., except more so

FBI apology re: Larry Nasser case after Inspector General report!

One thing I don't see helping this situation one bit:

Woke theology that promotes separatist culture and stereotypes via skin color!

Cops are being politically correct and woke by doing this, they are just using the stereotypes of the language preferred by different skin colors of people according to Woke separatism and anti-white-privilege. One presumes "dude" and "bro" is certainly more acceptable to white privilege system lingo of "sir" and "ma'am". Which even with white folks resonates with slave and/or servant era overtones.

Everybody should get the same lingo and treatment but if Woke keep stressing how different we are by skin color, that's not going to convince a single fucking cop, or any smart person working in a service profession, for that matter, to use the same lingo for everyone.

You want them to be color blind, promote color blindness in culture! Color blindness promotion seems to be very out of style with lefties as far as I can see, and I am in a cultural profession. I'd prefer color blindness was the in thing, but all I see lately is the exact opposite, especially from the left.

Body cam of rude white NYPD officer in Harlem bossing homies around, ordering them to do stuff like buy potato chips and packing tape for him at the bodega:

Actually I am posting it because it strongly reminds me of every encounter I have had with uniformed cops in NYC, produced a sort of clarity for me. It's like they are all like that: definitely not friendly, more like arrogant, like they are doing a job and don't need to be distracted by you.

Funded more transit police AND guess what?

Biden Legal Team Decides Inmates Must Return to Prison After Covid Emergency

Sorry, "abolish" fans, but I suspect the "Biden legal team" may have had a gander at stats showing repeat offenders responsible for a significant amount of the crime wave? And they'd like the Democratic party not to lose even more congressional seats and state houses in the mid-terms - 

There's this popular saying: Don't do the crime if you can't do the time. Believe it or not for the youngins, that comes from Sammy Davis Jr., who wrote the theme song for the detective tv show "Baretta"

right wing outlets like Gateway Pundit making lots of viral hay out of this videotape:

Can I just say the crowd had zero evidence of that cop harassing anyone,

they were just harassing him because of the color of his skin,

despite his black female partner

Can I just say: ISN'T THAT RACISM?

In addition, apparently they'd prefer to deal with gun violence amongst themselves without police being involved, i.e., a sort of vigilante set up, with lynch mobs for serious cases?

You can pretty much count me out of a brave new BLM world that looks and sounds like this. I'd throw my lot in with The Deplorables if forced to choose between the two. I'm not alone, I think lots of people with black skin aren't crazy about ghetto culture, either.

this one's for all those Boogaloos types out there who think there is no need for "cops", especially Federal ones:

NYPD doing a good job for us residents despite all the delusional bullshit they had to put up with (mostly from white elites, not minority residents) in 2020. I have read they made a big dent in 2020 numbers by really be tough on gangs and rounding them all up. That is a major part of the gun problem; whether they will be adequately prosecuted and let out on bail (unlike if they were from a Brighton Beach white eastern european immigrant gang, for example, who often the fed treatment) is another question.

BAD COPS HAPPEN (doh like in other professions like M.D. & C.P.A. etc.)

BUT THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY ALWAYS A RACIST THING (double doh!)

nor even a gender thing for that matter

Current headline story at LA Daily News: Chief says hospitalized LAPD worker credits COVID vaccine for saving his life

Los Angeles Police Chief Michel Moore added that 52 more employees tested positive for COVID-19 last week

also this link to related from 4 days ago

• ‘They’re worn out’: LAPD contends with hundreds of officer resignations, retirements after protests, pandemic break out

• Which I read together basically as FUCK YOU BLM SYMPATHIZERS ,THANKS FOR THE FISH, HOPE YOU GET SHOT AND DIE, see if those of us left give a shit you didn't give a shit when we worked through all of this while you stayed home...

Go ahead, let blacks kill blacks and get away with it! Who cares? Certainly not "BLM", just the opposite:

Criminal-Justice Reformers Chose the Wrong Slogan

“Defund the Police” is a disaster. Under-policing is a form of oppression too.

By Conor Friedersdorf @ TheAtlantic.com, Aug. 8

After george floyd’s murder, when sweeping criminal-justice reforms seemed more possible than ever, many Black Lives Matter activists and their allies settled on a rallying cry: “Defund the Police.”

That choice was a disaster. The slogan—shorthand for cutting spending on law enforcement and redirecting it toward social services, or, for more radical proponents, moving toward eventual police abolition—is a political liability, largely due to justified fears that, if implemented, it would lead to many more murders, assaults, and other violent crimes, disproportionately harming victims in America’s most marginalized communities. Yet even as the Democratic Party abandons the slogan, the activist left still clings to it, as if oblivious to its opportunity cost: Namely, the public is open to any number of potential improvements to American policing, but no politically viable reform is getting anywhere near the attention of “defunding.”

Before the public sours on criminal-justice reform more broadly—as it may amid rising fears about crime and disorder in cities—a new focus and rallying cry are needed. And given the spike in homicides that has afflicted the United States during the pandemic, disproportionately killing Black people, there’s an especially strong case for this overdue slogan: Solve All Murders. Precisely because Black lives matter, people who take Black lives shouldn’t get away with it.

The Murder Accountability Project, a nonprofit watchdog group that tracks unsolved murders, found in 2019 that “declining homicide clearance rates for African-American victims accounted for all of the nation’s alarming decline in law enforcement’s ability to clear murders through the arrest of criminal offenders.” In Chicago, the public-radio station WBEZ’s analysis of 19 months of murder-investigation records showed that “when the victim was white, 47% of the cases were solved … For Hispanics, the rate was about 33%. When the victim was African American, it was less than 22%.” Another study in Indianapolis found the same kind of disparities.

Eliminating such disparities ought to be a priority for all Americans, including anti-racist activists. But that’s unlikely so long as Black Lives Matter leaders and their allies focus on defunding the police.

Democrats aren’t merely distancing themselves from “defund the police”; they’re trying to associate Republicans with the slogan. Joe Biden’s pandemic-relief bill included funding for local police departments (among many other line items), and, as the 2022 midterms approach, Democrats are accusing GOP opponents of the bill of trying to “defund” law-enforcement agencies that the legislation supported. “And according to Democratic aides, the change in messaging is coming straight from the office of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi,” Akela Lacy reported last week in The Intercept. How did we get here?

Last summer, many progressives persuaded themselves that “defund the police” was not just a talking point that some radicals favored, but an attainable goal. “The movement to defund the police is gaining significant support across America, including from elected leaders,” The Guardian reported on June 4, 2020. “Government officials have long dismissed the idea as a leftist fantasy, but the recent unrest and massive budget shortfalls from the Covid-19 crisis appear to have inspired more mainstream recognition of the central arguments behind defunding.”

Within left-activist bubbles, criminal-justice-reform proposals that stopped short of defunding the police lost any credibility. By mid-June 2021, for example, the leaders of 8 Can’t Wait, a campaign to get police departments to reform their policies on when and how to use force, felt obliged to apologize for focusing on lifesaving reforms rather than defunding. “We’ve seen dozens of cities adopt the goals of #8CANTWAIT, policies that can reduce the harm caused by police in the short-term,” a statement on their website declared.  “And while we are proud of the impact we were able to make, we at Campaign Zero acknowledge that, even with the best of intentions, the #8CANTWAIT campaign unintentionally detracted from efforts of fellow organizers invested in paradigmatic shifts that are newly possible in this moment. For this we apologize wholeheartedly, and without reservation.”

In fact, “defund” was the problem, because the mainstream still regarded defunding the police as a leftist fantasy. And that fantasy appeared to hurt Democrats in the 2020 election. “In the summer, following the emergence of ‘defund the police’ as a nationally salient issue, support for Biden among Hispanic voters declined,” the data scientist David Shor argued in an interview with New York earlier this year. “So I think you can tell this microstory: We raised the salience of an ideologically charged issue that millions of nonwhite voters disagreed with us on. And then, as a result, these conservative Hispanic voters who’d been voting for us despite their ideological inclinations started voting more like conservative whites.”

[.....]

whole promoted Twitter section:

https://twitter.com/i/events/1424896193046384640

August 9, 2021

Camden, New Jersey is hailed as a model for police reform, but its community is still skeptical. What do you need to keep your community safe?

Plagued with internal corruption, spiking crime rates, and overspending, Camden, New Jersey, rebuilt its police department over a decade ago by installing over 200 cameras and 70 microphones placed around the city. But, the community remains skeptical on its effectiveness. There have been efforts to pass police reform, but little progress has been made. We want to hear from communities of color: What would an ideal version of public safety look like to you?

Now here's an excellent example of a real genuine "agitator" anarchist type who takes advantage of mob-like anger to turn something like BLM PROTESTS OR JAN. 6 TYPE PROTESTS into something real bad. Inciting the mob just because he likes inciting a mob! He may or may not have ideological beliefs inspiring him to be on one side or another OR he may also just like the excitement of looting and arson. What does it matter. Part of his tool kit is: AN ANGRY MOB. Can't have the real kind of fun he likes without one.

THIS IS WHY IT'S IMPORTANT TO POLICE PROTESTS TO KEEP THEM FROM BECOMING ANGRY MOBS.

It's one thing passionate protesters don't seem to get, they have this simplistic idea that cops just hate them and want to mean to them. NO THEY WANT TO PREVENT MOBS FROM FORMING in which case guys like Matthew hear will know how to take advantage.

I remember more than one person here criticizing me for bringing up BLM riots when Jan, 6 was happening. I see people like Matthew here not having much loyality to cause, he could be a Proud Boy storming the Capitol one year and the next year agitating looting burning and rioting with angry BLM protesters the next. The anarchist actions are what excites him, not the cause. And he'll travel to get in on it. And he's not even a elite woke type, NOR IS HE A PHONY OUTSIDE AGITATOR from 'the other side", he just likes some action and makes himself acquainted with those who might provide it. It's all just about a temporary sense of power like Robert Duval line "I love the smell of napalm in the morning". It's not about the original cause.

And when it's a mob it doesn't fucking matter any more what the ideology is, it's just a fucking mob. I don't get how others don't see that: a riot is a riot is a riot is a riot. Once it's a riot, that's all it is. So those who intially might be opposites end up very much alike.

found retweeted by Peter Moskos:

WHOA

This is NOT the way the whole rule of law thing is supposed to work!

Othal Wallace is now going to be facing 1st degree murder for the death of Officer Raynal in Daytona who did nothing to warrant being shot:

a reminder that the manhunt for Wallace ended in find him in a treehouse on the property associated with an organization called NFAC. The acronym stands for the "Not F------ Around Coalition," a self-described militia composed exclusively of Black members.

In the UK they are trying out this alternative to defund police and fund social workers instead 

a mace-laden street brawl between ideological foes

(found retweeted by JJ MacNab)