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An Awkward Kiss Changed How I Saw Joe Biden
By tmccarthy0 on Fri, 03/29/2019 - 5:38pm |I’m pretty sure this has only just begun for Joe Biden.
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Memoli also tweeted this
and retweeted this
by artappraiser on Fri, 03/29/2019 - 7:41pm
The comments in the first one...
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 03/29/2019 - 8:41pm
Nothing in this account surprised me. Biden has always been very touchy and it always looked inappropriate to me. It's been in the news for years and numerous pundits have commented on it. The only surprise is that it took so long for it to become an issue.
by ocean-kat on Fri, 03/29/2019 - 7:44pm
A comment on Joe Biden that pointed out his problem running for a 2020 Presidency.
From Booman Tribune
http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2019/3/27/17721/6346
This is what Joe Biden said about the Anita Hill hearing
https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/27/politics/joe-biden-anita-hill-2020/index.html
It’s like he had no role at the hearing
by rmrd0000 on Sat, 03/30/2019 - 12:04am
This type of touching is normal in political circles and the chicks love it.
by ocean-kat on Sat, 03/30/2019 - 2:06am
Really get a kick out of Richard Painter on stuff like this in particular (if you've seen the way he talks on TV, you'll get why):
by artappraiser on Sun, 03/31/2019 - 6:42pm
by artappraiser on Sun, 03/31/2019 - 10:50pm
When dealing with colleagues and people who are not friends or even friendly acquaintances if the touches and kisses you bestow on the women and girls aren't touches and kisses you'd bestow on men and boys that's a clear enough message those touches and kisses are inappropriate.
by ocean-kat on Sun, 03/31/2019 - 11:31pm
It seems like you are needed out there to teach other guys this rocket science you have learned and they haven't.
by artappraiser on Sun, 03/31/2019 - 11:36pm
And furthermore, Mimi is needed to teach other women the rocket science about when inappropriate behavior has intent to harass and demean and when it is just an inappropriate gaff.
Edit to add: For example of inappropriate non-sexual gaff, see your excellent GW Bush and Angela Merkl vid upthread. Or many other things GW inappropriate including all the frigging nicknames he used for colleagues.
For actual blatant intent to harass and demean nearly everyone and everything, see troll narcissist Donald Trump for yuge number of examples every day....
GW modus operandi is actually interesting to think about, as if everybody was his fraternity bro.! Because it is very non-sexual. In that way, it's a method of manipulation of people like a salesman does, an attempt to drag everyone down to a casual, inter-personal, laid back relationship. The schmoozer. Can be very frustrating if it's happening to you. But it's not harassment.
With Joe on the other hand, there is admittedly a little bit of sexuality involved there. For manipulation rather than harassment purposes. He just wants people to like him, he tries to manipulate that way. Like you implied, he approaches women differently. He's no doubt manipulating all sexes, just does it in different ways and with women, it's ye old put em on a pedestal thing, they're beautiful creatures, etc.
by artappraiser on Sun, 03/31/2019 - 11:52pm
That's how I see it too. I'd guess that for all Biden's touches and kisses he's probably never grabbed anyone by the ass or even patted their butt. Still inappropriate and I'd bet most of the women felt that way.
eta: Ash Carter's wife says she's good friends with Biden and his hands on her shoulders were supportive. Maybe it's all over blown but I doubt that most of the women felt that way. This is going to blow up and many of the women we see in the photos will be questioned so I guess we'll find out.
by ocean-kat on Mon, 04/01/2019 - 1:45am
Jesus, really? At least here in Europe, 2 cheek/air kisses are de-rigeur if you know a woman slightly well, had a good evening out with friends, haven't seen in a while, etc. - otherwise you come across as cold and unfriendly. If it's a business environment you're a bit more reserved.
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 04/01/2019 - 2:29am
I've seen that. I haven't been to Europe but it seems to be a rather formalized ritual to me. Have you seen the videos of Biden? That looks very different to me. But I am the type of person who doesn't like to touch strangers. I don't even like shaking hands. I barely tolerate friends who hug everyone, and me. So maybe I'm totally wrong about this.
by ocean-kat on Mon, 04/01/2019 - 2:36am
Yes, the hands on the shoulders from behind for one is creepy with someone you don't know,
and I don't do kisses with girls <18 (or older - use my judgment of who seems in the space to find it unappreciated/weird), and even Biden's hand around Di Langoria's (sp?) higher up from waist/near breast seemed a bit too familiar.
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 04/01/2019 - 3:07am
different strokes for different folks, at least we don't send em for lashes:
by artappraiser on Mon, 04/01/2019 - 3:07am
Yeah, it's tough to codify when it's time to grab their ass. Just kiddin'.
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 04/01/2019 - 3:10am
Ash Carter's wife refutes meme from her picture:
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/31/joe-biden-stephanie-carter-124...
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 04/01/2019 - 5:39am
Found because retweeted by Maggie Haberman:
by artappraiser on Mon, 04/01/2019 - 7:43pm
Nate Silver's opinion on the damage to electoral potential:
by artappraiser on Mon, 04/01/2019 - 7:56pm
Meghan McCain on Monday jumped to defend Joe Biden — who has been accused by two women of inappropriate touching. McCain called the rumored 2020 presidential hopeful “one of the truly decent and compassionate men in all of American politics.” [....] ~ NY Post April 1
by artappraiser on Tue, 04/02/2019 - 7:30pm
by artappraiser on Wed, 04/03/2019 - 10:28pm