MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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I love this one. But there are some Wellesley women who prefer Clinton. Their reason - she's a woman - according to the Post.
Comments
Wow, liberal college students support Bernie. Shocking! Also, I heard that some Princeton students don't plan to vote for Ted Cruz, even though he graduated from there. Can you believe it?
by Michael Wolraich on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 10:09am
Snarky/silly reply duly noted. Seriously Mike, the Bernie backers give specific reasons based on policy. Why doesn't that strike you as persuasive evidence that he's better?
by HSG on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 10:15am
SeriousIy Hal, I never said that he wasn't better. Quite the contrary. But that has nothing to with the earth shattering revelation that Wellesley has Bernie supporters.
by Michael Wolraich on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 10:23am
They explain their rationale. They should be heard. Maybe the news isn't earth-shattering but it is important.
by HSG on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 10:32am
Why should they be heard? Millions of people are clamoring to tell the world why they support whichever candidate they support. Such videos are all over youtube. What makes this one special? It's nothing we haven't heard before. Nor is it noteworthy for students to support someone who is not an alumnus. And despite the reporter's claim that the video "is starting to get some play online," it has only 5000 views--even after the Washington Post (and dagblog) blogged it. So what exactly makes this "news" important?
by Michael Wolraich on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 11:00am
They exemplify the same cohort as the 84% of under 30 Iowans who supported Bernie and they provide a cogent and compelling argument. Would you agree that the support Wellesley students offer Bernie coupled Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein's fear that Sanders' candidacy is a dangerous moment together make a compelling case for Bernie?
by HSG on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 12:16pm
No
by Michael Wolraich on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 12:23pm
Why not? Is it your view that what Wellesley students think will be best for America is less persuasive than what the CEO of Goldman Sachs claims is dangerous? Why would you have that view? Isn't the evidence overwhelming that what's best for Goldman Sachs is often if not usually bad for many Americans?
In the 1900s did J.P. Morgan's perception of what was best align with the perceptions of most Americans? What about John D. Rockefeller? How about Andrew Mellon? Were these billionaires a font of good advice for ordinary Americans?
If the answer is no, how does Lloyd Blankfein differ from them?
by HSG on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 12:34pm
Of course, Brankfein doesn't like Sanders. He thinks Donald Trump is dangerous too. It doesn't follow that Trump would be a good president.
And seriously, do you really give a shit what a few Wellesley students think? Would you care what they thought if they supported Clinton?
by Michael Wolraich on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 1:03pm
The fact that Blankfein doesn't like Trump is a very small point in Trump's favor. I do care what the Wellesley students think and if they supported Hillary and defended that support with cogent arguments, I would consider their arguments as a reason to revise my views. Indeed, I was curious what arguments the two women who support Hillary would raise. I was disappointed that, at least in the Post's telling, they only cited gender.
by HSG on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 1:07pm
Just to close this loop and as I noted elsewhere I am always interested in the opinions of well-informed people who disagree with me. Perhaps I'm wrong. Regarding Blankfein and Trump, if Blankfein really fears Trump, I would consider that to be a very small point in Trump's favor.
by HSG on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 4:33pm
If you're interested, why don't you read the links and texts I post?
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 4:38pm
Oh, Hal. Really?
by Ramona on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 10:32am
Is her sex alone a good enough reason Ramona? It's not for the Wellesley students who made the video. It's not for Nation editor Katrina van den Heuvel. It's certainly not for my wife who insists, despite my disagreement, that voters shouldn't even consider Hillary's sex. Apparently, sisterhood is a good enough reason for Joan Walsh. I guess we all have to decide for ourselves what matters most.
by HSG on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 11:04am
Ah, now I see why you posted it. It's a "see, look, women who' don't support Hillary" moment. Like if Howard University students had come out with an anti-Obama video. That would have been all over conservative media in a flash. Back in the day, the right used to make the same condescending, reductionist remarks about Obama--that people only supported him because he was black. But it was all bullshit.
And this, too, is bullshit. (Not to mention counterproductive. At this time, I still plan to vote for Sanders, but the gender-baiting whacks against Clinton from Sanders' supporters is seriously turning me off.)
by Michael Wolraich on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 11:16am
Nice try Michael. I know it's important to you to see good (and bad) in both candidates and supporters of both candidates. Fact is one candidate is clearly superior and the arguments raised by the other one's supporters don't add up or are largely based on group identity politics. Read Walsh if you disagree. Even attacking BernieBros as sexist is a ploy to generate support with destructive group identity politics.
by HSG on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 11:43am
No, it's important to me to recognize why intelligent people see good (or bad) in a candidate. Because if I dismiss people on the other side as fools or tribalists or bigots or dupes, then I am the fool. And if I think that dismissing people on the other side as fools or tribalists or bigots or dupes will persuade them to support my candidate, then I am doubly the fool.
by Michael Wolraich on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 11:58am
Michael - I agree with you 100% here. I think it's very important to try to understand why intelligent people (and less intelligent people for that matter) support certain candidates. I have tried repeatedly to understand why articulate, persuasive, and caring people like PP, Oxy, Barefooted, TMac, and Ramona (and millions of others) feel so strongly that Hillary should be our next President. I read (most of the time) their posts carefully trying to glean compelling arguments. I haven't found them except for the fact that she is a woman which is a point in her favor as far as I'm concerned just not nearly a big enough one. I'll give her guns too.
I would also say that I don't believe that my views are accorded nearly the same respect by the individuals I noted above. I have repeatedly set forth detailed arguments citing to reliable sources precisely why I believe Hillary Clinton is not the best candidate and is in fact a deeply flawed one. My fact-based arguments are invariably mocked, dismissed, or misrepresented. Perhaps we should try to understand why that is.
by HSG on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 12:26pm
Of course you don't find the arguments for Hillary compelling. If you did, you wouldn't be a Sanders supporter. But the fact that you aren't convinced by those arguments does not mean that their proponents are being disingenuous or that they really only support Hillary because she's a woman. I don't find many of your arguments compelling, but that doesn't lead me to conclude that you oppose Hillary because you're misogynist. I trust that you sincerely believe she would be a terrible president. I just don't happen to agree with you.
PS I have also criticized stereotyping and demonization of Sanders' supporters, and I don't doubt that you have been a target, but two wrongs...
by Michael Wolraich on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 12:51pm
Really? You don't find many of my arguments compelling. Which ones and why not? Regarding arguments in favor of Clinton, what are they? Seriously, what are they? I keep looking and looking and I ain't finding. I have never said she'd be a terrible President by the way. I do believe that she would not be nearly as good a President as Bernie.
by HSG on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 2:38pm
Lather, rinse, repeat. If you ignored them the first 12 or 27 times, why wouldn't you the next? This ain't Charlie Brown football. Or maybe it is. Peppermint Patty and Schroeder and Neurotic Linus and bitchy Lucy... Real poor character analysis in the guise of something intellectual, like Beethoven played on a toy piano.
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 2:43pm
As I have noted elsewhere, I don't mock or dismiss other people's arguments here. I do often take issue with them but I treat them seriously.
by HSG on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 4:32pm
No, her sex is not good enough. That would be stupid. Nobody has said that, including Joan Walsh.
I'm going to try to be nice about this: Hillary will get over the fact that Wellesley students are supporting someone else. She won't call them out about it because they happen to be females, too. And neither will I. Read again what Michael said. It's election time. It happens.
by Ramona on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 11:49am
The vast bulk of Walsh's 5-page+ endorsement focused on Hillary's gender and the alleged sexism of some of Sanders supporters along with Sanders' "tin-ear" when it comes to gender matters - e.g., he talks about increasing family leave available to mothers not fathers. Walsh admitted that she is troubled by important aspects of Clinton's campaign, especially her support for wars and her speeches to Goldman Sachs. For Walsh, it's clear it boils down to sex. Her final two paragraphs:
Compare and contrast that with Van Den Heuvel who in less than a page notes Sanders is better on Wall Street, militarism, healthcare, and getting big money out of politics and explains why Bernie is the candidate who really can bring about positive change.
by HSG on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 12:13pm
I love what Joan Walsh said there! Especially that last part: We won't be erased.
Now, about that alleged sexism of some of Sanders' supporters. . .
by Ramona on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 12:19pm
Exactly! What is foremost in Walsh's mind is to prevent the woman from being erased, i.e., to see her elected, regardless of whether she's the best candidate or even best for women? Don't you see why that's a problem? That attitude stands in the way of questioning the candidate's commitment to economic and environmental justice for all Americans.
by HSG on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 12:37pm
Hal. Come on. Your sexism is showing and it's not pretty. There is no progressive woman on this earth who would vote for a woman simply because she's a woman. But because we believe Hillary is supremely qualified to be president, we're joyful about the prospects of having a woman in the White House. For all the reasons noted.
I wonder if you realize that the majority of your posts are attempts to pit women against women? You need to look at that. Seriously.
by Ramona on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 12:55pm
I certainly agree that my posts are intended to pit lots of women (and men) against one particular woman and in support of one particular man. I reject the charge that sexism informs my choice of Bernie over Hillary or that it affects my arguments. Indeed, one of the reasons I support Bernie is because I believe that Bernie will do much more to help poor Americans who are disproportionately women.
by HSG on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 1:03pm
You have a right to support Bernie. Go for it. You don't have a right to work on the women here at Dagblog who support Hillary by accusing us of supporting her simply because she's a woman. Which you have done over and over again. It's insulting and demeaning and sexist. There is no way to defend it anymore. The best you can do is stop it.
by Ramona on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 1:14pm
It's the woman in her that brings out the inner woman in me. I guess.
In any case, I'm pragmatic and saw Robert Byrd playing a prick to universal Healthcare in 1993 and Bill Bradley being the liberal scold to AL Gore in 2000 and all the hope and change that sunk the pragmatic Hillary in 2008 that wasn't so hopey and changey in the end, and this time they simply can eat my shorts. I would vote for Hillary if she were a man, but the gender issues is a definite plus. Actually if she were a man she probably wouldn't multitask and be serious while the dudes are guffawing in the corner nor be so prepared.
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 2:30pm
I have never once made the accusation that the only reason you support Hillary is because she is a woman. I am trying to understand your reasons. Gender stands out like a big sore thumb.
by HSG on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 2:30pm
No, you're not trying to understand my reasons. You're too busy trying to debunk my reasons. My full time job doesn't involve making sure you understand why I'm supporting Hillary Clinton. Sooner or later you'll have to come to terms with the fact that you weren't able to convince me otherwise. I hope it's sooner rather than later. For your sake.
by Ramona on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 2:39pm
I know this won't help, but here is another view from a progressive woman who admires Hillary. Connie Schultz's husband, Sherrod Brown, is also supporting Hillary, even though they're both friends with Bernie. Their support for Hillary is not an attack on Bernie. Far from it.
by Ramona on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 12:14pm
Beautiful words but where's the evidence that Hillary Clinton is prepared to challenge the power structure.
by HSG on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 12:27pm
Oh, did Connie fall short? She didn't address everything you would have wanted? Bad girl!
The evidence is broad and wide, but if you're looking for pure concentration try the 11-hour Benghazi marathon. If you can watch that and still ask that question, I really can't help you.
by Ramona on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 12:43pm
Connie Schultz defends Clinton from the charge that she is unwilling "to challenge [the] power structure". The Benghazi hearings don't provide evidence that she is prepared to take on the power structure. I do agree that Clinton has done so on occasion. But, in direct contrast to Bernie's record, Clinton's more often than not reflects acquiescence to the rich and influential and the policies she supports or is unwilling to challenge have led to increased concentration of wealth and economic injustice. That's what the Neocon/Neolib apology illustrates and that's why the Nation and the Wellesley students and countless others support Bernie.
by HSG on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 1:03pm
How do you explain the countless others--the majority of them progressives--who support Hillary?
by Ramona on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 1:08pm
I don't know that the majority of Hillary's support comes from progressives. In partial answer to your question:
Hillary's white supporters:
1) Are more conservative than Bernie's. 2) Are richer than Bernie's. 3) Are older than Bernie's. 3) Have done better than average under the corporadem policies of Clinton and Obama and are afraid that their advantages would be lost under a Sanders Presidency. 4) Are less concerned than Sanders supporters about losing their jobs, falling social security payouts and future healthcare and college expenses. 5) Aren't fully cognizant of how close she is to corporate America and how mutually beneficial that relationship has been. 6) Are genuinely excited about the prospect of electing a woman President.
Hillary's supporters of color:
1) Are somewhat mistrustful of a white Senator from a very white state. 2) Have mostly fond memories of Bill Clinton's Presidency. 3) View Hillary as the logical successor to President Obama since she served in his cabinet. 4) Fear Bernie's populist plan to reduce economic injustice will benefit poor whites more than it will benefit them 5) Are suspicious of the fact that Bernie has a disproportionate amount of support from the poor and working-class white Democratic vote since poor and working-class whites are more likely (I think) to be overtly racist. 6) Aren't fully cognizant of how close she is to corporate America and how mutually beneficial that relationship has been. 7) Are genuinely excited about the prospect of electing a woman President.
by HSG on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 2:26pm
Some real stupid points in there, Hal. Won't bother to elaborate why - you're a big boy, you know when you peed the rug on purpose.
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 2:33pm
You have come to the realization that Bernie Sanders is running an anti-Obama campaign. Cornel West detests Obama and Sanders gives West a front row seat at rallies. West says Obama is Wall Street's "boy". Why would blacks vote for a guy like Sanders? If Sanders has so much cred for Civil Rights activity, where are all the black leaders supporting him? We have a rapper who called Obama a "house slave", then smoked some dope, and decided to support Sanders. We have Cornel West who was upset about not getting Inauguration tickets. Bill Clinton got support from folks like Vernon Jordan. Sanders couldn't find time to talk to Ta-Nehisi Coates. If Sanders is running as the anti-Obama candidate, he can expect pushback from the older black voter.
Sanders may make inroads with young black voters, but your post above is a good way to throw support to Hillary.
by rmrd0000 on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 2:45pm
"Why would blacks vote for a guy like Sanders? If Sanders has so much cred for Civil Rights activity, where are all the black leaders supporting him?"
Ben Jealous count? http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/04/politics/bernie-sanders-ben-jealous-endors...
by HSG on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 2:54pm
Ben Jealous, Cornel West, Keith Ellison, and Nina Turner all are decreased in stature when compared with the anti-Obama campaign being run by Bernie. Barack Obama "trumps" them all.
Sanders positions himself as the true Progressive. He says that you can't be a moderate and a Progressive. Sanders will fight the good fight. Rational people realize that he is talking about a 10-20 battle given the reality of our current Congress and electorate. There is an audience for his viewpoint. Eddie S.Glaude Jr. has written "Democracy in Black: How Race Still Enslaves the American Soul" noting how Obama failed to fulfill Progressive goals. Tavis Smiley's "The Covenant with Black America - Ten Years Later" notes the problem still facing black America. Obama has left much work to do.
One problem in both books is the lack of emphasis on the unparalleled obstruction that came from the wingnuts who promised to make Obama "a one-term President". Glaude appeared on CSPAN this weekend. He was questioned about the lack of focus on the wingnuts given the constant focus on Obama's failures. Glaude said that he wasn't laying the problem at the feet of Obama. The interviewer Marc Marial, former head of the Urban League told Glaude that perhaps that aspect of events can be covered in Glaude's next book.
There is opposition to everything Sanders wants to do. He offers no concrete plan. Many people feel that Hillary is simply more geared for the fight than Bernie. If Bernie wants to be the anti-Obama, he better bring something better than a wish sandwich.
BTW, Ben Jealous was the guy heading the NAACP when the organization threw Shirley Sherrod under the bus.
by rmrd0000 on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 4:33pm
Wasn't it Obama or at least a very high level official in his administration who threw Sherrod under the bus? https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/e-mail-points-to-white-house-inv...
by HSG on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 4:36pm
You took the bait. Obama is viewed positively by black voters. Shirley Sherrod was an admitted mistake. The NAACP is known for criticizing Sherrod, for being meek when it came to the Confederate flag, and coming in second to other activists on murders of black citizens by police. Ben Jealous's endorsement will have little impact on most black voters.
Sanders is running as the anti-Obama, a losing strategy.
by rmrd0000 on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 5:03pm
Boy do I feel stupid now. Let me get this straight since I'm obviously not sharp enough to step over your traps. 1) Cornel West is too radical and doesn't get how great Obama is for getting some things done despite having to deal with a right-wing Congress. 2) Ben Jealous and the NAACP are too meek and don't fight hard enough for black folks including Sherrod so Jealous's endorsement of Sanders can be disregarded. 3) On the other hand, Obama's approval of the Sherrod dismissal was a forgivable error. 4) Black Lives Matter (I assume) is the activist group that is ahead of the NAACP when it comes to protesting police murders of blacks.
Help me with something here: I think you're saying that BLM is better than Ben Jealous who endorsed Sanders. But BLM activist Shaun King has endorsed Sanders as has Erica Garner, Eric Garner's daughter, who is also a BLM activist. Also BLM offshoot Campaign Zero rates Sanders as better than Clinton. So what's going on here. The meek NAACP ex-Prez Jealous endorses Sanders but so do more active and assertive BLM activists. Too radical anti-Obama Cornel West endorses Sanders but a member of a more mainstream group does too. It is a little confusing but I think I get it. They all support Sanders!
by HSG on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 5:21pm
Yep, you got it. Sanders runs as the anti-Obama and gets steamrollered by black voters pulling the lever for Hillary. The black Sanders supporters go down the voting drain with Sanders. It is called solvent drag. We will see if I am correct when we get to South Carolina.
by rmrd0000 on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 6:19pm
I'm sorry. All I can do is laugh. That is just--I'm sorry--pathetic.
by Ramona on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 2:43pm
Ramona - No matter what you write and no matter how much I disagree with it, I never mock or insult you or your writing and the same goes for PP.
by HSG on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 2:56pm
Oddly enough, I feel insulted. Can't imagine why.
by Ramona on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 3:17pm
Ramona - I am very sorry that you took what I wrote as a personal insult. I certainly did not intend it as such. You asked me to explain why Hillary has as much support as she does and I tried to answer as well as I could. I note that I do not claim that every Clinton supporter falls into every one of the categories or even into any one of the categories. I do apologize for any misunderstanding there.
In fact, I fall into most of those categories. I do not think saying somebody is in one or more of the categories is in itself pejorative either. Do you really believe implying you may fall into some of these general categories is anywhere near as insulting as your calling me or my comment "pathetic"?
by HSG on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 5:23pm
I appreciate the apology, Hal. Thank you. What made what you wrote "pathetic" was the sureness of it. There were no grey areas, no maybe. Just--this is who Hillary supporters are.
You might need to think about your audience before you try to engage us. That way we might not feel the need to take what you say personally.
by Ramona on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 5:05pm
R - I will bear this in mind going forward and try to be more mindful of my audience's sensibilities here and elsewhere. Thanks.
by HSG on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 5:24pm
We're not little pansies--you may have noticed--so it has nothing to do with sensibilities, it has to do with knowing when to quit. But that works both ways. If I don't respond to your questions about Hillary, please don't take it personally. Thanks.
by Ramona on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 5:38pm
In November 2015, there were 275 Wellesley supporters of Bernie Sanders on their Facebook webpage. There were 815 Wellesley supporters for Hillary Clinton on their webpage
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/bernie-sanders-wellesley-hillary-c...
Currently on Facebook there are two groups at Wellesley supporting Hillary one has over 450 members, the other has over 800 members. I see one Bernie group at Wellesley with 281 members. The women of Wellesley have spoken!
by rmrd0000 on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 2:18pm
This is very interesting RMRD. I'd love to hear the specific arguments offered in support of Hillary by Wellesley Students for Hillary. The other group includes alumnae as well as current students I believe.
by HSG on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 2:50pm
No you wouldn't be interested at all. Just as you're not interested in the arguments offered here in support of Hillary. Several people here as well as Krugman have explained why they think Hillary's plan to reign in Wall Street is more comprehensive than Sanders plan to enact a new Glass Steagall. I don't have a problem with you not finding those arguments compelling, I don't find your arguments compelling either. There is disagreement on the issue even among the top progressive economists. But you consistently pretend they never even occurred. The same could be said about our discussions here about their health care proposals.
by ocean-kat on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 3:01pm
I agree there's a dispute among serious people. But we know that with Glass-Steagall in place we didn't have a massive bank crisis for 65 years and then we did shortly after it was repealed. I also posit that Clinton is so tainted by the enormous sums of money showered upon her by those who have the most to lose by re-instituting Glass-Steagall that she cannot be trusted to act in the people's best interest when it comes to this issue.
I am absolutely interested in the opinions of people who disagree with me and unless there is proof that they are wrong I take their assertions seriously. I don't take the assertions of anthropogenic global warming deniers seriously since it has been proven that they are wrong.
Even though you ultimately are not convinced, do you take seriously the opinions of those who believe that repealing Glass-Steagall was a serious mistake and that if this had not occurred, we probably would not have had a serious financial meltdown in 2008? Or, do you read their arguments with the intention/hope of finding holes in them because your chosen candidate doesn't support a new Glass-Steagall?
by HSG on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 3:08pm
Of course I read and take seriously the opinions from all sides. I've been reading Krugman and Reich before Obama was elected. I've read their arguments over the issue and before this election began formed my opinion. When even Elizabeth Warren admits that Glass Steagall wouldn't have stopped the 08 crash that's a significant admission. When many liberals that support re-enactment call the re-enactment of Glass Streagall a symbolic issue that's significant.
We're not going to agree on Glass Steagall, just as Krugman and Reich aren't going to agree. My problem with you is you pretend the debate never even occurred. For example you posted, "Is her sex alone a good enough reason Ramona?" The arguments we raised go way beyond gender but you keep pretending the arguments don't exist and it's all about electing a women.
by ocean-kat on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 3:24pm
I did not question whether being a woman is enough because I believe that is your or Ramona's position. I questioned whether being a woman is enough because: 1) The pro-Hillary Wellesley students explained their support to the Washington Post by saying they were excited at the prospect of a woman President. 2) Joan Walsh's endorsement in the Nation focuses almost entirely on Clinton's sex and the alleged sexism of Sanders and his supporters. To the extent she addresses other issues, she admits that there are legitimate concerns about Hillary's connections to Wall Street and her pro-war votes. 3) Emily's List has three criteria for endorsing and supporting candidates: 1) They're women. 2) They're Democrats. 3) They're pro-choice.
Regarding the reinstatement of Glass-Steagall, you argue here and elsewhere that Elizabeth Warren has "admitted" it wouldn't have stopped 2008 crash. While she may have admitted that at one point, she still strongly supports reinstatement and has made several statements that indicate she believes it likely would have prevented the meltdown. In any event, the case for reinstatement does not rest solely on the argument that it would have prevented the financial crisis in 2008.
A few of Elizabeth Warren's statements on the repeal of and reinstating Glass-Steagall:
1) "That high wall between high-risk trading and boring banking was punched full of holes until in the late 1990s, it was knocked down when Glass-Steagall was eventually repealed," she said. "And not long after that, the worst crash since the 1930s hit the American economy." 7/13/15
2) "The new Glass-Steagall Act would would reduce failures of the big banks by making banking boring, protecting deposits, and providing stability to the system even in bad times. And it would reduce 'too big' by dismantling the behemoths, so that big banks would still be big—but not too big to fail or, for that matter, too big to manage, too big to regulate, too big for trial, or too big for jail." 11/12/13
Wall Street's risky bets nearly brought the economy to its knees in 2008, but instead of taking responsibility, Wall Street lobbied to water down the Dodd-Frank financial reforms of 2010 and fought to weaken the reforms Congress passed.
By making banks smaller, a new Glass-Steagall could also help put an end to banks that are 'too big to fail' -- further avoiding costly taxpayer bailouts[.]" 5/4/12
by HSG on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 5:07pm
I questioned whether being a woman is enough because: 1) The pro-Hillary Wellesley students explained their support to the Washington Post by saying they were excited at the prospect of a woman President
I'm also excited at the prospect of a woman president. Just as I was excited about the prospect of a black president. But your question to ramona wasn't if she was excited but, ""Is her sex alone a good enough reason Ramona?"
How many of those Wellesley students who are excited at the prospect of a women president stated that it was "alone a good enough" reason they supported Hillary? How many stated it was the main reason?
That gender alone is the reason is your strawman and it insults Hillary's supporters. Race and gender only affect votes at the margins. After policy positions are met they may be a factor. Blacks weren't excited to vote for Herman Cain and women weren't excited to vote for Michelle Bachman. Policy is still the main reason for a person's vote.
by ocean-kat on Thu, 02/04/2016 - 5:28pm