MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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Blacks cannot stop being black. White hearts have to change.
by rmrd0000 on Mon, 09/17/2018 - 8:51am
Aaarrggh, you are a 1-trick pony, aren't you. (American) black hearts and responses can change too. UK doesn't have US level of black-on-black murder rates, does it? How many centuries do we get to excuae away that shit?
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 09/17/2018 - 9:16am
Race was the major factor in 2016 election.
Black teen pregnancy is decreasing
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2016/p0428-teen-birth-rates.html
Homicide rates are falling, even in Chicago
https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/chicago-murders-homicides-2017-steep-decline/
No one is ignoring pathology in black neighborhoods
White pathology and black pathology can be attacked simultaneously
by rmrd0000 on Mon, 09/17/2018 - 9:25am
I don't want police statistics spouted at me - what do *you* think can be done to make 3500 shootings per year per urban area *go the fuck away* after decades. What is wrong with people and how to fix it? Sure, it's better than Brazil, but nowhere in Europe does this kind of shooting and killing happen, and some live on $80 a month. If I see white people abusing or killing blacks, I don't say "oh, they feel aggrieved and threatened" - I say, "why them sons-of-bitches..." how come there's *0* out of you on this criminality that feeds the stereotypes and talks about the poverty based on what people can do? Will we still be discussing the same goddam issues in the same way in 40 years like we were in the 70's? Pathetic.
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 09/17/2018 - 9:47am
Crime and teen pregnancy tends to be highest in high poverty areas. Schools in those areas also tend to be substandard.Education is going to be key. The problem is that in the midst of automation, what are you trying students to do. There is no magic wand. If you are poor, you are screwed. Increasingly, if you are middle class you are screwed.
The statistics are important because if homicides, drug use, and teen pregnancies are decreasing, we can try to find out what is driving the decrease and try to promote those factors. Something is being missed.
Note: Crime in the black community is not a reason to ignore racially biased voting in the white community..
by rmrd0000 on Mon, 09/17/2018 - 10:14am
I said murder. Teen pregnancy will be worse as long as the community says "yay, you go girl" - single parenting is tough on resources.Education, people can augment with the internet and libraries, etc. There's more knowledge with a smart phone than existed to undergrad level 30 years ago. Who's following LeBron? If jackasses like Kanye would put their money towards useful stuff, 10 years would look a lot different.
Fuck voting for the moment - Ari Onassis showed up in Buenos Aires a war pauper with about $5 to his name. Elon Musk got to Toronto with $2000. Even if the government did 0, is the community just going to accept that as the future? Seriously tired of all the identity whining at the moment, more energy into hairstyles than basic survival and security and other hygiene (Maslow) factors - wherr's the "I don't give a fuck, I'm going to make it work" attitude, rather than "oh, too tough, gotta join a gang" or other limited horizons.
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 09/17/2018 - 11:36am
Ari Onassis showed up in Buenos Aires a war pauper with about $5 to his name. Elon Musk got to Toronto with $2000
Left the tribe.
limited horizons?
Best bet: leave the tribe. No car? Save up from a few gigs to get on a damn Greyhound bus. Goes for those in Appalachia just as much as those in Ferguson, MO.
by artappraiser on Mon, 09/17/2018 - 11:54am
Or those in cheez whiz country or the deep south, eh? Leaving that Schlitz/Dixie Beer behind.. now more cow tippin', packed up their bags and moved to
Bever... somewhere.by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 09/17/2018 - 12:40pm
exactly. can't keep em down on the farm once they've seen Paree. And then after they've seen Paree, they demand the G.I. bill, go figure.
by artappraiser on Mon, 09/17/2018 - 12:53pm
Here's a great example of what is going on:
The Trump troll has trolled up race war. Minority of United States people who look white and think they are 100% white fall for it, think we've MAGA way back to the 1980's, think they're Bernhard Goetz. Tallahassee police and white NYTimes reporter types don't fall for it. Those who continue to talk black vs white or white vs. black are just feeding the troll and trying to recreate the 1980's (reminder: it's 2018, soon to be 2020) while the culture continues to change without them. Those who define by race are going to be left behind, there's no doubt about it. The majority is on that side. Trump is 70 years old, he's going to die soon. Continually feeding outrage on either side just prolongs the agony of the Trump troll effect. Ridicule by the majority and support for those who act right is the answer. Glass half full, we're on our way: back to the common good. Race war in actuality, it in the process of dying. They are raging against their death.
by artappraiser on Mon, 09/17/2018 - 1:17pm
The white supremacists only need the mere existence of ethnic minorities to be outraged. Gerrymandering turned into an art form to keep otherwise powerless blacks from voting. The white suoremacistd don’t need any action by ethnic minorities to be outraged.
by rmrd0000 on Mon, 09/17/2018 - 2:34pm
What I see is that you have a vested interest in maintaining they get maximum attention to their outrage, instead of being marginalized as has happened, so you can war against them. You like the whole idea of minority tribes, including white suprematists. And war between the tribes. You would be real sad if they disappeared. You seem to love outrage and victimhood.
by artappraiser on Mon, 09/17/2018 - 3:00pm
White supremacist ideology is not going away by closing your eyes. The majority of the country believes Trump is a racist because his racism was confronted. District Attorneys who refused to prosecute police who killed unarmed black men where voted out of office because their racist behavior was confronted. You are the one who argues for placing the racists. Because of confrontation, they are on the run. They hate being exposed to the light.
by rmrd0000 on Mon, 09/17/2018 - 3:29pm
White pathology and black pathology can be attacked simultaneously
Exactly! By stopping talking about races and tribes! Skin color is a false indicator or anything but melanin, increasingly it is precisely racist to continually talk about race. Those who persist in doing so, the fact of increasingly mixed race people(s) and the realization that most are in fact mixed race already will continually fly in your face. If one is going to go for the "tribal" thing, the only chance in having effect or making any sense is going by class and perhaps by problematic occupation, i.e., police culture, disability-payment-collecting culture, etc.To continue to talk about race is racist.
by artappraiser on Mon, 09/17/2018 - 12:53pm
We are not going to stop talking about race because race is the core of the problem. We are not post-racial. Skin color elicits responses. Racism exists. Ignoring race perpetuates the problem. Fukuyama believes that identity politics angers the racists. The racists are always angry. The idea that only racists talk about race is an alt-right meme that has been picked up by scared Liberals.
The common good means that you have to do nothing and others have to come around to your point of view.
by rmrd0000 on Mon, 09/17/2018 - 1:10pm
You are a racist, I think you need to deal with that.
I think your approach and whole way of thinking and most things you advocate are nearly 100% counterproductive, help feed the Trump troll, and will continue to dis it when you do that on this website whenever I am up to it. Because: I think it's racist. And I think tribalism is bad for humankind.
The culture is changing and people of color are climbing to their rightful place and out of tribes. Every time you whine victimhood olympics and pro-tribal sympathies you drag them down a few steps, back down with all the Trumpies.
by artappraiser on Mon, 09/17/2018 - 1:24pm
I'm with Obama (reminder: half Kenyan, half Caucasian American, raised in Indonesia and Hawaii, far from Ferguson, MO tribe, got put on the Greyhound bus as it were) on how you make democracy work. I posted this on your thread but I think it needs to be on this one too. The clip is mislabeled by the conservative poster, it is actually about HOW YOU MAKE DEMOCRACY WORK:
by artappraiser on Mon, 09/17/2018 - 1:35pm
Ideas are not being rejected because they are coming from whites or males, they are being rejected because they are crap ideas (See Fukuyama)
by rmrd0000 on Mon, 09/17/2018 - 3:39pm
This is a general principle you should consider when the ideas you post here are rejected.
by ocean-kat on Mon, 09/17/2018 - 4:21pm
The principle is universal.
by rmrd0000 on Mon, 09/17/2018 - 4:44pm
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by artappraiser on Mon, 09/17/2018 - 8:20pm