MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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By Haley Britsky @ Axios., 1 hr. ago and lots of other places
With Hannity show video where he said it. I saw this break a couple hours ago on Twitter and have been listening to CNN and MSNBC back and forth since. They are all freaking out that this is major malpractice, really stoopid of Guiliani, opens trouble for Trump. I'm not so sure. We'll see. Developing...
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The big picture thing I don't think pundits are getting is:
Trump voters think he's lying about Stormy Daniels. And no, they don't really care.
@ USA TODAY Published 6:00 a.m. ET May 2, 2018 | Updated 4:37 p.m. ET May 2, 2018
Edit to add: to me, sounded like Giuliani was talking about a retainer type situation where Cohen gets an annual fee to be a fixer of problems that Trump didn't have time to pay much attention to and in this case, the story is going to be that he didn't pay much attention. And money paid out by Cohen for "expenses" along the way to fix things might be paid back later without itemization. Legal people on teevee are finding this illegal one way or another, i e. construction of payments, other complicated accusations.Avenatti was of course waxing victorious and saying Trump is going down. I don't see a lot of the public buying that that would be so egregious, especially in the case of a busy wealthy man trying to cover up adultery. I am reminded of the general attitude to Bill Clinton's lies, he got a mulligan on that from a lot of the public.
by artappraiser on Wed, 05/02/2018 - 11:58pm
I think the public will see the argument Haberman is making here as nitpicking, much ado about nothing, go with Trump argument that that kind of thing which they read about while waiting in the grocery line all the time, the Kennedy's probably did it too, etc., won't see any connection with Russia et. al.:
by artappraiser on Thu, 05/03/2018 - 3:24pm
The plurality of the "public" may not be moved by this development but it does cause a spot of bother for any legal defense strategy.
"Your honor, I know my client lied repeatedly to any who would listen to him, denigrated and continues to denigrate those who counter his claims, tried to get the prosecutors fired so you wouldn't be listening to me say this, but it is important for you to understand that such minutiae has no bearing on the matters in the present proceedings."
by moat on Thu, 05/03/2018 - 4:03pm
by artappraiser on Wed, 05/02/2018 - 11:45pm
NO COLLUSION..!!!!!
Trump thought Stormy Daniels was a Texas hurricane relief charity, for Russian orphans....
by NCD on Wed, 05/02/2018 - 11:53pm
well there you go, perfect excuse!
by artappraiser on Wed, 05/02/2018 - 11:58pm
er, on second thought: the contract that "David Dennison" signed didn't say "Stormy Daniels", it said "Peggy Peterson."
by artappraiser on Thu, 05/03/2018 - 12:04am
comes to mind now, NCD, what you've got to get straight to play this correctly. NO COLLUSION!!! And no Russian orphans! Go back to the Access Hollywood tape! PROOF!!! Trump is mega alpha, yuuuge, so many babes, so many hookups available all times of day, so little time, Trump does what Trump can. But cannot handle all the attention so many of them want after the hookup, they want more of Trump, who wouldn't?. So a percentage scorned come extorting afterwards and Cohen takes care of these and keeps all their names straight because Trump can't, Trump needs to offer services to MAGA. Cohen puts the paper in front of Trump, says: sign here, this name...
by artappraiser on Thu, 05/03/2018 - 2:01am
Did Trump pay out of pocket? Giuliani told the NYT that the money came from "his personal family account.” What does that mean? Trump Organization? If so, it's still a campaign violation.
by Michael Wolraich on Thu, 05/03/2018 - 12:27am
Except $129,999.72 was itemized and transferred from Trump campaign funds, which would make it not Trump's pocket, but an illegal embezzlement of campaign funds for personal use.
Keep digging, counsellor
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 05/03/2018 - 1:12am
Giuliani also said it right on the original Hannity interview, I just saw it replayed, Giuliani used these words that money was not campaign money, no campaign money, no campaign finance violation, ZERO! Then he went to explain a retainer type arrangement with Cohen, which he wasn't as definitive about.
He made it very clear, it was clear it was not a mistake, that is clearly what Giuiani planned to say, not a slip up, but one of the main reasons for going on the show. So now with the purported agreement from Trump with what he said, that's what they are going with. Somehow they are going with that....
by artappraiser on Thu, 05/03/2018 - 2:10am
"Who you gonna believe, me? or your lying eyes?" - the Marx Brothers rule our political world - must by a Jewish conspiracy.
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 05/03/2018 - 2:11am
must by a Jewish conspiracy.
Forecast for NYC tomorrow after suffering near freezing temps every night of April:a high of 91 degrees. Just sayin'!
by artappraiser on Thu, 05/03/2018 - 2:15am
Mayday! May....daaayyyy!!!!
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 05/03/2018 - 2:37am
by artappraiser on Thu, 05/03/2018 - 1:26am
Details on the above, the NYTimes spread all over the top of the home page with a big headline, looks almost like a tabloid with 'HUSH MONEY" in real large type:
President Repaid Hush Money, Giuliani Says
Statement Conflicts With Trump’s Claims on Stormy Daniels
By MICHAEL D. SHEAR and MAGGIE HABERMAN 16 minutes ago
Photo caption: Mr. Trump in April on Air Force One, where he was asked whether he knew about the payment. CreditDoug Mills/The New York Times
Here’s What Giuliani Said About the Payment
By THE NEW YORK TIMES 11:59 PM ET
Read a partial transcript of Mr. Giuliani’s interview.
by artappraiser on Thu, 05/03/2018 - 1:33am
WaPo is also headlining it, but more subdued:
Trump repaid lawyer Cohen for Stormy Daniels settlement, Giuliani says
The statement by Rudolph W. Giuliani, who recently joined President Trump’s legal team, appears to contradict the president’s previous assertion that he was unaware of the $130,000 payment to the porn actress.
Analysis: Trump repaying Michael Cohen doesn’t mean there were no campaign finance violations
by artappraiser on Thu, 05/03/2018 - 1:35am
by artappraiser on Thu, 05/03/2018 - 3:10am
C'mon, AA, do your Mom/Martha Stewart imitation to answer the "how come Hillary gets all the public pardons and I don't get any?"
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 05/03/2018 - 3:30am
Hmmm. Mom rules that he did indeed start it this time (mom being more like Ann Landers than Martha this time.).But the two of them, they are always going to fight, like oil and water. While Frank Rich obviously thinks they should have never been participating in our little NYC ruling family, that she shouldn't have done things like go to his wedding, that they should have been permanently separated "at birth", mom thinks he doesn't get it, our little NYC ruling family is still a family and she will eventually get back at him and all his buddies at the next Democratic convention and maybe elsewhere, too. She's a lawyer and smarter than him, ya know.
by artappraiser on Thu, 05/03/2018 - 1:28pm
P.S. Some family snapshots, from the old frenemies days; every family is dysfunctional in its own special way:
Always to keep in mind that The Donald isn't going anywhere until he dies, he's always going to be out there picking fights with the rest of the family. He usually starts it, he's full of himself.
by artappraiser on Thu, 05/03/2018 - 1:40pm
TRUMP would swear on a stack of National Enquirers that Hillary did it too...!!!
by NCD on Thu, 05/03/2018 - 10:26am
And that he is innocent.....on the biggest ever National Enquirer stack, hugest stack....enormous....in the presence of Saint Hannity...
by NCD on Thu, 05/03/2018 - 10:31am
Giuliani has been kept on the shelf well past his expiration date (to steal a Flavian expression). Trump was in a hurry and grabbed him from the corner bodega before jumping back into his SUV. All the best deals are done quickly by the lizard brain before the nagging superego intervenes and ruins the party.
The question that springs into my tiny mind is how New Hire Flood is reacting to all this.
Careful where you sit, Counselor. Some of the chairs still have pieces of their previous occupants clinging to them.
by moat on Thu, 05/03/2018 - 2:06pm
Trump was in a hurry and grabbed him from the corner bodega before jumping back into his SUV.
Proust, Tom Wolf et. al. would be soooo envious of this line! A++++. You sooo pegged it.
by artappraiser on Thu, 05/03/2018 - 2:29pm
Proves my point, this is a Pultizer Prize Winner and she doesn't have your skill of the SUV image, pretty much saying the same thing, but uses plain old "car"
by artappraiser on Thu, 05/03/2018 - 3:15pm
Being a vehicular hostage comes naturally to the American mind. It is also a favorite location for initiating transitions toward various states of consciousness. So, if my comment compares favorably to Haberman's, the credit is entirely due to Hunter S. Thompson.
Proust would have been okay in Brooklyn, Nevada, not so much.
by moat on Thu, 05/03/2018 - 3:45pm
Very interesting related stuff as told by many to Philip Rucker, Josh Dawsey, Robert Costa and Ashley Parker @ WaPo rendered into the public record May 3 at 4:41 PM
the little birds:
It's "P.R. 101" by Giuliani:
It's the legal guys' idea, stupids, and those seem like their tweets, not his:
by artappraiser on Thu, 05/03/2018 - 6:14pm
Hmmnn. This morning, I made a five dollar bet with a very significant other that Giuliani would be gone in 3 weeks.
I am now going to raise that to a tenner on it happening before the end of next week.
by moat on Thu, 05/03/2018 - 6:57pm
Don't know ... if most reports are correct, this whole scheme was concocted between Trump and Giuliani with little to no input from others. Much like Pruitt, if Trump's got his back he may last longer than his stink-by date.
by barefooted on Thu, 05/03/2018 - 8:14pm
Good points.
On the other hand, Trump really needs Flood or someone of that caliber to take charge of legal matters asap. I don't see how Rudy improvising riffs with Donald works with that program.
Unlike Cabinet positions, this stuff is existential for the Self in Chief.
I am keeping my ten dollar bill on the table.
by moat on Thu, 05/03/2018 - 9:08pm
Before the end of next week? I'll take that bet.
by barefooted on Thu, 05/03/2018 - 9:10pm
The end of the aforementioned week has arrived. Giuliani is still a seamstress for the band.
I owe you ten bucks.
moat
by moat on Fri, 05/11/2018 - 9:01am
Except you didn't say fired by who, and he did get fired by his law firm. (you owe me $4.50 if they pay up)
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 05/11/2018 - 10:03am
These financial transactions are getting complicated.
I will set up an LLC to deal with them.
I am thinking of calling it Prehensile Contractions.
Maybe I could sideline in selling access to dagblog headliners.
*moat skips off to the bank in blue suede shoes*
by moat on Sat, 05/12/2018 - 11:33am
more promising news for moat's bet:
Dershowitz: Giuliani playing into prosecutors' hands
@ Politico.com, 05/06/2018 11:20 AM EDT
by artappraiser on Sun, 05/06/2018 - 10:15pm
Yes, when the Pander Bear turns on you, time to check to the pockets for bus fare.
by moat on Mon, 05/07/2018 - 9:29am
by artappraiser on Thu, 05/03/2018 - 3:11pm
also said Jared is disposable, Ivanka not:
by artappraiser on Thu, 05/03/2018 - 3:19pm
And now for the inevitable walk back by Trump.
This old man, he said what?
Now I have to kick his butt.
And it's a knick knack patty whack
give the guy a break
He must have eaten something fake.
by moat on Fri, 05/04/2018 - 11:20am
"Knick knack paddy whack
Playing whack-a-mole,
this old guy's a reall asshole"
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 05/04/2018 - 11:46am
Politico keeping on the developing for moat's bet, here's their current headline story:
Trump says Giuliani will ‘get his facts straight’
'Rudy is a great guy but he just started a day ago,' the president says.
by artappraiser on Fri, 05/04/2018 - 1:40pm
Looking good for moat (maybe bet on Hannity being thrown under the bus, too?)
by artappraiser on Sat, 05/05/2018 - 4:36am