MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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Ahhhhhhhhhh, yesterday
Seems like a short while ago.
Denny Hastert, the preserver of family values for the GOP is finally convicted of pedophilia.
This just got to me.
Hypocrisy is everywhere all the time.
BUT DAMN!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/dennis-hastert-sentence-abuse_us_5713f320e4b0018f9cba558d
And we should endorse the GOP?
Anyway, the top GOP basterd has been sentenced for a period that does not even include penance for his real crimes.
the end
Comments
15 months and counting!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/dennis-hastert-sentence-abuse_us_5713f320e4b0018f9cba558d
by Richard Day on Wed, 04/27/2016 - 5:21pm
How many of these disgusting types are in positions of power? The same people who impeached Clinton for a consensual relationship with an adult (although it was also a terrible abuse of power) were guilty of worse crimes with nonconsensual children? This list goes on, and I have lost the time-line, but it is repulsive that they just ignore it and generally speaking, it goes away. But because Hillary worked on her marriage she is pilloried as though she was a part of the whole sordid scene as to Bill's affairs!
Seriously! We need to fight back, and fight dirty if necessary. And by that, I merely mean not being afraid to put the GOP's dirty laundry on the line. How many affairs has Donald had while married? Interview people who were thrown out of his tenements so he could build high-end apartments...interview people who lost their jobs due to his multiple bankruptcies.
We really need to get this out. Not because I think he is a huge challenge to Hillary, but because THIS IS THE GOP!
by CVille Dem on Wed, 04/27/2016 - 6:29pm
Yeah Cvillle, I just hit Ramona's post and noted that Hillary has to Trump back. hahahah
Huffington cannot let go on her blog and neither can I.
A few months ahead, Hillary should just play old videos of T-Rump saying what he is wont to say.
hahhahahah
He is such a pig.
Odds are T-Rump is trumped in the 2016 election. Oh God I hope I am right!
by Richard Day on Thu, 04/28/2016 - 7:59am
I'm still bothered by $3.5 million as hush money for a handjob to a 17-year-old. Yeah, underage and Hastert was in a position of power - and I'd rather see Hastert with a short prison term for the actual crime than a proxy withdrew-too-much-money case that ignores the extortion involved. I can probably count on 1 pinky the number of raped/penetrated underage girls who received a payout of 1/10th that. And the proper outlets for a gay man in a town of 2000 people in 1970 were miniscule and forbidden.
I don't get any joy off of this, Republican or not. I'm reminded of the pathetic closeted gay union leader in Last Exit to Brooklyn watching his life go down the tubes and just feel nauseous.
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 04/28/2016 - 2:04am
I get what you're saying and I agree in principle, but there also should not be a Statute of Limitations on pedophilia, or rape of any sort. Hard to believe there is, actually.
by CVille Dem on Thu, 04/28/2016 - 7:31am
Hmmm, no, not quite what I'm saying, and obtaining accurate info to provide a fair trial 20 years later is rather difficult, both due to evidence and changing values. You can't get a "trial of your peers" 20 years later because we've moved on - sometimes favoring the accused, sometimes against. Hastert is a creep, but in the age before Sinead tore up the picture of the Pope to protest coverup of priest pedophiles, hardly the only one. We just found a convenient tangential way to punish him retroactively, unlike most of the others.
The the $3.5 million extortion or remedy on top of the sentencing is a type of double punishment, as is his giving up his public position (I think) due to concerns about exposure. That it was illegal acts rather than Clinton's legal affair changes it a bit - but what if Monica asked for $3.5 million to keep quiet? Would it make a difference whether she was his subordinate at the time or not? Samantha Geimer won her payout settlement through the courts, though obviously the whole idea for the molested boy was for it *not* to be known.
And I've much less sympathy for Jerry Sandusky, who was abusing boys far into the age of gay rights and even gay marriage.
I would also distinguish acts that involve violence, ones that involve penetration and those that are more coercive & exploitive but less intrusive and traumatizing. Others might disagree - I don't know what the law says in different locales. Oklahoma just ruled that snatching a bit of oral sex from a stone comatose drunk 16-year-old girl is okay. I also have a feeling they'd find a way to make the law work if it were a 16-year-old boy. And then a couple who are found having sex in a car wind up on the 'sex offenders" list with rapists, pedophiles and what-have-you.
And living in Europe with less conservative attitudes towards sex around also affects my feelings here.
Hope that clarifies.
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 04/28/2016 - 8:32am
I support law enforcement investigating large or unusual bank withdrawals to look for criminal behavior.
I support prosecuting serial pedophiles. Difficult circumstances and a repressive culture doesn't give a person an excuse to molest the under aged.
That the law is often unevenly enforced doesn't mean that everyone should get the same punishment as the least punished person. Just because Oklahoma decided that if a girl gets drunk a guy can do sexual shit to her comatose body doesn't mean other pedophiles should get no punishment.
It's possible the abused person could or should be prosecuted for blackmail. Whether he is or isn't doesn't change my first three points.
by ocean-kat on Thu, 04/28/2016 - 4:59pm
The large withdrawals thing started with the war on drugs, which I partially agree with for harder drugs, completely disagree with for marijuana where it's been used most.
My main point with Hastert is there are several issues and I feel no joy or desire to pile on with high 5's, whatever his political party and hypocrisy. He's a predator and a victim of his sexuality×, along with the money thing. Anyway, my M.O. is to look at things from alternate angles, whether completely justified or not.
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 04/29/2016 - 12:21am
Looking at things from alternative angles is fine. Some times I'm even closer to your view than the more traditional liberal view. I can see possible problems with a massive jump to $15 in poorer areas of the country. I'm not totally against fracking though I may be less supportive than you. I'm not with you on Hastert. I'm not the type to high 5 anything but I'm quietly satisfied he's been revealed and punished.
If it had been a consensual affair with an adult. If he had used his political influence to move the country toward a more accepting attitude to people of different sexual orientations. Then I might have a more forgiving attitude. But he sought to punish people for sexual dalliances less than his own. Being a victim does not give one a right to be a predator, to create more victims.
The law was very clear at the time. Sexual contact with a minor was illegal. With some small caveats for example high school students close in age but separated by that line, I support those laws. He got what he deserved and your reasoning has not convinced me differently.
by ocean-kat on Fri, 04/29/2016 - 1:02am
If he had been a 19-year-old captain of the wrestling team, he would have just got the shit beaten out of him, though I doubt prosecutors would have been swayed by the close-in-age bit for gay behavior in 1971 if it came up or if it was even allowed in Illinois (this would have gone state by state). I had a friend - quickly became ex - whose proud response to a gay making a pass at him was beating the guy up and throwing him in a dumpster. That was around 1980, and the college-aged friend seemed more of a tolerant stoner up to that point. YMMV. Laws may be clear, but they're often slow in catching up to human behavior, especially as written by Republicans.
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 04/29/2016 - 1:40am
Not sure what this has to do with Hastert. I've had a few experiences with gay men in my life. No thanks was always sufficient. I never wanted or needed to beat anyone up over it.
I guess I can share this, hell I'm 59 years old why should I care, but I've never told anyone. I got very drunk at a party when I was 15 and got felt up by an older gay man. It was upsetting, I got angry and pushed him away and yelled stop it and get away. He stopped quickly. I don't think I was traumatized in any way. But that minor experience does give me some small understanding of the much more severe experiences women can have when drunk. Perhaps it had some effect as I'm very hard core in my beliefs that women should not be molested in any way when drunk.
by ocean-kat on Fri, 04/29/2016 - 1:40am
Well, I think we've found a few points of common ground. Though most girls wouldn't get away with responding the way you did without being labeled & ostracized. (I think)
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 04/29/2016 - 2:56am