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No Murder Charges in Breonna Taylor Case One Felony Charge For Wanton Endangerment
By rmrd0000 on Wed, 09/23/2020 - 1:55pm |A grand jury indicted a former Louisville police officer on Wednesday for wanton endangerment during a botched drug raid that led to the death of Breonna Taylor in March. No charges were announced against the other two officers who fired shots, and no one was charged for causing her death.
The three-count indictment concerns Brett Hankison, a detective at the time, who fired into the sliding glass patio door and window of Ms. Taylor’s apartment building, both of which were covered with blinds, in violation of a department policy that requires officers to have a line of sight.
He is the only one of the three officers who was dismissed from the force, with a termination letter stating that he showed “an extreme indifference to the value of human life.”
In a news conference following the announcement of the grand jury’s decision, Kentucky’s attorney general, Daniel Cameron, said, “The decision before my office is not to decide if the loss of Breonna Taylor’s life was a tragedy — the answer to that question is unequivocally yes,” he said.
He added, “The pain people are feeling is understandable. I deeply care about the value and sanctity of human life, which deserves protection, and in this case a human life was lost,” he said, and went on to say: “My job was to put emotions aside and determine if criminal violations of state law resulted in the loss of her life.”
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Not an unexpected result.
Interpretation: You can be murdered by police in your own home and the police will not be charged with homicide.
The Louisville PD did not improve their image.
They ended, no-knock warrants.
The Louisville officers said they actually knocked on the door.
The survivor says that he didn't hear them announce.
Nothing has changed if the scenario repeated itself.
by rmrd0000 on Wed, 09/23/2020 - 2:10pm
"Louisville’s new measure will require law enforcement authorities to knock on an entry door and announce themselves as having a search warrant. “Absent exigent circumstances, wait a minimum of 15 seconds or for a reasonable amount of time for occupants to answer the door, whichever is greater, before entering the premises,” it says.". link
" exigent circumstances "
"15 seconds?"
"or a reasonable amount of time?"
The new ordinance is a joke. Unless someone's life is known to be in danger:
searches are done in daylight. if no answer to knocking get key from manager if a rental apartment, or house. if no key available, officers return later and repeat, leaving premises under observation to ensure no contraband is moved out.
by NCD on Wed, 09/23/2020 - 2:34pm
Any powdered drug can be dumped in the tub and washed down the drain in some minutes. Even pills can be flushed down the toilet though it would take a little longer. Cops would never find large quantities of drugs under your plan. Now I favor legalization of all drugs, but if we're going to continue the "war on drugs" we have to have no knock or short time entrance warrants
by ocean-kat on Wed, 09/23/2020 - 3:11pm
There was no evidence there were drugs in her apartment. There was no evidence she was dealing drugs. A drug dealer was her ex boyfriend, the cops thought there could be, but had no proof and did not find, drugs in her apartment. A cop on surveillance of the apartment didn't pay attention enough to know she was not alone. Another sprayed her apartment with gunfire from outside, he was charged. This operation was not worth risking a life for a hunch.
It is likely the case that a raid on a known drug stash house where the drug dealer is armed may be best handled by bashing the door in at night, but I would imagine by far the most drug confiscations by weight in most police departments are not done in the middle of the night targeting small time operators and going in with guns drawn in the middle of the night. That is risky escalation for a common, non-violent crime.
If a suspect flushed drugs down as drain, so what? It's small time bs.
by NCD on Wed, 09/23/2020 - 3:29pm
Yes this was a series of mistakes that resulted in a tragic outcome. But I'm sure if we had a complete accounting we'd find that the vast majority of no knock warrants result in finding large quantities of drugs. We should be honest about what making policy based on a mistake will do to that vast majority of cases.
If a suspect flushed drugs down as drain, so what? It's small time bs.
There in lies the disagreement. Many people don't think it's small time bs. If they did drugs would be legal and we wouldn't have this "war on drugs."The unintended consequence of your plan to protect the lives caused by a small number of mistakes is that it will be easier to get away with selling drugs illegally. The problem with illegal drugs is it funnels large amounts of money into the hands of some of the most violent people in our society. Your plan may save a few lives but will fund an increase in violence over all.
by ocean-kat on Wed, 09/23/2020 - 3:57pm
The civil suit outcome makes a lot of sense in the context of your interpretation of the case. It is the same as when a surgeon makes an egregious mistake and loss of life results. Where it is a terrible mistake that one must pay for/make reparations for, but not intentional anything. When that happens, everyone does not conclude: defund all surgery!
by artappraiser on Wed, 09/23/2020 - 4:08pm
All I have to say is that I'd do everything in my power to avoid serving on that grand jury if called to a voir dire.
by artappraiser on Wed, 09/23/2020 - 3:40pm
The Beeb, with no axe to grind except understanding what's going on with those crazy Americans now, has easy to access video of the State Attorney General's statement:
P.S. It appears he's black! Who'd a thunk it? Crazy Americans...
by artappraiser on Wed, 09/23/2020 - 3:53pm
Daniel Cameron appeared at the RNC and spoke to the family. I think many knew he was a Black Reuplican
RNC
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/25/us/politics/daniel-cameron-rnc-speech.html
Family meeting
https://www.wave3.com/2020/08/12/ag-daniel-cameron-meets-with-breonna-taylors-family/
by rmrd0000 on Wed, 09/23/2020 - 4:55pm
So you would like to argue that the problem is not systemic racism but what political party you are deemed to belong to? What a surprise!
Or Republicans who have black skin are not really black?
Republican leaners do tend to be stricter about "law and order" issues, who knew, you don't say?
Race baiting or partisanship, seems almost like you have to pick one or the other, what a bummer for you.
by artappraiser on Wed, 09/23/2020 - 5:22pm
You seemed to be surprised that Cameron was a P.O.C. I thought that it was common knowledge.
by rmrd0000 on Wed, 09/23/2020 - 5:25pm
I redirect back to what I was insinuating: So the many black police chiefs and black prosecutors are traitors to their race, enforcing systemic racism?
(Enquiring minds wonder how this whole thing is going to shake out when Kamala Harris, former prosecutor, is V.P....we'll see...)
Edit to add: I wonder how all BBC viewers interpret this. You like to accuse others of being in a bubble, what I see is projection every time, you can't step outside a tribal view for one second, it's impossible, you give a shit about seeing things from any view except tribe, you spend a lot of time splainin' supposed tribe's views, speaking for them...impossible for you to even try anyone else's shoes much less try them out for a minute or two...
by artappraiser on Wed, 09/23/2020 - 5:35pm
I said that the result was not surprising.
I then commented on the law.
by rmrd0000 on Wed, 09/23/2020 - 5:52pm
Police do not provide full details on no-knock warrants. A 2014 study suggested that 36% of no-knock warrants did not find drugs in drug search cases.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/the-war-on-drugs-gave-rise-to-no-knock-warrants-breonna-taylors-death-could-end-them
Breonna Taylor was killed in a search that had a 36% chance of coming up empty handed based on available national data. We don't know if Louisville numbers are worse given the haphazard methods used to obtain the warrant.
by rmrd0000 on Wed, 09/23/2020 - 4:48pm
After Breonna was killed by Louisville police, they tried to get her ex-boyfriend Glover to sign a plea deal (he had been arrested and caught with loads of illegal drugs) that named the deceased Breonna as a member of his drug gang. He refused.
Police also did not find ANY illegal drugs in Breonna's apartment after murdering her. NPR September 2:
by NCD on Wed, 09/23/2020 - 6:11pm
Particularly note the plea deal to Glover to implicate her after she's dead. That is blatant cynical corruption by city prosecutors of the most egregious extent.
Mitch McConnell, Rand Paul country.
by NCD on Wed, 09/23/2020 - 5:29pm
Police and prosecutors lie routinely. As long as some civilian goes to jail, they are rewarded.
Someday people will figure out how many tax dollars go to paying off police lawsuits.
The Louisville police rank and file will resist any meaningful change.
The Taylor family is fortunate to have had Ben Crump on the case to make the case national.
At the end of the day, nothing has changed for black citizens of Louisville who come into contact with the police.
The email sent by the Louisville officer telegraphs that the rank and file don't care that Breonna died.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/09/22/sgt-jonathan-mattingly-emails-officers-about-breonna-taylor-shooting/5867029002/
This sad image also played out in Aurora, Colorado
After officers killed an autistic black man, other officers went back to the scene to mimic the death
The idea was to cheer up the officers charged in the autistic man's death.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/04/us/Elijah-McClain-aurora-police-officers.html
by rmrd0000 on Wed, 09/23/2020 - 5:50pm
We can be confident too that some percentage, I would guess a significant percentage, of the no-knock raids that did find drugs did not find dealer size amounts but instead only the occupant's personal stash.
by A Guy Called LULU on Wed, 09/23/2020 - 5:14pm
At the end of the day, police killed an unarmed, innocent Black woman.
This is deemed completely justified.
The crime was shooting into walls and not hitting anyone.
Many people do not see justice in this decision.
Edit to add:
A woman died. This case should have gone to trial
Altered gone to a jury to gone to trial
The question now goes to what evidence Cameron presented
There are questions whether only one person at the complex heard police announce while others in the complex did not.
The full transcript will have to released
It is obvious that the transcript will not be released until the officer goes to trial.
by rmrd0000 on Wed, 09/23/2020 - 9:44pm
I said a while back it was extremely doubtful to get a murder charge from cops carrying out a judge-approved warrant. That they got the 1 charge was at least better than being totally cleared, but on the other hand, this case still isn't clear like Sandra Bland's. We've got a lot of conflicting social and criminal situations that makes clarity far off in the distance. Maybe Neuralink will let people feel better and get high w/o drugs and we can largely remove that complication from our integration and social acceptance morasse.
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 09/24/2020 - 12:43am
The fact that the decision was not unexpected is why there are protests.
We don't know what facts were presented to the grand jury.
There are questions about how the warrant was obtained.
Many don't want drugs
They want to remember this is legal in the United States.
No protest = No change
Protest = No change
Now they wait 15 seconds before unleashing Hell.
by rmrd0000 on Thu, 09/24/2020 - 7:41am
Who hears someone 'announcing' something, comprehends what they are saying, gets up, runs to their front door from bed in the middle of the night and then opens it to 4 armed un-uniformed strangers in 15 seconds?
The new ordinance legalizes reckless endangerment.
by NCD on Thu, 09/24/2020 - 9:35am
True
Nothing changed
by rmrd0000 on Thu, 09/24/2020 - 10:33am
Biden Gives Cautious Answers on Breonna Taylor and the Supreme Court
Asked by reporters about two issues of deep importance to Democrats, the party’s nominee was circumspect. The Biden campaign later released a fuller statement about Ms. Taylor.
@ NYTimes.com, Sept. 23
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and @ WashingtonPost.com LIve Updates: 9:17 p.m.
Biden urges peaceful protests, calls for police reforms in wake of Breonna Taylor decision
By Matt Viser
by artappraiser on Thu, 09/24/2020 - 1:34am
Biden & Harris tweets on the two cops shot in Louisville on Weds. night:
by artappraiser on Thu, 09/24/2020 - 4:29am
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by artappraiser on Thu, 09/24/2020 - 2:28am
Grand jury recording to be released Weds.:
by artappraiser on Tue, 09/29/2020 - 12:09am
This ^ is very special treatment, very rare:
by artappraiser on Tue, 09/29/2020 - 12:12am
The release of the grand jury transcripts is a good thing. Many have no trust in the grand jury. As noted above, a juror sued for release of the transcript.
The wording used was interesting
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/09/28/breonna-taylor-case-grand-juror-release-transcript-louisville/3568705001/
by rmrd0000 on Tue, 09/29/2020 - 12:26am