MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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Yes, I have been following this and it is striking and I am surprised. Not surprised that this is general policy but that so many would do this pushback against Trump. I was especially impressed at the quickness of the Suffolk (Long Island) P.D. pushback after his speech. Queens County of NYC and bordering Suffolk County of Long Island is notorious "Guiliani cop country," this is where so many white NYC cops live. When there is a NYC cop in trouble in the news, or a group organize turning their back on someone in authority or something along those lines, it seems eventually to come out that he/she lives there. My stereotype is busted, I think of the type of guy or gal that is a Trump fan, would not just excuse all Trump hyberpole, but secretly like it and be happy that he is saying it for them.
And then so many other organizations following suit. That they aren't being silent, not giving Trump a mulligan because they like the effect of having of the commander-in-chief come and issue scary bully threats.
It makes it hopeful that from the top down at least, in police science, we finally have a new paradigm developing. Maybe the problems we see are because 1) it takes time tor change to fully effect and 2) tough local budgets probably don't help quicken the change.
by artappraiser on Sun, 07/30/2017 - 12:31pm
I'd like to think that this is a delayed result of embarrassment from last year when police went all macho instead of saying the obvious that shooting unarmed people and riding them around in the back of vans until their backs break is simply wrong, that cops' safety and public cooperation depends largely on the perception that 90%+ of cops are professional and playing by the rules, and the others will eventually pay for it. Muted reaction last year, more vocal this - it's a good change. Last year undermined a lot of police effort at public outreach, and the parade of smart phone videos hasn't been flattering (nor shooting the Australian reporting an assault and finding the obligatory video missing or not even turned on).
We had a case here where police pulled over a Muslim driver and insisted on her Muslim daughter showing I.d. the driver was a lawyer, and asked by what statute the cop was asking this info, and he answered he didn't have to remember every statute by memory, then dragged them to the station, searched everything, etc. This in a small city where the week before the chief of police was complaining the biggest excitement was grass growing. But at least it's being reported as something wrong, police overreach.
by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 07/30/2017 - 1:01pm
It's possible that there is some change from the top down but I'm less optimistic than you or PP. All the repudiation came from the top while the rank and file that mostly made up the crowd at Trump's speech cheered and applauded at his encouragement of the use of excessive force. It's one thing for the top to repudiate a speech it's another to take action against the rank and file when someone acts with excessive force or even kills. I've yet to see much of that. Usually the top closes ranks and defends the abusive cop.
by ocean-kat on Sun, 07/30/2017 - 1:59pm
Please note paragraph 1: "I'd like to think...", while paragraph 2 isn't even in the US, so no, not terribly optimistic.
by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 07/30/2017 - 2:49pm
I am also glad that the head of the Boy Scouts as well as one Police Chief pushed back on trump's crude jokes, the ridiculing of President Obama and Secretary Clinton, as well as the encouragement to behave unlawfully.
But don't forget that the 40,000 Boy Scouts (acting like sheep) cheered when he asked, and boo'ed when he crudely made jokes and insults. The police did the same thing, chuckling along with him and clapping when prompted
When even trump's cynical ability to stir the masses results in silence, we will know that our nation is healing. Until then, I don't think so.
sad
by CVille Dem on Sun, 07/30/2017 - 7:39pm
in Dowd's column for today, makes the big picture point superbly succinctly about this speech:
I also like the choice of illustration for the title "President Trump’s Really Weak Week", it's Bosch, but I note which Bosch it is:
by artappraiser on Sun, 07/30/2017 - 3:35pm
She forgot Comey.
by rmrd0000 on Sun, 07/30/2017 - 8:04pm
Sueprise, sueprise, sueprise! ~ Gomer Pyle
Sessions offers rare warning on dangers of police misconduct
By Josh Gerstein @ Politico.com, 08/01/2017 08:16 PM EDT
by artappraiser on Wed, 08/02/2017 - 12:58am
another harsh condemnation came from a particularly notable source: the acting administrator of the Drug Enforcement Administration, Chuck Rosenberg. (TPM)
by artappraiser on Wed, 08/02/2017 - 1:21am