MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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Turns out the president doesn't just like to read certain op-ed columnists, but he also often has them over to the White House to discuss and debate in long group meetings "off the record." Names are named in the article:
By Dylan Byers, Politico.com, Nov. 1, 2013
[....] The off-the-record meetings are held over coffee around the long wooden conference table in the Roosevelt Room, just off the West Wing lobby. Participants vary depending on the issue of the day, but there are regulars. (David) Brooks, the New York Times columnist, is a frequent guest, as is Joe Klein of Time Magazine. From The Washington Post: E.J. Dionne, Eugene Robinson, Ezra Klein and Fred Hiatt, the editorial page editor. On foreign policy: the Post’s David Ignatius, Bloomberg View’s Jeffrey Goldberg, and the Times’ Thomas Friedman. He also holds the occasional meeting with conservatives. This month, he met with Washington Post columnist and Fox News contributor Charles Krauthammer, Wall Street Journal editorial page editor Paul Gigot, and other influential representatives from the right.
The sessions, which have become more frequent in Obama’s second term — he held at least three in October — provide a stark contrast to the combative, sometimes cantankerous relationship between the White House and the press corps [....]
Comments
I don't know the rest all that well, but it is depressing to think the Prez values the opinions of Friedman, Brooks and Krauthammer.
by Donal on Fri, 11/01/2013 - 10:50am
Or that seemingly Friedman & Brooks don't count as conservatives in this unbalanced lineup.
by Anonymous PP (not verified) on Fri, 11/01/2013 - 11:23am
Not to Politico, apparently, with a large audience that looks like this. Ever suspect, maybe just once in a blue moon, that you might also be subject to thinking within a bubble as to things such as what is considered left and what is considered right?
by artappraiser on Fri, 11/01/2013 - 12:24pm
I read the article, especially the quotes from some of the non-conservative participants, more as saying it's not that he values their opinions but that he thinks they are ones that will often end up getting his point of view out there with a fair shake and might even come round to supporting it:
Myself, I am kind of shocked that when I came to the conclusion that David Ignatius seemed to have very high level excellent sources on what the Obama administration was thinking (on like Netanyahu and Iran, or Snowden) that a lot of it was probably coming directly from the president himself. That is not the kind of source I was imagining.
I wonder what the shake out of this article will be. All these guys have basically been outed as having a direct line to the Oval Office!
by artappraiser on Fri, 11/01/2013 - 11:32am
Brooks blames Penn State crimes on Dirty Hippies.
Meet The Press, from the transcript:
MR. BROOKS: I don't think it was just a Penn State problem. You know, you spend 30 or 40 years muddying the moral waters here. We have lost our clear sense of what evil is, what sin is; and so, when people see things like that, they don't have categories to put it into. They vaguely know it's wrong, but they've been raised in a morality that says, "If it feels all right for you, it's probably OK."
...MR. GREGORY: Is it really that we don't know right from wrong? Is there anybody who doesn't know that sodomizing a 10-year-old boy in a shower by another man is wrong?
Driftglass on Brooks: Afflicting the afflicted, and comforting the comfortable for 30 years.
Driftglass on 'moral water muddying':
..by Mr. Brooks' logic, the child rape cult at the heart of the Catholic Church could only have been the product of the free-wheeling, godless, anything-goes attitude for which Catholicism has so long been famous.
by NCD on Fri, 11/01/2013 - 12:03pm
He also has a large audience, one which seems to include you at times.
by artappraiser on Fri, 11/01/2013 - 12:25pm
Driftglass, yes. Brooks, hardly. I annually cancel my NYT for a month or two, and cite Brooks as the reason.
by NCD on Fri, 11/01/2013 - 2:22pm