MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE by Michael Wolraich Order today at Barnes & Noble / Amazon / Books-A-Million / Bookshop |
This piece by a University of Chicago law professor (who happens to be my brilliant sister-in-law) explains that the ACLU's position on the 1st Amendment evolved as a pragmatic strategy to achieve social justice rather than a principled commitment to free speech for its own sake.
PS Disregard the misleading L.A. Times headline.
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Naturally, our soft-headed friends at the Washington Examiner are going nuts:
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/free-speech-social-justice-and-the-lef...
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/university-of-chicago-law-professor-wa...
by Michael Wolraich on Thu, 08/31/2017 - 3:32pm
Wolraich . . .
Something that might interest you . . .
Without the right to assemble or speak freely--the following would have been
near impossible to have transpired here in Los Angeles. It's a great read...
This Undercover Spy Operation Helped Foil a Nazi Plot in 1930s L.A.
~OGD~
by oldenGoldenDecoy on Thu, 08/31/2017 - 7:34pm
Thanks, OGD. Looks interesting. I'm currently pitching a book about Nazis myself, but in Europe not the US.
by Michael Wolraich on Fri, 09/01/2017 - 12:14am
Isn't the First Amendment itself a "pragmatic strategy" to achieve social justice? The right to speak is a check upon authorities that would silence a person or group simply because the authorities have the power to do so. It is like the Establishment of Religion clause: If I don't let other people teach perverted nonsense to their kids, I will lose the right to teach good things to mine.
If we are going to talk about the limits of what is permitted, it should be noted that free speech runs up against established power when the law and enforcement of the law oppose the polity being promoted. In the article, Weinrib underlines how the strategy did not spell victory for the labor movement or the power of collective bargaining. I think the analysis should have included the role of civil disobedience as a means of changing policy. When people personally risk their freedom to express a point of view or to protect what they see as their right, then they are throwing themselves on to the mercy of a different court than those established by our Constitution.
We live in a time where almost all of the items on the White Supremacists to-do list are against the law. This makes them more like the resistance to Jim Crow than the evolution of Labor as a thing in the law. So this situation could be described as a test of whether the moral censure that gave birth to civil rights laws is still alive and well.
by moat on Thu, 08/31/2017 - 7:36pm
I don't think she's suggesting that the ACLU's pragmatic strategy was wrong. It was clearly beneficial to the labor movement and the civil rights movement in the 20th century. But she does raise a worthwhile question whether the strategy is still practical today. More recently, the chief beneficiary of 1st Amendment jurisprudence hasn't been unions or civil rights activists; it has been corporations.
by Michael Wolraich on Fri, 09/01/2017 - 12:10am
Nazi riffraff legally marching through the streets assaulting people, waving swastikas and shouting white supremacist slogans while carrying weapons is sine qua non evidence of a liberty loving society! Destined for ever greater greatness!
Better yet, if many have criminal records or have beaten a disabled parent.
The Virginia ACLU apparently understood the core western values here.
(Sarcasm alert!)
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-- Congrats on your very erudite relative and her book - so relevant to the times!
by NCD on Thu, 08/31/2017 - 8:56pm
Thanks, NCD. I don't think she anticipated this, and she's been horrified by the reaction. The book is very academic--somewhat controversial to legal historians, perhaps, but not to anyone else. The WSJ even gave it a laudatory review.
by Michael Wolraich on Fri, 09/01/2017 - 12:05am
I think free speech is an end to itself and I buy the old saw about hating what some people say but defending their right to say it. If the ACLU is merely considering not backing armed demonstrations, I think that's fine. Open carry laws do kind of change the facts on the ground. It's one thing for you to stand on the corner yelling hateful things at me. It's another to do it with a loaded gun in your hand. That gun robs me of my freedom to shout back.
While I appreciate the context here, I don't think that you only support free speech in the interests of some other social cause. I think the ACLU gains a lot of credibility for its willingness to defend speech without regard to content. Without the ACLU playing that role, the whole conversation devolves into partisans in a power struggle to defend the speech they like and to eliminate the speech they don't.
by Michael Maiello on Thu, 08/31/2017 - 9:40pm
If you examine the ACLU actions in Charlottesville, they weren't defending free speech, they were opposing the cities moving the racist demonstration to McIntire Park, at the edge of the town, for safety reasons according to the city.
The city had no intention to ban the demonstration, they wanted to move it off the narrow streets in the small downtown to a large park in an open area.
The ACLU was in fact ridiculing city concerns on public safety in a hubristic, contemptuous fashion that ultimately caused loss of life.
by NCD on Thu, 08/31/2017 - 10:55pm
Hard to see how this is unreasonable:
by Michael Maiello on Fri, 09/01/2017 - 7:37am
Unreasonable because a small town (45k?) with a riot inexperienced city/PD, that was just competent enough to at the last minute realize there were safety issues..
The judge should have allowed the change of venue, safety concerns, documented or not, are paramount.
Official incompetence in this Greek tragedy was rife.
by NCD on Fri, 09/01/2017 - 10:50am
That old saw is less than 100 years old, though. We only regard unfettered freedom of speech as a Constitutional right because the ACLU was so successful at persuading the courts and the public that this what the 1st Amendment intended. Before the 1930s, freedom of speech was far less celebrated and much more restricted.
Of course, the fact that the country didn't adequately protect free speech for the first 140 years of American history doesn't mean that it's not important. Maybe absolute free speech should be an end in itself. I have always thought so, and Laura isn't arguing otherwise. Her point is that it the ACLU didn't initially regard it as an end in itself, and it's at least worth asking whether the ACLU's 20th century legal arguments serve to advance the cause of social justice in the 21st century.
PS Laura also points out the pragmatic value of defending both sides, but the ACLU hasn't really commanded bipartisan respect in a long time, if ever.
by Michael Wolraich on Fri, 09/01/2017 - 12:00am
That old saw predates thr ACLU!
Agree, obviously, that the ACLU has never earned bipartisan support, but the real benefits of of free speech consistency has been in the courts, not just in the cases they bring but in being able to credibly file briefs that get noticed.
But say they are hopelessly characterized as left wing... maybe the next question for Laura to answer is not whether or not free speech absolutism is properly the goal of the ACLU but whether or not it should be a goal of the modern left. I think so, but I think I'm in the minority, particularly among the kids of Twitter and street protests, who seem quite happy to make compromises on these issues to further other aims.
by Michael Maiello on Fri, 09/01/2017 - 7:34am
ack! off-topic but a good place to put it, because: pushing that free speech envelope as far as it will go:
Charlie Hebdo cover suggests Hurricane Harvey victims are neo-Nazis
French hate speech laws, bloody terrorist attacks, nothing deters them.....
by artappraiser on Fri, 09/01/2017 - 2:33am
Yeah, I don't think that people who said "I am Charlie Hebdo" really understood what they were signing up for. Love it.
by Michael Maiello on Fri, 09/01/2017 - 7:38am
I'm still on board: G*d bless all political and religious satirists doing smear and ridicule to challenge thought. In a way, it is a little on topic, because the terrorist attack on them was violence instead of speech in return, and there were those who argued they were inciting it.
by artappraiser on Fri, 09/01/2017 - 9:08am
With you all the way on this. I am still Charlie Hebdo, even when (maybe especially when) he misbehaves.
by Michael Maiello on Fri, 09/01/2017 - 10:15am
Article about new lawsuit that should interest her and the rest of us interested in the topic
President Trump keeps blocking people on Twitter. Is that legal? @ Boston Globe Aug. 31
ACLU is not the entity involved, though, rather it is the "Knight First Amendment Institute at Columbia University." that is backing the suit for 7 individuals that Trump had curtailed First Amendment rights by blocking their access to speak freely in a public forum. The DOJ has argued that it would send the First Amendment deep into uncharted waters. But a law professor colleague of hers is quoted as recently changing her mind because of the way Trump has been using the site.
by artappraiser on Fri, 09/01/2017 - 9:11am
Just finished this one for the Sept.4 New Yorker, and it's mining in the same field. Even more so, as it uses the example of rabble rousing of fascists on the radio in the 1930's "info warfare", dystopian fears, corporate money skewing the situation, etc.: The Fake-News Fallacy: Old fights about radio have lessons for new fights about the Internet.
by artappraiser on Fri, 09/01/2017 - 9:53am
Adrian Chen is very, very good.
by Michael Maiello on Fri, 09/01/2017 - 10:29am