MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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Something quite extraordinary has been happened in recent months: Israeli leaders have taken to openly threatening to attack Iran’s nuclear facilities before Christmas 2012.
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Also it is interesting that Shavit chose to talk about Jeffrey Goldberg and Roger Cohen point/counterpoint as if they serve to represent well all the journalistic input into the situation while ignoring the quite different input of the highly regarded David Ignatius, which early in February basically helped Panetta jump over Jeffrey Goldberg, clearly making the point that the US administration was "heeding," and all that followed showed they were clearly not liking. This need to "heed" stuff is all over as far as I am concerned, seems pretty clear the US administration heeded and has ordered them not to do it. All that remains to be figured out is what they threatened them with, limp noodles or something that will work. Oh and he also neglects to mention that they have a problem with the Israeli public on this front, too--polls show they don't want anything done without US support. Earnest or not, these journo-whisperers of the "current Israeli leadership" don't have many people backing them up, not even in the Israeli military. About the only strong point Shavit made is that they are "rather isolated."
by artappraiser on Mon, 03/26/2012 - 6:40pm
I do not see any significance in Shavit referring to Goldberg and Cohen but not to Ignatius. Shavit picked one widely read person, Goldberg, who is predicting war and one, Cohen, who thinks that Goldberg is mistaken. Seems he picked those two with opposing views just to frame the issue, his choice could have been from among many others, but not Ignatius. At least, that is, based on the one article you linked to.
Ignatius merely talks about what is being said by various parties and offers no opinion of his own that I can see on whether either Israel or the U.S. will ultimately attack Iran. Shavit not referencing him is no more significant, or interesting, than not referencing you or me. Ignatius only stated conclusion is:
Shavit's whole piece seems not to be intended to offer more objective evidence of intent on any side but to say that his subjective opinion, based on what he claims to be close up and personal contact with key Israelis, is that there is good reason to believe those who claim an attack will happen.
His evaluation of their behind the scenes talk scares him that their publicly voiced maniacal threats are for real, that they are not a bluff.
Panetta believes there is a strong likelihood of an attack. "Senior Americans" according to Ignatius, do not believe the Israeli threats of attack are a bluff. U.S. officials, he says, see two possible ways to dissuade the Israelis from such an attack, get Iran to submit to our demands or hit them hard enough with black ops that an attack is unnecessary. Goldberg thinks an attack will happen, Cohen doubts it, I am afraid, for all the reasons NCD lists and more, that an attack may happen,and you are tired of hearing about it. Life goes on. Until it doesn't. Your near term prospects, and mine, remain much higher than those of many who are on the dangerous part of the game-board.
by A Guy Called LULU on Mon, 03/26/2012 - 8:22pm
Even the most apocalyptic politicians in Israel must know that if they bomb Iran:
(1) Gas will pop to $7-10+ a gallon. Yet, Iran will continue to enrich uranium.
(2) The world will enter another recession.
(3) Even the lowest information right wing nitwits will connect the 2 dots of 'Israel starts a war' and '$10 gas', which will not be good PR for the Jewish State.
(4) Short of solving the nuke situation, a near permanent state of Middle East war would develop, keeping gas prices up and economies down.
(5) Without an invasion and occupation of Iran, any bombing will only delay a nuke, which would in fact be made more likely in the long run if Iran was bombed.
(6)The inspectors would be kicked out like they were in North Korea.
(7) At that point Israel might preemptively hit Iran with nuclear weapons, which would open the doors of hell, solving nothing, while creating huge resolve in the region for economic and/or violent retribution against Israel and the US.
by NCD on Mon, 03/26/2012 - 7:21pm