MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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Here is the Pubic Evidence that Russia Hacked the DNC
By A Guy Called LULU on Wed, 12/14/2016 - 4:09pm |THERE ARE SOME good reasons to believe Russians had something to do with the breaches into email accounts belonging to members of the Democratic party, which proved varyingly embarrassing or disruptive for Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign. But “good” doesn’t necessarily mean good enough to indict Russia’s head of state for sabotaging our democracy.
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NBC News reports that Vlad Putin was directly involved in the DNC hack.
Donald Trump is a useful idiot for the Russia
Putin has a vendetta against Hillary.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/putin-russia-campaign-hacking_us_585...
by rmrd0000 on Wed, 12/14/2016 - 10:08pm
I Damn, LULU! I was hoping for something with some soft-porn. I'm still waiting to see the PUBIC EVIDENCE aabout Putin's role in the hacking.
by CVille Dem on Thu, 12/15/2016 - 8:50am
LOL. We are getting closer to being of one mind so I will leave that typo where you found it. If there is still any disagreement it would seem to be that I am waiting for a reality show, not just a fantasy piece intended to give boners to the usual suspects. I think there is actually more than soft porn being peddled though. Put back the deleted scenes and the whole picture gets ugly. From where I sit I see a big out of focus group scene where some participants really are getting fucked but we are not sure who is faking it. I would like to see a much sharper focus with a decent depth of field. I think it would shock the usual audience who buy into the usual narrative setup that every actor who isn't an American is a rapist while the good guys with the big hammer are just making [tough] love.
by A Guy Called LULU on Thu, 12/15/2016 - 9:50am
Are you suggesting that US intelligence agencies hacked the DNC and this is a "false flag" attack?
by rmrd0000 on Thu, 12/15/2016 - 10:12am
Yes, absolutely I am doing that. Sorry I didn't make that totally clear. In my most serious comment ever I thought that my supporting claim that a cow jumped over the moon, way bigger deal than just jumping a shark, would be accepted at face value but if you want convincing evidence, here it is:
That is a cow.
That is the moon.
And in case there is any doubt, here is absolute proof. I hope you understand now what I was saying.
by A Guy Called LULU on Thu, 12/15/2016 - 11:27am
LULU, you may have thought that you were being clear, but you weren't. Your response was definitely not clear.
:)
by rmrd0000 on Thu, 12/15/2016 - 11:40am
Smileys don't work
by rmrd0000 on Thu, 12/15/2016 - 11:41am
OK
Edited to add: :)
by A Guy Called LULU on Thu, 12/15/2016 - 11:44am
;-)
by CVille Dem on Thu, 12/15/2016 - 11:59am
Emojis
by rmrd0000 on Thu, 12/15/2016 - 12:15pm
Emojis are for amateurs.
by CVille Dem on Thu, 12/15/2016 - 2:55pm
Some of us never use emojis because we never get emotional. Just cool, calm, collected and rational all the time.
by ocean-kat on Thu, 12/15/2016 - 3:06pm
You're just ok, not too hot, not too cold - all the emotioemotionl range from a to b
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 12/15/2016 - 4:04pm
What I really dislike are the large ones, and the ones that have moving parts.
by CVille Dem on Thu, 12/15/2016 - 4:22pm
People in the intelligence community know that Trump and his Secretary of State have close ties to Russia. Trump does not believe information coming from intelligence agencies. Would you fear that information you supplied to Trump,would wind up on Putin's desk if you are an intelligence agent?
by rmrd0000 on Thu, 12/15/2016 - 9:04am
An astute point.
There are two different issues.
Dealing first with Tillerson ,he's entitled to the normal trust correctly extended to any American. But "trust but verify": McCain should tell him that as a matter of normal prudence we want him, Tillerson, convincingly to explain ,with respect to the Russians, why he believes we would be wrong to fear he would have the normal tendency to let down one's guard when dealing with a long time acquaintance.
With respect to Trump it would be irresponsible to ignore his signals that he does not feel obliged to comply with precedent, therefore McCain should tell Trump that the Senate would only approve Tillerson on condition that Trump commits to eschew personal contact with any Russian official except in the presence of Tillerson or his representative.
by Flavius on Thu, 12/15/2016 - 1:14pm
McCain and the rest of the GOP will cave. Lindsay Graham and Rand Paul may be the only holdouts. Tillerson will be confirmed without a great deal of conflict. The conflict will be settled by the time of the hearings. Putin is now our BFF.
by rmrd0000 on Thu, 12/15/2016 - 1:59pm
"Trust but verify"? With Hillary it was "speculate and condemn" from all sides. The GOP was ready to turn Obama's 1-year SJ hold into a full 4-year top-to-bottom lockdown for Hillary. Screw that - as they say in the South, obstruction today, obstruction tomorrow, obstruction forever.
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 12/15/2016 - 2:19pm
Precedents.
We're used to there being laws but forget the greater supply of precedents by which are actions are
controlled- until they aren't.
It never occurs to us to tell the driver not to run down a pedestrian. Unless the driver
is Trump. Not that I think he would. I don't. But we really haven't a clue what he will or won't do.
Part of his appeal to the non college educated . Who were wrong. Is that part of
the cost of non college education for the non college educated?
Don't think so.
My father had somewhat less than a year of high school but I can't imagine his
voting for Trump. He certainly voted for FDR .
I recall giving him a record which included FDR- on the campaign trail in 36- saying "I've had a g l o r i o u s day here in New England." It could have been true, but it wasn't.
He wasn't on Lexington Green. Or Nantucket. Or Craftesbury Common. Where it
might have been glorious. He was in a small open convertible on a hot street in
Worcester which is still waiting for its first glorious day.
Why did my father laugh?
He knew that FDR was having a rotten day but it was normal politics to say you were having a glorious day so he said it knowing full well that no one in the sound of his voice thought he was having
a glorious day nor thought he was trying to fool them
He was playing the role he was assigned, They knew it. He knew they knew it. They knew he knew
that they knew he was just playing his part while ,in effect winking at them.
And my father knew all the above and was fondly enjoying this well loved
voice from the past playing that game with his audience.
How do you get that smart without any college education?
Maybe by not having any college education?
Or high school, Except for half a term.
When we finally moved from Boston to a small town they seemed to
know.Voted him onto the draft board . Where he drafted me and
my brother. When they decided not to put up a monument to the WW2
dead, elected him to Chair the project to build veterans' housing instead.
(One of his best friends never spoke to him again.In New England
some people thought, still do, you should never help anybody. Bad
for the moral fibre or something. He was a bit sad, but
just shook his head.)
The veterans housing was a great success. Still standing and going
up in value.
by Flavius on Thu, 12/15/2016 - 9:35pm
I'm not sure college makes you smart. Maybe just gives you more wider precedents to work from than experience often buys. Maybe instills delayed gratification. I haven't used Calculus or nuclear Physics or Genetics since college.
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 12/16/2016 - 1:32am
A Democratic "Judicial Watch" - bravo. 2 decades of payback to deliver.
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 12/16/2016 - 5:52am