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    DAVID FRUM & REDEMPTION

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    I used to hate David Frum.

    I took over five or seven hours listening to him lately; as he admonishes the idiots who voted for Trump.

    Every historical analysis involves context.

    I never knew David Frum.

    I never met with Mr. Frum.

    SO WHY DID I HATE HIM SO?

    Here is one APOLOGY given by David Frum that I have viewed at least three times and I assure you that I have witnessed many times more than that as he sells his book.

     

     

    I just chose the celebration with only a half hour lecture coupled with many questions.

    Frum is Canadian for chrissakes.

    hahahahah

    This fact makes me laugh for no particular reason.

    He wrote speeches for the least competent orator in the Oval Office for decades?

    I hated Frum.

    But.....

    Context is a funny thing.

    I have come to the conclusion that the Bush Admin were comparing themselves with the Johnson/Nixon debacle called Vietnam.

    I mean, they felt that 5200 soldiers killed in the Mideast during their rein meant nothing in regard to the fact that 58,000 men died during the Vietnam Conflict.

    SO IT WAS NOT THAT BAD EVEN THOUGH WE LIED AND WE OBFUSCATED AND WE.....

    Anyway....

    We used to laugh at the Bush II mishaps with regard to language.

    And yet, now

    We are faced with a true buffoon.

    A true buffoon who now sits in the Oval Office.

    Just gooogle or yahoo or whatever the name:

    David Frum.

    Einstein said that everything is relative.

    And this idea sure applies with my view of Frum.

    Actually, I kind of like the guy?

    He is selling a book.

    He is getting money from his speeches and his book sales.

    SO THEY ALL ARE. (except for me of course. hahhahahah)

    Frum discusses the fabric of society.

    Frum discusses the rule of law.

    Frum discusses protocols.

    Frum discusses the election of a buffoon to the Presidency.

    I will come back to address these considerations.

    However, I do not hate Frum any longer.

    I certainly do not agree with this Canadian on many points.

    But he is important with regard to my ethos or world view.

    I kind of like the guy.

    Again, Frum is selling a book and he is making good bucks lecturing.

    So god bless america.

    So to David Frum, anyway, the times, they are achangin, I guess?

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    I can go back 8 fucking years to see Frum kind of change his 'views' or 'perspective'?

     

     


    Frum has long been a voice of sanity in the wilderness of modern conservatism--long before Bill Kristol and the other Never-Trumpers spoke up. I wrote about him in Blowing Smoke, back in 2010. This is what I wrote:

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    When John McCain selected Sarah Palin as his running mate, Frum called the decision “a huge mistake.” He later said of Palin, “Her divisiveness is not just within the country, it’s divisive within the party.” He also wrote a Newsweek article titled “Why Rush Is Wrong” and called Glenn Beck’s success “a product of the collapse of conservatism as an organized political force, and the rise of conservatism as an alienated cultural sensibility.”

    After the health care bill passed, Frum chastised Republicans for obstructing when they should have been compromising. Calling the bill’s passage the Republican’s “Waterloo,” he wrote:

    We followed the most radical voices in the party and the movement, and they led us to abject and irreversible defeat. There were leaders who knew better, who would have liked to deal. But they were trapped. Conservative talkers on Fox and talk radio had whipped the Republican voting base into such a frenzy that deal-making was rendered impossible. How do you negotiate with somebody who wants to murder your grandmother? Or—more exactly—with somebody whom your voters have been persuaded to believe wants to murder their grandmother?

    Most compellingly, Frum has hammered at the very foundations of persecution politics, eloquently explaining how the rise of Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, and Sarah Palin has turned the conservative movement on its head. He wrote:

    Back in the 1960s and 1970s, we’d been fighting to protect the common-sense instincts of ordinary people from elite interference. Now, in the Terri Schiavo euthanasia case, with stem cell research, on gay rights issues, it was we who had become the interfering elite, against a society that was reaching its own new equilibrium. Of course, that’s not how conservatives saw it. We saw a country divided in two, red states and blue, NASCAR vs. NPR, real America against the phonies in the cities. A movement that had begun as an intellectual one now scornfully pooh-poohed the need for people in government to know anything much at all...Instead, we rallied to Sarah Palin and Joe the Plumber.

    For these opinions, Frum has become a pariah within his own party who is regularly trashed on the right-wing blogs. You won’t find Frum on Fox News these days. The only media commentators who seek his opinion want to ask him about his critical views of the conservative movement. The Wall Street Journal, which had once lavished such praise on its former editor, editorialized, “Mr. Frum now makes his living as the media’s go-to basher of fellow Republicans, which is a stock Beltway role. But he’s peddling bad revisionist history that would have been even worse politics.” The American Enterprise Institute ended Frum’s fellowship days after his widely publicized (and denigrated) Waterloo column. While its president denied that the dismissal had anything to do with Frum’s article, the timing led analysts—and Frum himself—to conclude otherwise.


    Your Murdoch's WSJ quote: Frum is "peddling bad revisionist history". Oh...?..DG:

    ...For the Right (and their enablers in the media) The Past is where all their bodies are buried.  All the incriminating evidence is warehoused.  All the damning witnesses are queued up to rat them out.  And so the Past, as you and I know it, cannot be allowed to be.  It must eradicated and rewritten, repeatedly, faster and faster, because over the past few years the fresh victims of the Right's crime spree against democracy have been piled atop the rotting heap of their older treasons faster than the boys and girls at the Ministry of Conservative Truth can wish it, shout it and editorialize it out of existence.......


    Projection


    Frum is by far the most intellectually powerful voice of the conservative movement. Long before his participation in the never Trump movement and even before his ouster from the American Enterprise Institute I always read every article he wrote. What I find so interesting in the Trump era is Frum makes a more convincing and intellectually satisfying case about the harm Trump is doing to America than any liberal writer I read.


    I dunno.
    Whatever Frum says now will not separate him from his work promoting the war that has brought to fruition much of what he is complaining about now.
    If you are going to go Dylan on him, Masters of War would be the right song.
    Why do conservatives only talk sense when they admit to not being able to do jack shit about what is happening?


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