MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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Burning oil rig sinks, setting stage for big spill
By KEVIN McGILL and HOLBROOK MOHR, Associated Press Writers Kevin Mcgill And Holbrook Mohr, Associated Press Writers
NEW ORLEANS - A deepwater oil platform that burned for more than a day after a massive explosion sank into the Gulf of Mexico on Thursday, creating the potential for a major spill as it underscored the slim chances that the 11 workers still missing survived.
The sinking of the Deepwater Horizon, which burned violently until the gulf itself extinguished the fire, could unleash more than 300,000 of gallons of crude a day into the water. The environmental hazards would be greatest if the spill were to reach the Louisiana coast, some 50 miles away.
I sure am glad our oh-so-shrewd President decided to open up our eastern seaboard to offshore drillling aren't you? Excellent political manuever wasn't it? After all, it isn't like there's any undue risk involved. Right?
Riiiiiiiight!
Comments
OLEEB wins 'The dead bodies are still warm, Blame Obama Award' for this today.
(1) You might wait until the missing rig workers are declared dead, and the injured are out of critical care before rabidly leaping into the favorite pastime among some at TPM-the Dump on Obama Game.
(2)The workers died in a hazardous job trying to provide you and your fellow citizens oil and gas.
(3) If you knew anything about the rig that was destroyed, or the leases Obama opened, you would know that this rig was drilling at the limit of today's technology, 5,000 feet of water depth, at super high pressures, there are no depths that even come close to half this deep on the east coast.
(4) Shallower wells operate at lower pressure and are easier and safer to drill.
(5) If shallow continental abyssal plain areas (which Obama opened) were available the rig might not have even been in the deepest parts of the Gulf of Mexico.
by NobleCommentDecider (not verified) on Fri, 04/23/2010 - 4:38am
If you knew anything, you'd know that offshore drilling for oil is a bad idea at any depth.
Do I feel sorry for the dead? Of course, but the insane risk of working on an offshore platform goes with the territory. The environmental devastation caused by this unnecessary and entirely avoidable disaster is by far the more significant impact of this event. The point I've made in this post is very clear and if it offends your sense of Obama worship I really just don't care. Obama's compromising of my nation's environment for his own short term political gain offends me and he needs to be called out and condemned for his rotten decision to risk the spoiling of our oceans and shores with offshore drilling, not to mention his assinine support for nuclear power.
by oleeb (not verified) on Fri, 04/23/2010 - 5:25am
Being a centrist doesn't make one an extremist -- of the Left or the Right.
Appreciating and supporting President Obama, in an imperfect world in which hateful assholes such as you chew your thumbs down to nubs, does not constitute "worship" of anything or anyone.
Tip: the FIRST person INJURED by your hatefulness is Y-O-U.
by JNagarya (not verified) on Fri, 04/23/2010 - 9:39am
Happy Earth Day!
by readytoblowagasket (not verified) on Fri, 04/23/2010 - 1:39pm
Does it matter if there is no spill?
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/23/us/23rig.html?src=me
by Economides (not verified) on Fri, 04/23/2010 - 2:20pm
Good to see your blind support for Dear Leader continues unabated.
by oleeb (not verified) on Fri, 04/23/2010 - 2:35pm
The explosion of the oil platform wouldn't have happened if Hillary were President.
by JNagarya (not verified) on Fri, 04/23/2010 - 3:27pm
None of this would be happening if Hillary were President.
by JNagarya (not verified) on Fri, 04/23/2010 - 3:29pm
#1: What better way to honor the dead than to question the policies that led to the conditions of their death?
#2: I'd prefer they did a dangerous job providing me with wind energy, thanks. Anything that puts them out on these rigs instead of working on an alternative is bad both for the workers and America.
#3: Awards for the superfluous irrelevancy.
#4: Are you saying that such an accident (or an accident of a totally different nature).
#5: I know you aren't this stupid.
Obama's offshore drilling policy was one you and EVERY other person on this site opposed when it was a Bush policy. Don't embarrass yourself further, this is just pathetic. You should just go join the fucking republicans with your oil-lovin self.
by kgb999 (not verified) on Fri, 04/23/2010 - 3:57pm
Would the fact that we narrowly averted a full-on depression mean that there is no need to question our banking policy?
by kgb999 (not verified) on Fri, 04/23/2010 - 3:58pm
No. The lack of a continuing oil spill does not matter.
Obama has had more than a year to get the nation off its nasty habit of consuming 18 million barrels of oil a day. He has failed.
Any other conclusion is blind support of a failed Presidency.
by NobleCommentDecider (not verified) on Fri, 04/23/2010 - 3:59pm
you think there was no spill? In the article you link to, Admiral Landry is talking about currently there doesn't sppear to be more spilling. Here she is in another article:
Landry said crews first saw a 1-mile-by-5-mile rainbow sheen of what appeared to be a crude oil mix on the surface. That had expanded to 10 miles by 10 miles as of Friday morning, Ben-Iesau said.
Helton, of NOAA, said it is probably good that the sheen is spreading because it will be exposed to more waves and sunlight that will help break it down. But he said a wider area also means a greater chance that seabirds and marine mammals will be affected.
Overton said the sheen's distance from shore means the impact on wildlife is likely not widespread, although some seabirds that dive for food could become coated with oil.
The problem, Overton said, would be if thicker globs of oil reach coastal areas such as the Chandeleur islands, home to hatcheries for pelicans and other birds.
A turn in winds and currents might send oil toward fragile coastal wetlands – nurseries for fish and shrimp and habitat for birds.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/23/oil-rig-blast-prompts-env_n_549199.html
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But even in the article you link, they say:
look for more reports as the sunken rig is explored. Oil and Diesel were both spilled.
and let's note, this was exploration. The same activity the administration opened up on the east coast and new spots around Florida.
by Indie Pro (not verified) on Fri, 04/23/2010 - 4:07pm
damn, I was gonna paste more text from your article. but decided not to do it. So ignore the line, "But even in the article you link, they say:". It should've been deleted.
by Indie Pro (not verified) on Fri, 04/23/2010 - 4:08pm
Obama's offshore drilling policy was one you and EVERY other person on this site opposed when it was a Bush policy. Don't embarrass yourself further, this is just pathetic. You should just go join the fucking republicans with your oil-lovin self.
hear, hear.
by Indie Pro (not verified) on Fri, 04/23/2010 - 4:12pm
If you want to see 'pathetic' look in the mirror, KGB. You are the living, blogging embodiment of it.
I've looked at offshore oil platforms off the southern California coast for 30 years, and off Louisiana beaches for over 35 years. I could handle the same off Florida.
Unfortunately due to your fellow pick-up driving cowboys in Idaho (among other reasons), with the monster off road tires, our nation consumes twice the oil per unit GDP than Europe.
Your quest for instant gratification in our nation's energy profile will not happen in one or two terms. Own up to that fact and stop your whining.
Maybe the Republicans who run your state can raise your taxes to assist the local electric provider in building you some windmills.
by NobleCommentDecider (not verified) on Fri, 04/23/2010 - 4:14pm
Congratulations. This is one of the most fallacy-dense sentences I've encountered.
I don't think anyone is blaming Obama for the explosion. That is what we in the blogging trade call a straw man, oft employed by those who can't defend the shit policies of their idols. In this case the question is why we would expand offshore drilling, which has been known to have these dangers (and many lesser ones) both to life and the environment - when offshoring wind in the same areas would be far more effective and actually in line with the overarching objectives Obama articulated when he wasn't busy talking out of both sides of his mouth on this specific issue.
And lord knows what Hillary would have done, the Clintons are the original Democratic corporate whores. But this brings up another fallacious turd Obama sphincter-leeches can't avoid. Obama is responsible for his own actions. Period. Who the fuck cares what random politician [X] would have done? It must suck for someone who's only vision for America is polishing Obama's knob that he makes it almost impossible to defend his lame ass on merit.
by kgb999 (not verified) on Fri, 04/23/2010 - 4:14pm
your apologizing is unhinged, to say the least.
Oleeb doesn't blame the president for what heppened.
When the President opened up our eastern seaboard (and some new spots in Florida) to offshore drilling, many "constant Obama defenders" claimed it was safe, and no big deal, while many of us said that there is always risk, and it is a big deal. This highlights that concern, and the risks. Oleeb is drawing attention to that. I'm glad he is, because the issue is important to me.
But froth away.
by Indie Pro (not verified) on Fri, 04/23/2010 - 4:19pm
Another, potential and prbable, ecological disaster thanks to drilling. I guess people have short memories. Hell just transporting it can be hazardous enough. To increase any exploration is an exercise in complete lunacy. We need to be looking at developing alternative forms of energy and not poking more holes in the earth's crust. Offshore drilling represents unacceptable, and needless, threats to our oceans and coasts...
by Libertine (not verified) on Fri, 04/23/2010 - 4:52pm
I can't wait to find out what Obama tells you to believe tomorrow. Something tells me, no matter what issue, it likely won't match what you pretended to believe yesterday. But that won't keep you from believing it with all your heart.
As long as we keep pumping the oil, big trucks will keep burning it. You can't fault people who's homes, farms and recreational areas are indeed offroad for having the vehicles and tires required to operate in the environment. The only thing you can do is change the sources that drive those vehicles. Digging oil wells that won't produce for 30+ years instead of wind farms that will produce at peak capacity far more quickly simply doesn't accomplish this.
Obama is now making the intellectual case to keep on expanding coal and oil use indefinitely. This is implicit in the decision to expand production for the next generation in a seemingly irresponsible fashion. We should at least require oil companies work a high percentage of existing leases before we let them move into additional ecologically fragile environments ... or terminate their control of unused leases. They could tap the oil under Idaho and Wyoming with far less expense and risk than offshoring in the notoriously turbulent Atlantic. But the truth is Obama didn't sell our shores out for energy, he did it for politics because he's too big of a pussy to just fight. He himself has made it very clear that these sources won't produce a useful drop of oil for a generation - if that. In a generation we could largely be moved to a different source if there were the political will.
If you don't like the fuel consumption of the vehicles required to handle rural life, you should be pissed at Obama's policy, not Idaho. We'd drive big trucks if they ran on Electricity or H2 and be happy as a clam. Not giving us that option is a function of energy policy. So, does Obama's quest for more oil make it MORE likely we'll still be driving these things in a generation? Unquestionably. Good looking out.
P.S. Wind is required to make windmills work. Obviously, you know very little about the topic. Idaho isn't really ideal compared to many other locations (some of the best locations are areas Obama just opened to drilling BTW). Of course, that's why America handles energy policy on a national basis and has a power grid. It would make more sense to focus resources and grid expansion on the areas that provide the most bang for the buck. Ironic that libertarian-leaning red staters from Idaho now have a more firm grasp on the purpose and benefits of national policy than Obama-dumb Democrats.
by kgb999 (not verified) on Fri, 04/23/2010 - 5:15pm
True, but why do that when we can continue to take unnecessary risks and threaten the long term viability of the planet Lib? Happy Earth Day!
by oleeb (not verified) on Fri, 04/23/2010 - 6:45pm
LOL...yeah, Happy Earth Day oleeb. But I'm not sure the Earth is all that happy with humanity and is planning its revenge.
;^)
by Libertine (not verified) on Fri, 04/23/2010 - 6:58pm
Well that might be the case...but nobody, including the Coast Guard, is sure. I am not sure of the conversion but "1,135,600 litres of crude oil a day" sounds like on awful lot. Right now all we can do is keep our fingers crossed it isn't spilling.
by Libertine (not verified) on Fri, 04/23/2010 - 7:33pm
"But the truth is Obama didn't sell our shores out for energy, he did it for politics because he's too big of a pussy to just fight."
Well put!
by oleeb (not verified) on Fri, 04/23/2010 - 9:26pm
Wow! If I were you I'd get help for that humor deficiency.
by JNagarya (not verified) on Fri, 04/23/2010 - 9:42pm
The explosion of the oil platform wouldn't have happened if Hillary were President.
by JNagarya (not verified) on Fri, 04/23/2010 - 9:47pm
Humor deficiency?
After this idiot JNagarya repeats the same lame joke three times, he claims kgb has a "humor deficiency."
Get this through your pointy little head, imbecile!
Not everybody who criticizes Obama supported Hillary Clinton.
And JNagarya replies...
"Whut? Whut?"
"The explosion of the oil platform wouldn't have happened if Hillary were President!"
"Yuk yuk yuk yuk yuk!"
by Rutabaga Ridgepole (not verified) on Fri, 04/23/2010 - 10:25pm
Stuck in the summer of 08 are ya? Too bad for you.
by oleeb (not verified) on Sat, 04/24/2010 - 2:59am
I repeated it because I love rubbing it in the face of Hillary-"fans" who routionely, constantly -- and hatefully -- bash Obama with horseshit, and insult those who voted for Obama.
by JNagarya (not verified) on Sun, 04/25/2010 - 6:46am
No -- but those who are still stamping their feet and holding their breath because . . . IT'S ALL OBAMA'S FAULT! WWWWAAAAHHHHH!" are stuck there.
Thus the routine, hateful bashings of him, and insults against those who voted for him.
by JNagarya (not verified) on Sun, 04/25/2010 - 6:51am
Your mindless, blind loyalty is insulting even to yourself but you're too dumb to understand that. You're pitiful.
by oleeb (not verified) on Sun, 04/25/2010 - 3:53pm