The Liberaltarian demographic, ignored by political activists, analysts and pollsters at their peril

    I ran across this article from Nov. New Study Indicates Silicon Valley’s Elite Are Not As Liberal As They Think by @

    It reminded me of how geek world, since it's development, always seemed to tend to lean libertarian and therefore prone to prefer "third way" political solutions. With the polarization introduced by the Trump and similar populist movements, the lefty Democratic types seem to be getting hopeful that swings are coming over to their side and are thinking "oh boy, the DLC ways of thinking are dead, now we can finally go socialist." Um, but there's this Liberaltarian cohort out there, growing all the time. With lots of money. And a new kinda "don't like big gummint" and bureaucrats attitude. That will be swing supporters and voters if Dem candidates are too left. I've noted a thing watching Twitter over the last few months: even though this type may deplore Trump dolts and rural rubes, they also are very much prone to ridicule earnest lefty types like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. The Christian right and other socially conservative nutcases sector of the GOP may be dying out, but this group will be growing. And may be sympathetic to a lot ot "Freedom Caucus" type aims. Politicos ignore them at their peril.


    “Long before these people get involved in the tech industry and found their own companies, they already have these predispositions that are leading them to be more skeptical of regulation, yet are liberal otherwise,” Broockman said. In other words, the findings suggest those who eventually work in tech may share some common values and experiences with each other that lead them into the profession.

    This is not necessarily a new idea: The classic essay 1995 essay “The Californian Ideology” laid out the libertarian foundations of the tech industry, and Steven Johnson coined a term in Wired article this summer for the “liberal-not-liberal” tech-elite attitude, “Liberaltarianism.” Now we have some empirical evidence that this loose political affiliation extends to more than just the loudest and most prominent voices in tech. Broockman compared the political power of emerging tech elites to that of 19th-century railroad barons. “It’s no secret that the tech industry is immensely growing on all dimensions that would give them political power,” he said. “When you think about everything a politician is looking to in terms of where they are getting their voters, where they are getting their campaign donations, technology companies and those who found them and run them are in a position to exert a lot of power in politics.”

    For Broockman, the challenge this poses isn’t to the Republicans complaining about supposed liberal bias, but the Democrats who are forced to choose between different belief systems. “I think what the stage is set for is Democratic officeholders will really be pushed within the party and really be torn between interests from unions and more classic consitutientices on the one hand and what these technology entrepreneurs want them to do on the other."


    We should be winning these people over with legal pot!

    well it is a *popular* non-partisan idea, is it not? wink

    along those lines, this is fun:

    LEFTIES: We're proposing this big idea to shift the Overton Window

    ME: Actually, this is a pretty mainstream, center-left idea

    LEFTIES: Shut up you neoliberal scum

    ME: Wait, I thought you said you wanted to shift the Ov--


    — Noah Smith (@Noahpinion) January 10, 2019


    I hope you do not think this thought trite....

    But I recall when the Beetles discovered the British and US tax systems.



    oh I think about it often, one of the things I'll never forget from the shock of it: the countercultural heroes of my naive radical teen years fleeing 95% tax rate as they got rich. Here's one 2015 story I found that's a reminder of the sort of things going on: HOW THE ROLLING STONES, ROD STEWART AND DAVID BOWIE RAN FROM THE TAXMAN. But you know what's really funny about that, the way I recall it: it would be like Mick Jagger saying I can't handle these taxes no mo, but then you'd read oops, in trouble for drugs in the U.S., and then start wandering, no place to call home.laugh Another irony: John Lennon, once with Yoko, they stayed, became Americans, whatever the tax, called NY home--killed him....

    The Stones moved to France (where Wyman could be with his 14-year-old girls), and now Depardieu flees to Moscow. "It's the Time of the (Tax) Season for Loving" (what's your name, who's your daddy, is he rich like we?)

    Flicking the off switch to all the screaming, but at the same time thinking of running for mayor:

    Basically what happened with me. I'm done with all radicals

    — William Edmonson (@NeoLibertarian_) February 25, 2019

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