May be you can help with this Richard. I can see where slave -owners would bring their slaves with them. I can see slaves being forced to fire on Union troops. I wouldn't call those slaves Confederate soldiers. The Confederacy didn't recognize slaves or freeman as worthy of being soldiers until the last weeks of the war.

The single sour being used to justify the existence of black Confederate soldiers has produced flawed data. The data about Bull a Run was incomplete and did not include the information about those who were forced to fight.

There is tons of data of slaves and freedmen running to Union lines. Why is this idea of willing black Confederate soldiers so hard to kill? 

Are we talking about some possibly mentally ill people who thought that fighting for the Confederacy was a good idea?

Here is one comment about Jordan's book

The most controversial parts of the book are in the second half ("Give Us a Flag") and deal with black Virginians who served the Confederate cause either by taking up arms in its defense or voluntarily supporting the white soldiers who did. As have many other authors (including Confederate apologists who continue to deny that the Civil War and the Confederacy were essentially about slavery and racism), Jordan cites numerous anecdotes about black Virginians fighting with Rebel forces or serving as cooks, teamsters, servants, musicians, laborers, and in other noncombatant roles in the Confederate armies and government. He also supplies a fair amount of anecdotal evidence for a deep split among white Southerners over the propriety of arming slaves. Even as the Confederacy was sliding to destruction in the spring of 1865, many whites were adamantly opposed to the tardy steps taken by the Confederate congress to organize black fighting units. This ongoing opposition from all corners of the Confederacy -- not to mention the overall pattern of racism and subjugation of blacks in Civil War America -- calls into serious question the value of the anecdotal evidence often cited to "prove" widespread African-American support for the Southern cause, because it implies widespread white gratitude for this support. Examining this topic alone would have been a worthwhile book. As other reviewers here state, Jordan could have done a much more thorough job in testing this anecdotal evidence.

http://www.amazon.com/Confederates-Afro-Yankees-Virginia-Nation-Divided/...

Jordan writes about nonexistent troops. He says two units of Black Confederates fought in Mannassas. Black soldiers never fought for the Confederacy. In 1924, Virginia agreed to pay blacks who had served the Confederacy $25 a year, body these were body servants, etc. When the Confederacy did finally agree to enlisting blacks, the war was over. No black Confederate troops. Took the battlefield. There were no black Confederate soldiers. What am I missing? People still seem to be arguing that they existed.

Yep the armed blacks would have killed the Confederates.

You cam into the discussion believing that there were many black Confederate soldiers. You leave believing that there were some black Confederate soldiers. I took the for granted that there were black Confederate soldier. After reading more about the Civil War, I found numerous skeptics and people willing to lie about the Confederacy. Multiple sources question if blacks fought willingly for the Confederacy. You found one who indicates that there is a possibility that they may have fought for CSA.

I found a slave who describes the circumstances at Bull Run. I found actual black Union soldiers .i found slaves who ran to the Union lines. You find one source. I note that the source has provided flawed information. You stand by your source. It should be noted that Ervan Jordan helped singer Lionel Richie "confirm" that an ancestor fought for the Confederacy. This confirmation is disputed.

http://cwmemory.com/2011/03/05/lionel-ritchies-black-confederate-ancestor/

You see Jordan is reliable. I see him as questionable. I can point to actual troops who fought for the Union and you have ........... Jordan. I think my argument is stronger. Could there have been pathetic, cowardly, and possibly impaired slaves who willingly fought for the Union? Yes. I just have not seen concrete proof they exist. You point out one guy who said he was going to kill Yankees, but we have no idea if he fought anywhere.

So again I will state the were no Black Confederates. There were no black Confederates authorized to fight for the Confederacy. Given that there were uniformed Union Colored Troops, there was no equivalent in the Confederacy. Ervan Jordan has no concrete evidence that there were troops recognized by the rebel government of the Confederacy.

I came from accepting black Confederates to being a skeptic. You still believe in Black Confederate troops

BTW the point isn't that I think that Ervan Jordan is a charlatan. Although out of all the tomes on the Civil War Jordan is the only one you found that that remotely supports your view of black Confederates. He finds lots of them anecdotally. The point is that there is no argument for a slave to freely fight for the Confederacy because the slave wasn't free to act on his own wishes.

If we are going to hold fast to the fantasy of black Confederates, what is the reason they fought for the Confederacy?

They loved whites so much they we willing to die for them

They were fighting for freedom 

They loved being in bondage.