MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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By Julian Borger and Richard Norton-Taylor, Guardian.co.uk, March 9, 2011
British special forces in Afghanistan have intercepted an Iranian shipment of rockets to the Taliban that would have allowed them to double the range of their attacks, western diplomats have said.
The rockets were discovered after an intelligence tip-off on 5 February when British special forces and Afghan troops stopped a convoy in Nimruz province, in the south-west of Afghanistan bordering Iran and Pakistan, the officials said. A shoot-out involving the special forces left several Taliban fighters dead.
The vehicles were found to be carrying 48 122mm rockets, which western sources described as "substantial weapons" with a range of more than 12 miles. A diplomat with knowledge of the arms shipment said that was double the range of the usual Taliban weapons....
Comments
I call bullshit. For starters, the Iranian regime and the Taliban have nothing in common; they hate each other. Shiite extremists and Sunni extremists don't play well together.
Second, this event supposedly occurred in Afghanistan's Nimruz province, where the population is majority Baloch. The West is funding Sunni rebels in Iranian Balochistan who would be the natural allies of the Afghan Taliban. If they are getting arms and training in Iran, that's whom they're getting them from, not the Revolutionary Guard.
Third, even the Brits admit the missiles are Soviet-era design, i.e. exactly the kind of 30-year-old crap Afghanistan is littered with. What supposedly makes them Iranian is their "unique" green fuse plug. Give me a break!
Does anyone else remember the shaped-charge IEDS the American military found in Iraq that had to come from Iran because of their sophisticated design and manufacture? Then they captured an Iraqi factory that was clearly turning out the things? Oops.
Like I said, bullshit.
by acanuck on Thu, 03/10/2011 - 3:34am
Iran, Afghanistan, Britain, and the U.S. all have security, military, and intelligence services that will, and do, lie their asses off at every opportunity. They work hard to create the opportunities to lie. The truth, at this point, is impossible for us to know, but we can know how to bet if we believe in odds. I bet with you. The story is almost surely pure BS, or at least tainted by a thick layer.
by A Guy Called LULU on Thu, 03/10/2011 - 10:40am
Had this story been published by Fox News, I wouldn't have given it a second glance.
But it wasn't, it was by Julian Borger of The Guardian. He has a bit experience around this sort of into., here for example was something he wrote in July 2003:
The spies who pushed for war
Julian Borger reports on the shadow rightwing intelligence network set up in Washington to second-guess the CIA and deliver a justification for toppling Saddam Hussein by force
by artappraiser on Thu, 03/10/2011 - 3:47pm
Borger (and his co-author Richard Norton-Taylor) appear capable of careful, well-researched work. But reread this particular article. It is pure stenography ("Foreign Secretary William Hague said this, European diplomats said that, unnamed British officials added something else ... .") All reported uncritically, as if they didn't think the story was worth critical examination. Almost as if the authors didn't believe the claims either, but felt (lacking countervailing evidence) there was no point making an issue of them. I've edited quite a few newspaper articles in my life; trust me, even normally good reporters make that kind of judgment call.
by acanuck on Thu, 03/10/2011 - 4:41pm
acanut, you are faster and much more concise.
by A Guy Called LULU on Thu, 03/10/2011 - 5:46pm
"acanut" ... I like that! ;-)
by quinn esq on Thu, 03/10/2011 - 7:08pm
Tide goes out -- no misunderstanding there.
by acanuck on Thu, 03/10/2011 - 7:15pm
by A Guy Called LULU on Thu, 03/10/2011 - 5:45pm
Since Britain is more than 12 miles from Afghanistan, the Homeland is safe. If NATO just exits the place the locals can resume fighting each other. In fact, with all the suicide bombings in Pakistan it's occurred to me that if one of the Pakistani nukes got 'loose' and into the wrong hands, extremists would likely use it almost immediately, to settle a local grudge (near an Army compound, but taking out 1/2 a city in the process).
by NCD on Thu, 03/10/2011 - 11:09am
Now for some real news: Brits tell the majority of their 10,000 troops on active duty in Afghanistan that, when they rotate home, they should start looking for news jobs:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/onthefrontline/8355902/British-troops-on-front-line-in-Afghanistan-told-they-face-the-sack.html
Some official warns the news might harm morale. Ya think?
by acanuck on Thu, 03/10/2011 - 7:36pm