MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE by Michael Wolraich Order today at Barnes & Noble / Amazon / Books-A-Million / Bookshop |
As the nuclear talks with Iran enter the final stretch, and as the media coverage reaches the point of hysteria, it is useful to step back a bit and offer a few observations about how to approach the kinds of revelations and arguments that we might expect in the coming days or weeks.
Here are five things to watch out for.
Comments
by A Guy Called LULU on Wed, 04/01/2015 - 1:09pm
and you know this, how?
Did the ayatollahs say trust us? We really didn't mean, to take your people hostage?
Why wouldn't Iran have sought an advantage in the War with Iraq?
America supposedly saved millions of lives, dropping two bombs in Japan
by Resistance on Wed, 04/01/2015 - 7:16pm
Actually, according to CNN, they have approximately 10,000 centrifuges operating (out of 18,000 total). See also this bit from Politifact.
by Verified Atheist on Thu, 04/02/2015 - 9:32am
There is no contradiction of possibilities or alleged facts to say that 23 years ago Iran had no centrifuges and that now they have a lot of them. The Politifact article though is indeed interesting and presents a scenario I have not seen addressed elsewhere.
I do believe that monitoring of known enrichment sites would be, already is, stringent enough to identify any move towards breakout and that any attempt to produce weapons grade material secretly would need entirely new secret facilities. That would be a great risk to Iran which, if discovered as it almost certainly would be, would remove any doubt as to their ultimate intentions and would almost certainly result in a joint U.S. and Israel military response. That would be a risk which I doubt Iran would feel the need to take if they were experiencing the relief that an agreement would provide them. I suspect that a reason, not the only reason, Iran has pursued nuclear development the way they have is to create a bargaining chip which they are willing to give up in a bargain but if that is a tactic it creates a game of chicken which will probably force them to try for a bomb if the negotiations fail. Iran has their hawks and no doubt their fair share of chicken hawks playing political gamesmanship too. Failure to come to an agreement with Iran would be, IMO, a sad and tragic slip-slide towards a military attack on them and the possible results of that are cataclysmic. We cannot, IMO, keep on trying to rule the world with military interventions or the threat of same without eventually bringing down our own house. The chances any real attempt to forge a cooperative peace entail are worth taking when the sure fire result of constant war is that we will eventually lose.
Thanks for those links.
by A Guy Called LULU on Thu, 04/02/2015 - 10:32am
Yes, even though I put that quote in there, somehow I misread it to say that there were no centrifuges now, and not that there were no centrifuges 23 years ago. It's funny (and shows in general how ignorant I am on the political situation) that I was actually looking for a link supporting that (non-)assertion (that there are currently no centrifuges in Iran) and how we have the technology to find them. Once I read it that way, my mind never saw what it actually said, even after I'd found links pointing out how wrong it was.
by Verified Atheist on Sun, 04/05/2015 - 6:39pm
What do you mean WE, Kimosabe
“Care about what other people think
and you will always be their prisoner.”
― Lao Tzu
Remember:
First came the League of Nations and it was done away with, then came The United Nations.
The only thing going to be done away with in the next program governing Earths affairs; is our freedoms and liberties. OBEY or else.
by Resistance on Sun, 04/05/2015 - 7:38pm