MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE by Michael Wolraich Order today at Barnes & Noble / Amazon / Books-A-Million / Bookshop |
Five years ago, my husband and I bought a house in the emptiest county in America. There are three types of people in our rural area: amateur astronomers, ranchers, and illegal aliens. If you climb the mountains behind our house and look south, you look into Mexico. If you climb those mountains to the top, you are on one of the major drug trafficking routes into America. If you stay in the desert at the foot of the mountains, you are in rattlesnake country—the greatest biodiversity of rattlers in America, and the night path of illegal aliens.
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You put the wrong link (not that the "woke sportswriter" one isn't ,er, interesting, too). The intro you pasted sounded so good, I googled for the correct link, it's here:
https://amgreatness.com/2018/05/18/outside-the-defensible-perimeter/
by artappraiser on Sun, 05/27/2018 - 7:52pm
done reading it now, and the *surprise, surprise* part is right here in her bio at the end, who'd thunk it that she'd be one saying "enough is enough" about southern border illegal immigration?
Edit to add: I have googled her now as well. She is most definitely that, and a well published author, with books on safari in Africa and such. But also appears to be so much the independent thinker, that she has actually defended some things Trump has said, to the point where some liberal bloggers have seen conspiracy, i.e.:who is paying Karin McQuillan to write in agreement with some conservatives?
Gawd I hate that kind of partisanship....
by artappraiser on Sun, 05/27/2018 - 7:59pm
Thanks for the correction. Not sure how I made the error but it's corrected now.
I posted this article because I want to dispute it. By her account she is talking about the area I live in or some miles east or west of my home. But my, and everyone I know, experiences of illegal immigrants and smugglers is totally different than her's. I doubt her account. I'll write more of my experiences with illegals near the border later tonight.
by ocean-kat on Sun, 05/27/2018 - 8:10pm
good, look forward to anything you might have to say on it whenever you get around to it.
by artappraiser on Sun, 05/27/2018 - 8:13pm
I wish you had made a note of your dissension in your original posting of the article - I was wondering why you didn't since I couldn't imagine that you agreed.
by barefooted on Sun, 05/27/2018 - 8:26pm
I don't do that barefooted. I put up an article I think worth discussing whether I agree or disagree. I always let it sit for a few hours before I comment because I want people to consider it alone without my opinions first.
by ocean-kat on Sun, 05/27/2018 - 10:44pm
Do you think that adding your opinion to a piece that you obviously have one about (simply based on our experience with you) might add flavor to our experience while reading it? We're also more likely to respond - though sometimes you're right that "percolating" helps to season it, as well.
by barefooted on Sun, 05/27/2018 - 10:52pm
Why prejudice the outcome? If lucky someone like me'll come along, disagree, and we'll have a knock down drag-out argument. Otherwise it's a bunch of "good article, OK", which isn't half the fun.
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 05/28/2018 - 12:05am
But if you disagree with an article that the poster also disagrees with, what creates the fight? Besides, fights between Daggers over news pieces usually happen when two or more start coloring outside the lines. 'Course that's also what sometimes fleshes out the substance of the original point, and can sometimes create the best dialog (or it can devolve into the same-old-same-old, which is tedious).
by barefooted on Mon, 05/28/2018 - 8:57pm
I'm not saying mine is the right way just what I prefer. I'd rather people form their own opinions first. I usually get my comment up in a couple of hours. As Arta and others have said, posting an article "in the news" doesn't mean we agree with it or endorse it. It only means we think it's worth discussing.
by ocean-kat on Mon, 05/28/2018 - 12:22am
I just like people to participate however they want to, either way or anything inbetween.
Also, I recall that Wolraich told me long ago that he created the little section as a place for people to basically just dump a link that they found interesting when they didn't have a lot of time. That he wasn't expecting commentary, that he intended people to use the "Blog Now" section for that. So there was that past intent.
Myself, what I don't like is having to defend posting something when I don't feel like defending it, just want to point it out. Because I'd rather spend time analyzing than opining. Actually, I rarely like to share my political opinions, feel like: that's private! On the other hand, I'll share cultural opinions galore, because they don't have as many moral associations. I really enjoy figuring out things with group input, though.
by artappraiser on Mon, 05/28/2018 - 12:45am
Wonder if Michael still feels that way. ;-)
If you look at the site, most of the conversation seems to be driven by the news articles, as opposed to reader/masthead blogs. That's both good and bad, in my opinion.
by barefooted on Mon, 05/28/2018 - 9:05pm
I actually agree for the most part, as evidenced by the fact that while I'll include quotes I don't always offer opinions on what I post. I guess my question to you on this particular news item was because it was so obviously not something you agreed with that it seemed odd that you didn't address that immediately. But it was just a query that you answered ... thanks!
by barefooted on Mon, 05/28/2018 - 9:02pm
Partisanship is all over the place on that site, which makes it difficult for me to take her article as anything but.
"Woke Sports Writers At It Again", and "NeverTrump Sides With Porn Stars, Dictators and Gang Members". A particularly interesting one is "Great Men, Black Swans, and the End of the Mandarins", should you feel inclined to read about how, "One of the worst ideas in American history has been the establishment of schools of government and the professionalization of the Washington press corps."
I mean no offense to her point of view, as she lives there and I don't. Beyond that? Meh.
by barefooted on Sun, 05/27/2018 - 8:23pm
Partisanship, did you note the site is American Greatness, and they have lead articles on Hillary's deplorables, Trump will get a NK deal done and "FBI Shenanigans"?
by NCD on Sun, 05/27/2018 - 8:48pm
I live 3 miles from the Mexican border along one of the major drug and immigrant trails in Arizona. The border patrol considers this trail important enough that all 3 of the roads north have border patrol check points manned 24/7. No one living in this area can travel north on any route without being stopped and your vehicle being visually searched and sniffed by a drug dog.
There's not really a clear liberal position on illegal immigration. I know some liberals that want open borders and would like to help the immigrants get north. Most don't want open borders but will help with food and water simply because they don't think people should die in the desert. I don't want open borders but will give immigrants food and water. I'd like to see some form of comprehensive immigration reform.
I've seen smugglers come through and I've seen them arrested by the BP. I've seen immigrants as I've hiked the mountains and I've seen them arrested. I've had immigrants come to my house looking for water and food. I've never been attacked and I've never been afraid. Twice in the last 7 years I'm come home from a trip to town and found food missing. I have guns in plain sight leaning against a wall in the corner and they were never taken. No one ever took my clothes.
I hike almost every day and usually when Mexicans see me they run or hide. I'm sure the first thought in their head is, "We're spotted. He's gonna call the cops. Run." I've seen men with bales of pot on their backs running up the mountain as soon as they spotted me.
I know people who are scared of the immigrants and smugglers. I understand how a women living alone can be scared when men are walking past her house at night or knocking on her door begging for water. But I don't know anyone who has been attacked, kidnapped, tied up. If it happened in the 7 years I've been here I'd know. People in small towns of 700 people gossip about everyone. The town has a small local newspaper. If there were attacks etc. in this small community it would be in the paper
This article is fear mongering at it's worst. I'm sure there's a rare attack along the border of an innocent home owner but dozens? I don't believe it. If McQuillan's story was even half true the border patrol would flood the area with so many cops they'd shut down all illegal traffic in that area. While in times of over crowding the BP might release some immigrant I don't believe for one second they'd release someone found with a gun, in less then 2 hours. She hits all the points with her reference to the "Somali," an oblique implication that Muslim terrorists are coming from Mexico to blow something up.
The article is garbage. I'd have to see some real evidence and authoritative sources to even start to consider it. I simply don't believe a word of it. It's lies like this that stoke the rage of the Trump voters.
by ocean-kat on Sun, 05/27/2018 - 10:47pm
Thanks for you story, however publishing your experiences will not fulfill our fear and hate promotion objectives.
Editors at American Greatness, MAGA!
1 Forde's militia group, the "Minutemen American Defense," which patrolled Arizona's border with Mexico. When they found no drugs, the intruders took inexpensive jewelry and fatally shot 29-year-old Raul Flores, Jr., and his daughter, nine-year-old Brisenia Ylianna Flores...Brisenia was a third-grade student at the Sopori Elementary......Forde and Bush were sentenced to death...
2 Chris Simcox gained notoriety as a founder of an Arizona border militia but he now faces child-molestation charges.....Simcox was convicted and sentenced to two concurrent sentences of 17 years....
by NCD on Sun, 05/27/2018 - 11:26pm
Yeah, when people here talk about the danger on the border we talk about Forde's militia group and the murders they committed in our little town. It happened a few years before I got here. While most don't like the illegals and smugglers coming through they're not seen by most as dangerous
by ocean-kat on Mon, 05/28/2018 - 12:10am
Keep safe and close to God, being a Democrat I could care less about crime, and support terrorists and open horders, but you might watch through your telescope for the black ones-their the worst-
Oh, and if you see Karin, the least populated county is in Hawaii, and the second least in Texas.....
I note the same screed is posted at Realclearpolitics.
by NCD on Mon, 05/28/2018 - 2:44am
A good read, ocean, thank you for it. I don't find it remotely surprising since the real world reality is often best found among the people in the real world. You're one of them, and your voice is not only appreciated but necessary.
Curious - does your small, local paper have a website?
by barefooted on Mon, 05/28/2018 - 9:12pm