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The Rise of Asian Americans; Meet the New Immigrants

Pew Research Center, released June 19, 2012

Overview

Asian Americans are the highest-income, best-educated and fastest-growing racial group in the United States. They are more satisfied than the general public with their lives, finances and the direction of the country, and they place more value than other Americans do on marriage, parenthood, hard work and career success, according to a comprehensive new nationwide survey by the Pew Research Center [....]

A century ago, most Asian Americans were low-skilled, low-wage laborers crowded into ethnic enclaves and targets of official discrimination. Today they are the most likely of any major racial or ethnic group in America to live in mixed neighborhoods and to marry across racial lines.[....]

These milestones of economic success and social assimilation have come to a group that is still majority immigrant. Nearly three-quarters (74%) of Asian-American adults were born abroad; of these, about half say they speak English very well and half say they don’t.

Asians recently passed Hispanics as the largest group of new immigrants to the United States. The educational credentials of these recent arrivals are striking [....]

Read the full article at http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2012/06/19/the-rise-of-asian-americans/

MORE LINKS:

Report Read the full report

Graphics View the key findings from the survey

Maps Explore Asian American state and county population data

Video The Rise of Asian Americans Event

Explore Pew Research Center’s comprehensive report on Asian Americans, which examines population trends, education, income and values of this important group. Our detailed analysis provides new insight about Chinese Americans, Filipino Americans, Indian Americans, Vietnamese Americans, Korean Americans and Japanese Americans. Watch the video of our panel discussion held with prominent Asian American scholars. Dive into our interactive population maps. View and share our curated graphic summaries.

Follow the discussion about this report and more on Twitter @pewresearch #asianamericans and on Facebook.

 

As long as they're legal.

Being as smart as this article implies, maybe they can take away the jobs of the big CEO's in this country?

Maybe they'll do it for less money? 

A day or two ago, I heard a program on NPR (can't find which one, unfortunately--spent about 20 minutes looking and gave up)

talking about how Asian immigrants are interested in and are taking the high tech back room jobs that a lot of Americans aren't interested in. That Americans who go into high tech, who have spent the time and money getting educated in that area, do so wanting the "front room" jobs like in marketing, and aren't interested in doing things like crunching code in cubicles 10 hours a day.  That this is the crux of many complaints you read/hear from corporations about not being able to fill certain necessary jobs with Americans. That it isn't so much about pay, it's about the type of jobs Americans educated in the area want and train for, whereas Asian foreigners trained in this "back room" stuff are precisely looking for and happy with jobs in the same.

I  have noticed a somewhat similar divide in medicine, where the behind the scenes MD's like anesthesiologists and radiologists so often seem to be Asian immigrants.

As for rich immigrant CEO's, both Asian and Hispanic, there are some, but the ones I've read of aren't taking other CEOs' jobs; they are creating their own and jobs for others at the same time:

Moving to U.S. and Amassing a Fortune, No English Needed
By Kirk Semple, New York Times, November 8, 2011

[....] Mr. Sanchez has lived the great American success story. He turned a business selling tortillas on the street into a $19 million food manufacturing empire that threaded together the Mexican diaspora from coast to coast and reached back into Mexico itself.

Mr. Sanchez is part of a small class of immigrants who arrived in the United States with nothing and, despite speaking little or no English, became remarkably prosperous. And while generations of immigrants have thrived despite language barriers, technology, these days, has made it easier for such entrepreneurs to attain considerable affluence.

Many have rooted their businesses in big cities with immigrant populations large enough to insulate them from everyday situations that demand English. After gaining traction in their own communities, they have used the tools of modern communication, transportation and commerce to tap far-flung resources and exploit markets in similar enclaves around the country and the world.

“The entire market is Hispanic,” Mr. Sanchez said of his business. “You don’t need English.” A deal, he said, is only a cheap long-distance phone call or a few key strokes on the computer away. “All in Spanish,” he added [....]

In New York City, successful non-English-speaking entrepreneurs like Mr. Sanchez have emerged from the largest immigrant populations, including those from China, South Korea and Spanish-speaking countries.

Among them is Zhang Yulong, 39, who emigrated from China in 1994 and now presides over a $30-million-a-year cellphone accessories empire in New York with 45 employees.

Kim Ki Chol, 59, who arrived in the United States from South Korea in 1981, opened a clothing accessories store in Brooklyn and went on to become a successful retailer, real estate investor and civic leader in the region’s Korean diaspora.

In the United States in 2010, 4.5 million income-earning adults who were heads of households spoke English “not well” or “not at all,” according to the Census Bureau; of those, about 35,500 had household incomes of more than $200,000 a year

Nancy Foner, a sociology professor at the City University of New York who has written widely on immigration, said it was clear that modern technology had made a big difference in the ability of immigrant entrepreneurs with poor or no English skills to expand their companies nationally and globally. [....]

Asians also tend to be very, very conservative.

And white people tend to make generalizations.

Asians actually vote more D than R. The Pew study confirms this both in political affiliation and recent voting trends.

White people are actually more conservative than Asians, if politics has anything to do with it.

I could agree that many Asians (though certainly not all) are "old school" conservative, meaning careful with money, law abiding, concerned with reputations, etc.

Do you think those descriptors do not apply to white people?  This reminds me of some of the more embarrassingly retrograde comments about Jews that have hit this blog.

If you asked me to describe white people in general, I wouldn't lead with old school conservative values. Some are, of course, but I know too many that spend every nickel they make, routinely flout laws and go out of their way to piss people off. I can't think of any of the Asians I know or meet that strike me that way. I'm sure some are out there getting blotto and puking on the sidewalk, but it isn't what I've seen.

I just think describing an ethnic group in terms of criminality or penuriousness inescapably calls to mind all sorts of stereotypes about Jews, blacks, Latinos, and goes back to the font that white people are teh neutral that lacks characteristics, and that white folks are historically and most often those ascribing traits to (these) groups. 

Which is only fair, since white people lack traits, what with being the neutral baseline for reality and all.  Put another way, the enterprise of a comment, "Asians are X" is irremediably wrong as a form of political commentary.  It doesn't improve with "I observe that Asians are X."

Quite a waste of a really good link from artappraiser that provides actual facts that illustrate the diversity and different positions and views among Asians and subgroups of Asians.

So if I was to opine, "Asian Americans ... place more value than other Americans do on marriage, parenthood, hard work and career success," that would be offensive stereotyping? Because I just read that somewhere.

If you want to parse survey data about what Asians say they value, that to me is listening and not stereotyping. 

Talking without data about whether a group is more or less criminal or more or less cheap is stereotyping, and implicitly legitimizes other folks talking that way.

My data is my observation. I frequently write here about my observations. If you don't want to hear my observations, take my name off the masthead and I'll do something else.

What I like about Pew is that one of the things they specialize in is attempting to find out in a scientific manner whether all of our anecdotals, conventional wisdoms, cherry-picking,  assumptions and prejudices are true or false or something inbetween. And they are also often transparent about possible downsides to their methods.

That's what I like about Pew?

Reminds me of some lines from Michael Moore's "Stupid White People".

I'm still pissed we disowned him & sidelined him into liberals' running joke.

What? I never got that memo.

I think Michael Moore is one of the best.

Did something happen to diminish his power?

Yes, many Democrats accepted the Republican argument that he's "too extreme", and they started rejecting & ignoring him as fringe to show that they were the grownup centrists who knew how to behave.

Michael Moore wasn't part of the big tent in 2008, and columns like this give an idea that he's sunk further since:

http://extremeliberal.wordpress.com/2011/11/04/with-friends-like-michael...

Of course from everything from Sicko to opening spaces for high schoolers to blog to supporting unions, he's provocative, creative, brilliant, practical. (didn't Sicko give a big push for why universal health care was an imperative?)

But like Soros, he's now off the reservation. Warren Buffet's our new go-to-guy, fits in better with the Wall Street crowd and their country clubs.

I do not believe I said anything about how they vote or mentioned politics at all. I simply siad they are very conservative.

 

conservative

con·serv·a·tive

[kuhn-sur-vuh-tiv] Show IPA
adjective
1.
disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change.
2.
cautiously moderate or purposefully low: a conservative estimate.
3.
traditional in style or manner; avoiding novelty or showiness: conservative suit.

 

You might also add that voting D does not automatically mean Liberal or Progressive --- anymore, at least fiscally.

I naturally understood you to be referring to the suits Asians wear, so never fear, the plain meaning of your comment was not lost. 

Others less savvy than myself might have read a political context into your comment, since you write political blogs at FDL and here, which are themselves almost exclusively political blogs, and the Pew piece about which you were commenting discussed the politics of Asian-Americans.

Well I try to stay away from the US vs THEM perspective these days and concentrate more on the context and historical significance. It's far more interesting.

It took me awhile, but I still think you should just post the damn blog. hahahaha

I blogged about this subject years ago. Sort of.

I worked at the Education Library at the U of M a hundred years ago on a work study program.

Now we have scanners, but back then I was the scanner!

I would work a shift until 11 PM when we closed and at 11:01 the engineering portion of our library would all file out. And I swear to Almighty God that every single person filing out of the library was Asian.

It was astounding to me in 1968 just as I am astounded today.

Am I astounded that the Chinese and the Japanese and the Koreans are doing so well right now?

NO!

Surely a bit of higher-level cogitation and free-thinking individual effort on behalf of we white people will enable us to come up with a scheme to set these here Asiatics at the throats of them there Hispanishes. After all White America, we didn't make it to the top of Phylum Rodentia by playing nicey-nicey - and none of you seem the types to take too kindly to eatin' from cans. But if you wanna stay King Rat, you gotta PLAY like King Rat.

To whit. Time to pull up your knee-high sweat socks and wipe off the Euro-tan from a can, America. Welcome (back) to the working week. Herewith, a plan:

1st step: Brick up that border, stave in the docks, and cut off the foreigners supply lines.

2ndly: I wanna see every UFC fight you broadcast for the next 15 years set up as Korean fella v. a Dominican. Then China v. Mexico. Followed by Thailand v. Jamaicalahara.

After all, how do you think we taught our children to hate the Germans? WRESTLING. Cause it damn sure wasn't Hogan's Heroes.

There we go. A plan. But Jesus, people. Do I have to do all the heavy lifting myself?

Nine Seventy Nine or Fight!

If we are gonna seal off border.

Fuggedaboudit ya canuck, NYC sports fans are way ahead of yas, the salsa dancer and the Linsanity are so yesterday, in da trash can, the new "black" is a born-again Christian white guy who wanted to be an English professor when he grew up (but looks kinda like the Kenny Powers character on HBO)....

Wiki say:

Majored in English Literature. Missing a ligament in his elbow. Sexually abused as a kid. Tenneseean. Born again Christian. Carries around Yann Martel and Hemingway. Learns to throw the knuckler, gives up 6 home runs in his first start. Age 37, it all clicks, develops a major league career.

See, now that's a PROPER storyline. America needs more white people like him.

LEARN TO THROW KNUCKLERS, WHITE AMERICA!

YOU GOT NO HEAT LEFT, THE ARM'S GOT A LOT OF HARD INNINGS ON IT, AND THERE'S NOBODY WARMING UP IN THE BULLPEN.

FLOAT LIKE A BUTTERFLY, STING LIKE A BEE!

One of the key stats here is that 74% of Asian-Americans were born abroad.  Asian traditional cultures tend to be more conservative than your general liberal Western cultures in the sense that Asian cultures tend to subsume the individual into the group rather than putting the individual on the pedestal.  My guess is when one looks at the second and third generation Asian Americans, they are more Western than Asian in their outlook.

The Asian cultures don't value family more than Western cultures, but rather have a difference in understanding the dynamics and roles of the family and the various individuals within it.  The implications on the formation of identity and views of individual freedom and expression is what leads to some to view Asian-Americans (those who are more culturally tied to their Asian culture heritage) as being more conservative than less. 

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One thing I noticed about the survey that caught my eye is that it includes those from India as being Asian-American.  This is as should be, but I think many if not most Americans when they see the phrase "Asian-American" think of those who family is from China, Japan, Korea, Vietnam, etc. 

It's weird, as it compares a people descend from a single Iberian country with unrelated peoples with unrelated language from a wide swath of the largest continent & islands (includes Filipino, Thai, Vietnamese, Indian, Chinese, Japan - presumably Burma, Malay, Indonesia, Sri Lanka, Bhutan, Laos & Nepal count as well)

And at 5.8% of total population for these 20 or more countries/ethnic groups, it's a resounding "who cares?" Trying to create a unified demographic out of all of these is pretty silly, but Pew does its best anyway. "Asians love their mothers - and rice". There, it's established. Funny they didn't ask about Euthanasia as long as they were on a roll.

If you read the report, you can see they are not attempting to create an unified demographic. 

A little example:

There are subgroup differences in social and cultural realms as well. Japanese and Filipino Americans are the most accepting of interracial and intergroup marriage; Koreans, Vietnamese and Indians are less comfortable. Koreans are the most likely to say discrimination against their group is a major problem, and they are the least likely to say that their group gets along very well with other racial and ethnic groups in the U.S. In contrast, Filipinos have the most upbeat view of intergroup relations in the U.S.

Moreover, they were comparing Asian-American immigrants with immigrants from other areas of the world.  Of course, this means comparing one group which is quite diverse, with other large groups, each which are diverse.  At some point, the generalizations become meaningless.  But there is some value in comparing large groups.

For instance, one can do a comparison between Mid-West Americans and their politics with the politics of Northeast Americans.  There are some generalizations one can make from the findings, but it is not going to give the whole story.  To disregard the information value of the findings it does generate simply because it doesn't tell the whole story or capture all of the nuances is just plain stupid.

The survey doesn't mention Central Asians (Kazakhs, Kyrgyzs, Tajiks, Turkmens or Uzbeks), or even Russians. I could believe that there are very few Central Asian immigrants. Russian accents are quite numerous around my community pool, though, so I wonder if most of them are Euro-Russians.

As they state:

The Pew Research Center survey was designed to contain a nationally representative sample of each of the six largest Asian-American groups by country of origin—Chinese Americans, Filipino Americans, Indian Americans, Vietnamese Americans, Korean Americans and Japanese Americans. Together these groups comprise at least 83% of the total Asian population in the U.S.

So the target of the study was on these specific groups because of their representative size in this country. 

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