MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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The outcome is likely to affect the legal case of the Washington Redskins, whose trademark registration was revoked in 2014 under the same disparagement clause.
By Robert Barnes @ WashingtonPost.com, 36 mins. ago
[....] Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr. delivered the opinion for a largely united court. He said the law could not be saved just because it evenhandedly prohibits disparagement of all groups.
“In the sense relevant here, that is viewpoint discrimination,” Alito wrote. “Giving offense is a viewpoint.”
The trademark office in 2011 said registering the trademark of The Slants, an Asian-American rock group, would violate a part of the 1946 Lanham Trademark Act that prohibits registration of a trademark that “may disparage … persons, living or dead, institutions, beliefs, or national symbols, or bring them into contempt, or disrepute.”
The office said the name was likely to disparage a significant number of Asian Americans. But founder Simon Tam said the point of the band’s name is just the opposite: an attempt to reclaim a slur and use it “as a badge of pride.” [....]
Comments
Freedom to practice hate speech in this country is re-confirmed, whether one likes it or not. “Giving offense is a viewpoint.” Racist acts can be outlawed, but not speech. It's up to the culture and politic to deal with hate speech, the government cannot show preference in speech.
by artappraiser on Mon, 06/19/2017 - 11:25am
Trademarks Allowed for Potentially Offensive Names
By ADAM LIPTAK @ NYTimes.com, 17 minutes ago
The Supreme Court’s decision, over an Asian-American band named the Slants, will likely bolster the Washington Redskins’ trademark bid.
by artappraiser on Mon, 06/19/2017 - 11:43am
When ESPN's Bomani Jones wore a t-shirt parodying the Cleveland Indian's "Chef Wahoo" logo replacing it with "Caucasians", people flipped out. ESPN had him cover the logo by zipping up his hoodie.
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/04/07/bomani-jones-caucasians-shirt-es...
by rmrd0000 on Mon, 06/19/2017 - 11:48am
And ESPN is not the government. That's peer pressure and employer pressure on speech, it works. And if you don't like the speech of professional spectator sports teams or those that cover them, you don't have to participate in watching them (I don't even like professional spectator sports, so that's not hard for me to do.)
by artappraiser on Mon, 06/19/2017 - 1:38pm
True. Interesting that some of the people who love the Redskins and Indians dislike the use of the Caucasians logo. When I read the band's name, Asian did not immediately come to mind.
by rmrd0000 on Mon, 06/19/2017 - 1:47pm
It is troubling that the band assumes they have the power to take back a word they consider offensive. I have to admit that "slant" was not on my radar.
by rmrd0000 on Mon, 06/19/2017 - 3:20pm
I doubt it's that simplistic or mundane. Like, were The Slits trying to reclaim the vagina, or just in-your-face punks? Lydia Lunch throwing what she claimed were used tampons up on stage? Molotov Cocktail (Mexico City/Los Angeles) doing frijolero/beaner ("don't call me beaner, gringo, stay on your side of the border...). My dormmate who called himself "The Happy Hebe" (and he was). Sometimes quite tired of these suburban conservative values. Life can be/should be bizarre. I've known couples that had fusing sex changes, meet in the middle - inspires me more than "I'm just confused about who I am"
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 06/19/2017 - 8:58pm
I have a Frog friend who calls Americans "Burgers." I think it is funny (and pretty clever). I guess the possibilities for offense are limitless though.
by CVille Dem on Tue, 06/20/2017 - 7:28am
I think the impact on minority groups is different. when Asians are called slants by white people the word carries more danger than two white friends joking about Frogs and Burgers. It is interesting that blacks had a greater chance of being called N-words by white people in the past then they do now. Despite the word blaring on rap songs, direct white on black verbal assaults using the word directly in your face is less common. Bill Maher is still employed, but the likelihood of a high number of whites using the N-word, even on satellite television is low. I think word-wise, people are policing themselves.
The current generation of minority youth appear that they can take a racial slur back from white people. I find the concept hard to believe, but they may have a point. If you do call people slants or N-words, it does create pushback. The Slants claim their word. Anyone other than an Asian using the term categorizes themselves as an outlier. The first thing that comes to mind when a white person uses slant is intimidation, not friendship. Perhaps they have taken the word back.
by rmrd0000 on Tue, 06/20/2017 - 9:40am
But if I'm used to bands called the Slits or Stayns or Circle Jerks or Niggas with Attitude, I can't help but feel these discussions are about sinething that belonged in say the borsch belt in the Catskills 60 some years ago. Like if someone says dago or mick or wop or hymie, don't you just roll your eyes and wonder why they didn't make it past I Love Lucy or latest Archie Bunker days.
by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 06/20/2017 - 10:27am
The Confederate flag came down in South Carolina. Confederate statues are coming down in Virginia and New Orleans. Confederates' names are being removed from universities. Streets are renamed to replace Confederates. When a frat sings a nigger song, they get called out.
http://www.slate.com/articles/life/inside_higher_ed/2015/03/behind_the_c...
The frat is not allowed to escape scrutiny by claiming they don't know the real meaning of the word. The frat brothers have access to books and the internet. In many cases all we are seeing is racists bringing attention to themselves. By claiming the word slant, the band may just be allowing racists to expose themselves.
Edit to add:
When a group of white teen girls decided to spell out nigger with, t-shirts, they were suspended.
https://newsone.com/3339125/arizona-teens-suspended-for-spelling-out-rac...
Being unaware to the meaning of the word was no excuse.
The word seems to be being "disappeared" in many spaces.
by rmrd0000 on Tue, 06/20/2017 - 11:24am
In the era of Trump, too, fancy that.
It's important to keep in mind that these two are also minorities: 1) Trump supporters 2) confederate sympathizers
And that the millenial generation has these two characteristics: 1) raised by baby boom generation parents and grandparents, known to have caused revolution of social norms 2) increasingly cafeteria multi-culti with multi-ethnic background in the extreme (to the point of best being described as American, the hyphenation would be too long) and multi-racial.
by artappraiser on Tue, 06/20/2017 - 11:09pm
The nigger song and t-shirts are revolutionary?
by rmrd0000 on Tue, 06/20/2017 - 11:38pm
I take it you don't consider race important in the Trump era?
By the way the SAE incident was 2015
The t-shirt incident was in January 2016.
In both situations there were consequences.
Trump, Sessions, DeVos, etc. are creating a new normal regarding race
Edit to add:
I would be surprised if the high schoolers and the college students hadn't heard that their black fellow student might object to their use of the word nigger. Did they nap during their multi-culti contacts?
by rmrd0000 on Wed, 06/21/2017 - 12:18am
I take it you don't consider race important in the Trump era?
Wrong. I was referring to your reply to me on the other thread a few hours ago. Where you imply it's impossible for racial problems to get better in "this era of Trump". Yet here you imply some things are improving. In "this era of Trump" as you put it.
You're doing the same thing you do with oceankat: making me a straw man to argue against and not reading my comments, so you can continue on a jihad about racists. Carry on, I'll stop with trying to get into analyzing the current culture, that's obviously not in your program.
P.S. Everyone on this site knows there are racists and hate mongers in this country, we know there are racists and hater mongers in every country, we are news junkies.
by artappraiser on Wed, 06/21/2017 - 12:45am
P.P.S. Watched the 2016 movie Keanu last night on cable TV. Lead writer of script and lead actor: Afro-American. I swear characters in the script used the N word every 5 minutes, to excess, I found it as tacky as when Quentin Tarantino does it. Blaxploitation genre handled straight or ironic = not my cup of tea, but appears to be very popular these days among audiences of all colors.
Oh and here's the detailed history about the faux news about the myths about audience for hip hop, how it all started as a way to get "play".
I'm done, not interested in causing outrage about stuff I'm not saying.
by artappraiser on Wed, 06/21/2017 - 12:59am
I stand corrected on the 80% number. I stand by the statement that Trump is different. Sessions is threat,
I did come across an article on frequency of the use of the word nigger. 64-66% percent of blacks know people who use the word or have used the word in the past five years. About half of white people know people who use the word nigger and almost a third have used the word in the past five years.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2015/06/25/using-the-...
P.P.S.
I saw "Get Out". "Keanu" didn't seem worth my time.
by rmrd0000 on Wed, 06/21/2017 - 1:20am
AA, here is my statement about the era of Trump
Sessions is rolling back police oversight. You disagree that this is a game changer? The Trump DOJ will not intervene on police abuse. That is the era of Trump. Where do you disagree?
Edit to add:
The high school and college events were during the Obama administration.
by rmrd0000 on Wed, 06/21/2017 - 1:25am
Redskins' defensive end Jason Hatcher knows how to play The Victim Olympics.
by artappraiser on Wed, 06/21/2017 - 2:28am