MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE by Michael Wolraich Order today at Barnes & Noble / Amazon / Books-A-Million / Bookshop |
Today, response to Walker's bill has been… unfavorable. About ten thousand currently surround Walker's capitol office and are streaming into the dome. Walker should be extra-worried to know that the Super Bowl Champion Green Bay Packers and its former stars, the most important political lobby in the state, have come out against him.
And what is the brave Republican Governor, who calls himself "tough," doing in response? He is standing up to his critics by moving his legislative budget address to the compound of a private corporation.
Even in biting wind, protesters are continuing to surround the capitol. Firefighters and police, whose unions are exempted from the collective bargaining elimination, have come out in support of their state colleagues.
Comments
Tomorrow is supposed to be the big day for planned demonstrations. Today was just a tune-up.
I have a friend whose wife works as an office manager for the state in Wisconsin. On Monday, she received an e-mail directive and then a follow-up from HER supervisor. She is supposed to compile a list of the names and clock numbers of those employees in her office who fail to show up on the job on Wednesday,
"I can't do that." she told her supervisor.
"What do you mean, you can't do it?" asked her boss.
"I mean it's impossible," she responded. "I won't be here. I'm calling in sick."
Solidarity!
by SleepinJeezus on Tue, 02/15/2011 - 4:25pm
Brad Lutes, a Wisc teacher, mentioned that on Dem Now! this morning. He said he was fortunate in that his district supported the unions, but that others might be taking names and issuing threats.
by Donal on Tue, 02/15/2011 - 4:31pm
Suggestion to check out some of the comments on the second article. It's a good mixture. There's definitelya lot of genuine anger there with the teachers and other state workers as well as supporters of them. If any of them are astroturfers, they're sure good at sounding like regular angry people. Gives you an idea of what a state representative might be hearing from constituents, rather than just the opinion of the Capitol protestors.
by artappraiser on Wed, 02/16/2011 - 7:31pm
by SleepinJeezus on Wed, 02/16/2011 - 8:54pm
Keep on rolling Wisconsin, and drive this bastard outta town.
It's no prisoners time, cause if he wins, they're gonna drop the hammer, harder, in a lot of other states.
Fill the house, fill the streets, and stop him before he gets a good hold.
by quinn esq on Wed, 02/16/2011 - 9:57pm
If you do the Google for "news," this is what you'll get
Funny thing is that's NOT how I got it. Actually, I went directly to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel site to see what they were doing on the story. The second story in my comment I posted was the main big headline story on their home page. The first story in my comment was not, it was off the main page.but I put it first because I thought it was just as interesting or more interesting, because it implied there might be some administration input on this whole scene tomorrow and that could get real interesting.
And I went there directly because I often do. I was born in Milwaukee and lived there until age 29 excepting for 4 years getting a BA in Madison and I like to check the site once in a while for the Milwaukee news.
What you aren't told is that Journal Communications has a history
I am quite aware of the monopoly Journal Company's history, don't need your agitprop on that, thank you anyways.. Even grew up having to hear bitching about its nefarious power and influence on government affairsin weekly particulars from my father, who spent his career as a city government employee, specifically in the Personnel Dept, where his of his main activity was studying salaries wages and benefits of city government workers, those stats often used in labor contract negotiations.
Which side are YOU on?
I'm on the side of figuring out what's happening in the world.
As far as personal interests in this Wisconsin story are concerned, I'm on the side of figuring out what the heck the state of Wisconsin is going to be doing with all government services and their budiget and the strange things they are thinking about doing with their government in general. As I have a 50-something developmentally-disabled brother living there on SSDI who is also eligible for Medicaid as well as Medicare, and back when the state was in one of its more liberal moods, perhaps other services as he ages. And any day now I will be taking on the responsibility for directing the rest of his life. I am therefore not thrilled that Wisconsin is apparently going through another one of its periodic conservative rightie moods (wich have happened regularly throughout its history.)
But I don't believe in telling myself that what I can see with my own eyes, in this case that Wisconsin is going through another one of its conservative spells, isn't occuring in order to promote an ideological cause on the internet. Mho, just pretending everyone is on your side and hiding what a lot of voters are thinking in Wisconsin isn't really going to help you get anywhere you want to go. You've got to change the minds of some of those voters commenting on that Journal-Sentinel thread, not pretending they are not there and that its just an evil governor forcing it on a public that doesn't want it, in order get "amen brother" from fellow members on dag blog.
One thing I'm sure of is that not everyone in Wisconsin is on the side of the State Journal just as they are not all on the side of the Milwaukee Sentinel Journal. And then there's that awful big number of rural white state districts in Wisconsin whose opinion isn't represented by either but do have a lot of input when they go out and vote in state elections.
Another thing I did think while reading those is that if Wisonsin activisits were smart, they might be taking a clue from that Journal headline which implied that the governor might adjust his stance if other members of his party needed himi to, and instead of continuing a sit-in in Madison, they might be burning up the phone lines getting people in Republican districts to call their representatives and say they are against the governor's proposals.
by artappraiser on Wed, 02/16/2011 - 10:17pm
by SleepinJeezus on Wed, 02/16/2011 - 10:35pm
I vehemently disagree that either of those news articles were propaganda, I find it ridculous to call them that, and I think it makes you look like an agitprop spouter to say so. It's useful news that the governor says he is willing to deal and also that Duncan is going to be speaking with him tomorrow. You're sounding like an ayatollah telling people what facts they should pay attention to.
Ever think if you modified that shtick of a romanticized Hollywood version of a Wobblie you might win more friends and influence more people?
You know, your arguments remind me that , even during the Depression, a majority weren't big fans of all union tactics. And strikes by public employees are often notoriously unpopular, so they have to be used with great tactical skill to be successful. I wish those who participated in the no show well, but it remains to be seen if they did the smart thing for their own goals. Seems so far to me that it's causing more to call for their heads.
Meanwhile, still looking at the Journal website, I see the breaking that Milwaukee Area Technical College teachers were busy protecting themselves via other methods, and did., June 2011 through June 2014. Maybe a new governor and statehouse after that. I suppose your going to say that news item is twisted Journal propanganda too?
by artappraiser on Wed, 02/16/2011 - 11:05pm
I get what you're saying ArtA, but I think it's time to revisit the evidence.
The Democrats have followed the sorts of strategies you're recommending for the last few decades. They have repeatedly compromised as the Right has, year after year, moved further to the Right. In terms of support to and for Unions, there has been little. In terms of taxes and services, there has been one of the world's most rapid shifts toward the rich.
Now, let's look at the facts on the ground that have come out of those decades of following what you recommend. Economic slump. Fiscal collapse. Extraordinary inequality. High un- and under-employment and loss of hope. Almost complete collapse of the unionized base of the American workforce.
Faced with this, and with a new Governor who is really taking some extraordinary FURTHER steps to the Right - like revoking a whole set of collective bargaining rights - your suggestion is? Yeah, to compromise with this guy. You don't propose raising taxes on the rich. You don't show any anger at the removal of people's hard-won rights. And oddly enough, your history lesson from the Depression was that... many people didn't like Unions then either.
I think you're in danger of becoming a rhetoric machine. It's old rhetoric. It has almost no useful grasp of reality left in it. It recommends that people continue a thoroughly failed strategy. And it increasingly looks like it - again - favours the most wealthy, powerful and dangerous elements of society.
Oh. And it was wrong, and dangerous, during the Depression as well.
Time to rethink.
by quinn esq on Thu, 02/17/2011 - 10:48am
I have serious reservations about the tactical advisability of the Madison sick-out. There are many calls going out to the people that you "suggest" should be contacted. I don't interpret anyone in this thread as having heads in the sand, saying there is no public support for what Walker is trying to do.
Do you support or oppose Wisconsin public employees having the option of collective representation? If you support that, then you presumably are against Governor Walker's bill because it would eliminate that option.
I would be curious as to what you would recommend as a short pitch to try to persuade members of the public who are on the fence on this. What, if any, information or argument would you, might you, do you, find persuasive?
by AmericanDreamer on Thu, 02/17/2011 - 12:31pm
Came across this:
“It is essential that there should be organization of labor. This is an era of organization. Capital organizes and Therefore labor must organize.” --Theodore Roosevelt
This website has the recording of a song which can also be downloaded free, with lyrics listed below.
http://soundcloud.com/john-statz/thank-em
Joe works hard from morning to night,
gets home and kisses his beautiful wife.
Watches Fox News, thinks he's got it all figured out,
curses the labor unions, not knowing about...
Thank the unions,
do you like your weekends?
thank the unions,
for minimum wage,
thank organized labor.
Joe don't even know how lucky he is
Joe bitches about his property taxes,
hates the school board and the IRS.
His kids they get a quality, free education,
and the teachers they still get paid shit.
Thank a teacher,
that you can read and write,
thank a teacher,
you can multiply,
thank a teacher,
thank your education,
count your blessings and get organized.
by AmericanDreamer on Thu, 02/17/2011 - 12:38pm