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Ohio Student Expelled, Arrested, Spent 13 Days In Jail . . . After A Small Pocketknife Is Found In His Locked Car Trunk By School Officials
By A Guy Called LULU on Tue, 03/18/2014 - 12:45pm |Jordan Wiser, a student at Ashtabula County Technical School in Jefferson, Ohio is rightfully confused after being being arrested for bringing a weapon into school.
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http://jonathanturley.org/2014/03/18/ohio-student-expelled-arrested-spent-13-days-in-jail-after-a-small-pocketknife-is-found-in-his-locked-car-trunk-by-school-officials/#more-77096
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The worst that might happen to the idiot prosecutor is that he loses the election and does not become a judge. The obvious thing about the school administration is that they will continue to be mindless automatons. The best that might happen to humanity is that it might evolve, some day, into an intelligent species. Meanwhile ..., oh never mind.
by A Guy Called LULU on Tue, 03/18/2014 - 12:46pm
This is so insane that I went looking for the rest of the story. There's no way this could be true as presented.
Unfortunately, it seems that there is no "rest of the story". This is just as insane as it sounds.
by Verified Atheist on Tue, 03/18/2014 - 12:58pm
I had much the same reaction. The story just seemed too crazy as told. Even here in the land of the free and the home of the brave. Usually I would have looked further myself when the 'reported' facts of the case seemed so far out there but I was in a bit of a hurry and decided to make sort of a psychic bet that Turley would have done that himself before posting the story as he did. Glad that you did look further, though.
by A Guy Called LULU on Tue, 03/18/2014 - 7:51pm
Just parenthetically, this state, Ohio? Isn't it the one that is touted every four years as the aribiter of presidential election? Holy shit!
Meanwhile, the prosecutor needs a little State Bar Discipline--there is, among the canon of ethics, a mandate not to pursue bullshit cases. This is without peradventure a bullshit case, and five minutes of cross examining this asshole would prove it out of his own mouth.
At the very least, come election time, may we not hope to drown his opponent in money so that "the people" regain one small bit of dignity?
by jollyroger on Tue, 03/18/2014 - 4:57pm
OTOH, if it goes to trial and a jury rules in favor of the defendant, strict 'no tolerance' policies may be reconsidered if faced with civil liability suits.
Clearly the boy frightened the local authorities and the knife was just the excuse they used to quarantine him. I hope they were wrong because if not, after this experience he has a good chance of becoming more frightening.
by EmmaZahn on Tue, 03/18/2014 - 5:13pm
What the fuck are you talking about? You hope they were wrong???
BTW, there is no hope here of civil redress, if the case goes to trial and a defense verdict ensues, "the system worked..."
by jollyroger on Tue, 03/18/2014 - 5:40pm
Please don't swear.
I visited his youtube channel. His areas of interest are army, police, fire, emt which are good professions to pursue but maybe because I have a friend who spent a fair portion of her career weeding out crazies who as avidly wanted to be in the police force, I sincerely hope he is not one of them.
by EmmaZahn on Tue, 03/18/2014 - 6:17pm
hmmm.. well, okay, I did respond without benefit of the Youtube visit...maybe I'll drop by and come back when better informed.
Edit to add: ok, all I saw was a kinda geeky interview with a cop about the new police cars (Wiser identifies himself as from the cable channel), pretty unobjectionable...didn't watch all the stuff, but that's how I saw it.) Lotsa army outtakes. not my cuppa, but I don't see Adam Lanza here...
by jollyroger on Tue, 03/18/2014 - 6:34pm
I hear you. I want to be skeptical about this, too, but if this guy was one of those crazies you'd think that someone on the other side of the argument (not just the prosecutor who professionally should be keeping his mouth shut about the case, but others such as the school officials involved in the case) would be pointing this out, and I'm not seeing it anywhere.
Edit to add: Here's another video (posted in February) that I think says something about what kind of kid he is:
by Verified Atheist on Tue, 03/18/2014 - 7:00pm
O maaan, this is a fuckin' OUTRAGE!! This is a good kid! How dare they claim to have based their "concerns" on his youtube channel.
by jollyroger on Tue, 03/18/2014 - 7:24pm
Why? Locals sue the school board here all the time for much smaller overreaches.
by EmmaZahn on Tue, 03/18/2014 - 6:22pm
If the case were dismissed without going to trial, it might form the basis for a wrongful prosecution (which is fundamentally the redress afforded on these facts).
However, if the prosecutor exercises his discretion and a judge refuses to grant the defendant's motion to dismiss, then the decision of a jury to acquit, while a "victory" for the defendant, doesn't impart to him a right to recover for having been charged, imprisoned, and tried. That's why I put scare quotes around the expression, "the system worked".
Ie, when you are wrongfully accused, and after spending $100,000+ on bail premiums, lawyers, etc, plus spent maybe (as here,) 13 days in custody, you are expected to be grateful that you were acquitted, but that's all you get (this lousy t-shirt that says "I'm not in prison")
by jollyroger on Tue, 03/18/2014 - 6:26pm
Yes, no need to swear.
by Peter Schwartz on Tue, 03/18/2014 - 7:45pm
adds fuckin' emphasis...
by jollyroger on Tue, 03/18/2014 - 7:59pm
What the f---bleep is f-------bleep going on with all these f----bleep?
YoHo YoHo... A sailor's life for me...
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by oldenGoldenDecoy on Fri, 03/21/2014 - 3:59pm