MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE by Michael Wolraich Order today at Barnes & Noble / Amazon / Books-A-Million / Bookshop |
From what I can see, H.R. McMaster may be Trump's best appointment by far. If you've been following the news, you know about his acclaimed Ph.D. dissertation: "Dereliction of Duty: Lyndon Johnson, Robert McNamara the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and the Lies That Led to Vietnam." Here are some of takeaways from the dissertation:
The president was lying, and he expected the Chiefs to lie as well or, at least, to withhold the whole truth. Although the president should not have placed the Chiefs in that position, the flag officers should not have tolerated it when they had.
There was no meaningful structure through which the chiefs could voice their views — even the chairman [of the Joint Chiefs] was not a reliable conduit. NSC meetings were strictly pro forma affairs in which the president endeavored to build consensus for decisions already made.
The disaster in Vietnam was not the result of impersonal forces but a uniquely human failure, the responsibility for which was shared by President Johnson and his principal military and civilian advisers. The failings were many and reinforcing: arrogance, weakness, lying in pursuit of self-interest, and above all, the abdication of responsibility to the American people.
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This really cannot work out well...How could Trump have permitted Bolton's mustache to militate against a so much more congenial choice? Edit to Add: "a goyische kopf" would have been my grandmother's evaluation.
by jollyroger on Wed, 02/22/2017 - 12:35am
As jr said, this really can't work out well, or at all. There is either no way he will get along with Trump or he'll put his honor and integrity on hold for the duration.
by ocean-kat on Wed, 02/22/2017 - 1:39am
The way I figure it, the more responsible folks that Trump puts in positions of power, the less room he has to maneuver for his shenanigans. Sure, he could fire or marginalize McMasters, but it's not easy to do either, and there would likely be fierce blowback within and without the administration. And yes, McMasters could turn toady, but that doesn't seem to be his nature.
by Michael Wolraich on Wed, 02/22/2017 - 10:08am
Wolraich... What's really cooking?
Possibly a ‘New Generation War’
As we are already quite aware,
3 Generals Bound by Iraq Will Guide Trump on Security - NYTimes | Feb 21, 2017
And specifically related to McMaster, this in an item that's boiling under the surface and cannot be overlooked.
Today, speaking about newly appointed NSC Director H.R. McMaster. buried in the Washington Post.
And in that Politico link... from one little known old Cold War egg-head...
And take a good hard look. From April 2015:
drakulablog.com : Potomac Foundation President Phillip Karber Visits Ukraine
Check Phillip Karber's highlights of his career --> here.
There's plenty there to absorb and ponder...
~OGD~
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x-posted from TPM Prime/Hive
Don’t Get Too Sidetracked on The Mid-East: “Russia New Generation Warfare Study”
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by oldenGoldenDecoy on Wed, 02/22/2017 - 4:40am
Thanks for this OGD. I'm glad to see that McMasters takes Russia seriously and looks beyond the old Cold War frame. That bodes well.
by Michael Wolraich on Wed, 02/22/2017 - 10:03am
Zen and the Fart of Intellectualism
I have not read McMaster’s book. I almost ordered it for Kindle but instead got caught up reading reviews on Amazon. It is described, among other ways, as being tedious and repetitive. Not surprising I suppose for what started out as a doctoral thesis. Most reviews rated it as an excellent history of what I will call the bureaucratic handling of a particular war. I have also read several articles including the one you linked to. An almost universal meme is the description of McMaster as a “Warrior Intellectual” the same term applied to his mentor, David Petraeus. I have a strong gut reaction to the term Warrior Intellectual”. [I fucking hate it] McMaster is a soldier, he was probably as brave as most in combat, maybe more so, and is by definition an intellectual. He is said to have the reputation of being intellectually brave enough to speak his mind to those above him in rank. That is a significant quality but only a significantly ‘good’ quality if his advice is good. That is what deserves attention today. McMaster’s problem with truth seems to only be within the war making hierarchy. I haven’t noticed any indication that he is particularly worried about that hierarchy's lying to the American public about the conduct of the a war or why we are fighting the war in the first place.
The main conclusion I have come to so far is that the value of McMaster’s book in and of itself as a guide to better understanding how McMaster will influence National Security policy going forward is just slightly more than zero. Why would I say this? I say it because everything of importance which he revealed about that particular war has been essentially true of every U.S. war in my lifetime and I am convinced it is true of at least one side of every war in history. Has anyone who pays attention not know this since shortly after they started paying attention? Is any of what he says not true today regarding the many places we are fighting wars either directly or by proxy?
In dissecting the Vietnam War and why it was lost McMaster never, to my knowledge, says how we could have won. A slight hint at his belief is his saying that advice to go in bigger earlier was suggested and shouldn’t have been ignored. What losing general never said that he would have won if he only had more fodder to feed to the grinder. Today McMaster calls for a bigger military. More ships, more tanks, more jets, more soldiers, and more … uh .. more. That is just more of the same thing we have been hearing from honored warrior intellectuals forever.
McMaster agrees that war is politics by other means. Following is the last paragraph of his book. While I disagree with the first part I agree with the highlighted part. That conclusion indicates to me that he believes we could have won if the war had been prosecuted correctly. I don’t know what concrete or abstract thing worth the effort might have been “won’ and I don’t think McMaster says but if McMaster believes that the Vietnam War could have been won in the field without [more] extreme barbarism [several million Vietnamese were killed and many continue to die from residual effects] then he is an intellectual idiot regarding that war, IMO. He probably is the best appointee yet, maybe even a good one, but his book is not evidence that he is. Again IMO.
"The war in Vietnam was not lost in the field, nor was it lost on the front pages of the New York Times or on the college campuses. It was lost in Washington, DC, even before Americans assumed sole responsibility for the fighting in 1965 and before they realized the country was at war; indeed, even before the first American units were deployed. The disaster in Vietnam was not the result of impersonal forces but a uniquely human failure, the responsibility for which was shared by President Johnson and his principal military and civilian advisers. The failings were many and reinforcing: arrogance, weakness, lying in the pursuit of self-interest, and, above all, the abdication of responsibility to the American people."
Just like always except maybe more so now. Be careful folks, it's dangerous out there.
by A Guy Called LULU on Wed, 02/22/2017 - 12:15pm
Well stated. Little known facts about the Vietnam War:
1. The US armed Ho Chi Minh to clear Japanese out of Vietnam The CIA precursor OSS was involved. Fletcher Prouty in his book JFK said huge quantities of arms not needed for the canceled invasion of Japan were sent there from Okinawa, approximately half to Korea and half to Indochina.
US OSS officers, Ho, 1940s.
2. Ho Chi Minh was educated in France and a member of a 'free Vietnam' diplomatic group which officially petitioned post WW1 Versailles Conference. Their plea for self determination for Vietnam was rejected by 'make the world safe for democracy' Wilson because Wilson and the other war winners were racists.
So Ho was ignored or doublecrossed more than once in his efforts for Vietnamese self rule. Leading to our useless and unnecessary failed war.
If anyone here has actually read McMaster's book, maybe they can tell us if he mentioned the historical points above. I doubt it.
by NCD on Wed, 02/22/2017 - 2:21pm
Ho was already leaning Bolshevik by Versailles. Better dead than red. Defeating the Japanese military was more important than whether Vietnam lived on in chaos, 10 years later, similar to arming bin Laden and others to defeat the Soviet army, whatever terrorism happened 15 years later.
by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 02/22/2017 - 7:48pm
If Wilson had given them democracy, recognition and indepedence, no Vietnam war and likely a very determined ally against Japanese imperialism in WW2.
by NCD on Wed, 02/22/2017 - 8:33pm
Or we would have had Bolshevism in Asia 25-30 years earlier than it got there. With the 10's of millions of deaths in the Stalin purges, Georgian ethnic cleansing & Ukrainian hlodomor, Great Leap Forward/Cultural Revolution, Cambodia's Killing Fields, and Ho's extermination of at least 50,000 montagnards when he did get power, I'm quite content he got turned down. Yeah, we could have done it better, but the questions include how, to what end, and vs. what alternatives. Think 1919's Ho would have made Vietnam freer than the largely repressed state it is today? I don't. Though I guess at least it's not Burma.
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 02/23/2017 - 3:26am
Thanks NCD. There is always a "play" going on. Someone is always playin' the other guy who is playing the best game he can with what he's got to play with.
by A Guy Called LULU on Thu, 02/23/2017 - 12:03am
I agree with you about the "intellectual" baloney. I'm more interested in what the dissertation says about his independence than his erudition.
A fair point. For starters, even if his ideas are utterly conventional, his counsel would be far superior to that of nutcases like Bannon, Flynn, or Bolton. That's a low bar, but we're living in a low bar world.
Second, there's at least some evidence that his ideas are better than conventional, such as OGD's article on Russia's new generation warfare and artappraiser's piece from the other thread about his counterinsurgency tactics in Iraq.
Time will tell, but at least I'm not despairing the way I would if it were Bolton. And as for Flynn, I was truly afraid of that guy, so I'm relieved that he'll be replaced.
by Michael Wolraich on Wed, 02/22/2017 - 4:36pm
We are sure together about the nut cases Bannon, Flynn, or Bolton, Bolton being the scariest to me considering all having equal influence. Your consideration of McMaster makes me think of my consideration of Jim Webb early on. He expressed a more hawkish policy than I would like but he seemed, to my way of thinking, to aim it better and with a more intelligent idea of what could be/should be decided by military threats or actual actions. And yeah, on the big picture, or maybe I should say 'eventually', you are absolutely correct, time will tell.
by A Guy Called LULU on Wed, 02/22/2017 - 11:39pm
But the beat goes on, tap tap tapping the same old cadence. Way past time ime to change the one note drummers.
https://lobelog.com/wrong-on-nam-wrong-on-terror/
by A Guy Called LULU on Sat, 02/03/2018 - 1:44pm
Except we did have good cause to intervene in this "anti-colonial civil war" - as it was always a proxy war for the Soviet Union and China. You only have to look at the results in Korea - North Korea as a rump buffer state bolstered by China after all these years - and the near catastrophe that almost happened when the UN was pushed back to only 100 square miles at the tip of South Korea. Or to look at how the Soviet grab in East Europe lasted for 40 years.
The Domino Theory was in fact correct - and despite the incompetence of the Vietnam War and the spillover into other neighbors, it kept the Communists from entrenching themselves into other countries - Indonesia handled its own affairs by slaughtering Communists in 1965, while the Phillippines and Thailand and Malaysia were spared.through some effort. Vietnam is still digging out, and it wasn't the West that forced Ho Chi Minh to slaughter 100,000+ farmers in rural relocation and revenge killings in the 1950's before we got involved.
Almost 70 years on, we're still on the receiving end of a lot of pat pro-Communist marketing that simply doesn't hold up to scrutiny. Try "still deceiving on Vietnam, so a sucker on more pressing modern problems". Again, that doesn't mean our conduct of the war on terror is intelligent - it's been grossly tone-deaf and self-defeating. But the left's inability to analyze things with any degree of accuracy has condemned us to not having a security adult in the room to thread the needle of protecting our vital interests while at the same time curbing overreactions and upholding human rights. Instead it's jingoism on one side, knee-jerk idiocy on the other. Whither the twain shall meet?
by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 02/04/2018 - 7:40am
McMasters may be the Maxwell Taylor of our time.
If you check Taylor's 1960 descriptions he was a philospher general. Fit comfortably with the best and the brightest in JFK's White House:McGeorge Bundy, the Rostows, Roswell Gilpatrick, Schlesinger etc.
Taylor supposedly had disapproved of Eisenhower's stodgy foreign policy. Oh good!.
We know how that all worked out.
Bobby Kennedy named a son Maxwell after Taylor.
.Bolton? Thank you God.But just possibly we might have been better off with an ineffective Bolton rather than Philosopher General Mark 2.
by Flavius on Thu, 02/23/2017 - 10:49am
Here is a good column which I think fits here and is about a Public Intellectual Word Warrior who was hired away from writing for Bill Kristol, who has never been right about anything important ever, by the NYT.
[Again, in preview, the link opens somewhere in the middle of the page.]
by A Guy Called LULU on Thu, 02/23/2017 - 10:49am