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    Edward Snowden: Your Technoutopian/Libertarian Hero Traitor?

    This morning, my favorite columnist in the world, David Brooks, gave his quick take on Edward Snowden, ultimately condemning him for antisocial behavior driven by a hyper-individualistic morality formed out of his refusal to conform to various social norms (he didn't finish high school, or community college, didn't want to be friends with his neighbor, hadn't put a ring on his girlfriend, no organized religion, etc.)

    Brooks' column reveals all of Brooks' prejudices.  He's hysterically funny when he talks about how Snowden betrayed Booz Allen, as if that's the most important thing we should be talking about right now.  If you care at all about Booz, I'd suggest looking into why a CIA contractor is so incompetent about giving so much classified material to any one person.

    But, back to Snowden. No, not back to Snowden.  Let's save the debate about his merits and demerits as a person for another time.  We'll just wind up shouting "Hero! Traitor!" at each other.  That's not going to solve anything.

    Besides, there's something more interesting going on, though Brooks has missed it.  He looks at Snowden and sees an example of our dangerously atomized culture where personal moral convictions, some well thought out and some not, trump society's values.

    But I don't see the same world Brooks does.  I see, rather than increasing atomization of values (and the corresponding increase in freedom) a sort of creeping conformism in American society, one that is enforced very strictly by the government and by your fellow citizens.

    Your fellow citizens, by the way, are probably the most direct culprit.  I've always believed that a nosy neighbor can be a greater threat to liberty than the NSA.  In a world of camera phones, internet shaming and social networks, your nosy neighbor can be anywhere.  People are extremely willing to enforce mainstream valueson others, in any way they can.

    This all serves the government, in pretty obvious ways.  A culture of more than 300 million people all doing their own thing becomes very difficult for the data miners in the NSA to analyze.  The government needs a baseline of normalcy otherwise it has no way to idenfity radicals and eccentrics.

    Put another way, were Snowden socialized in the way that Brooks would like for him to have been, there would have been no leak.  Part of the mainstream ethos that Brooks is pushing here is that you let the NSA do what the NSA does.  You don't presume to interfere.  Brooks actually says that Snowden has revealed details about the program without proving any sort of "abuse," as if the program itself isn't "abuse."  This is the same thing as saying, "It's okay because it's legal," while ignoring a wider debate about what the law should be.

    To a large extent, the government's job (at all levels from local policing to federal services) is easier when people "act normal," and live the types of lives that Brooks says they should live.

    One thing I fear, by the way, is that Snowden will someday soon face the brute reality of how the government punishes the most strident non-conformists.  I hope that wherever people come down on the issue of Snowden's role in history that they mill not condone treatment similar to that of Bradly Manning, who has seen all manner of law and procedure used against him in myriad ways.

     

     

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    The top reader selected comment on Brooks column mentions Snowden 'upsetting the security states apple cart". That is, apparently, the one that failed to identify the identity of the Boston bombers even though the 'security state' had been tipped off on one by the Russians, had interviewed him less than two years ago, and had photo's of him at the scene with a large backpack.

    Techonoutipian is an apt description of Snowden. Maybe the NSA is going overboard, I trust the courts and Congress, if they ever stop investigating the 'security state' failures at Benghazi, to deal with it. I know of no cases where the NSA phone number/email data caused anyone harm. If the US government is banned from seeking or storing digital data, then they will be the only ones without it, hackers, scammers, China, corporations and the Russian mob may peruse and use digital data, but not Uncle Sam.

    Uncle Sam is the only one of the group that citizens have some control over through elections. If you don't trust them, vote them out. One step that is needed is to prevent low level guys like Snowden from having access to whatever they want to access in the NSA data.  The data should be highly secured and access to it recorded and monitored.

    Glenn Greewald's opinions on US gov't snooping or Israel's bombing of a cache of missiles in Damascus would have more conviction if he was missing a leg or two as a result of a terror bombing or a Hezbollah missile attack. Where are his articles on drug related crime and the police abuse of human rights in the slums of Brazil, where he lives?



    Its all well and good to say vote them out. I would, if I know what they're doing. Now I'm beginning to have some idea just what they're up to. It surely will affect my vote, maybe it won't affect your's.

    But when the program is secret and James Clapper, director of the NSA, blatantly lies to congress about the program and its so top secret that not even congress members can talk about it how can I know who to vote out?


    Look at it this way, this whole thing may be good for the Postal Service, look what email has done to them.

    There is no mention of an NSA dragnet on millions of envelopes of first class mail (if first class mail even reaches into the millions anymore). Even postcards are likely more secure and private then email.


    In other words you're ok not only with the government not informing the American people you're also just fine with the government misinforming the people and government officials lying to congress.

    Because why? It will be good for the post office.

    I bet you also think the grown ups should take you seriously when you post inane crap like this in the middle of an adult discussion. I sure won't anymore.


    I agree completely, or at least 99%. I wish I could express it myself half as well.


    One thing I fear, by the way, is that Snowden will someday soon face the brute reality of how the government punishes the most strident non-conformists.  

    And do not forget the impact it will have on his family and friends as well. His personal and professional references' careers will probably suffer as may his mother's and sister's. Their social lives may suffer, too. He is only 29 and he has pretty much sealed his fate. I really doubt he will ultimately think his brief notoriety is worth the cost he will pay. It would have been far better to have leaked as anonymously as possible. It might have worked.


    I have argued that while bravely risking severe punishment by breaking the law as an act of conscience, that it is completely justified, completely ethical, to try to evade being a martyr for doing so. Coincidental with most people taking the opposite view is the apparent fact that Snowden's way seems to be getting more traction. 

     There is an online petition of support for him. The names of signers are displayed if they do not opt out and request that they be shown as anonymous. Of the first 25, as far as I checked, female names outnumber male names two to one. That is, twelve to six with seven choosing 'anonymous'. I would guess, especially considering the issue, that each signature represents a high multiple of people who read and support the petition but are afraid to sign it.

    http://act.rootsaction.org/p/dia/action3/common/public/?action_KEY=8083


    As I mentioned on my blog, Assange predicted this sort of thing in a 2006 manifesto.

    The more secretive or unjust an organization is, the more leaks induce fear and paranoia in its leadership and planning coterie. This must result in minimization of efficient internal communications mechanisms (an increase in cognitive “secrecy tax”) and consequent system-wide cognitive decline resulting in decreased ability to hold onto power as the environment demands adaption. Hence in a world where leaking is easy, secretive or unjust systems are nonlinearly hit relative to open, just systems. Since unjust systems, by their nature induce opponents, and in many places barely have the upper hand, mass leaking leaves them exquisitely vulnerable to those who seek to replace them with more open forms of governance.

    I think that computer networks, and the sort of people that are drawn to a networked community are far more open to transparency than secrecy. That poses a personnel problem for agencies that want to collect vast amounts of data, share it on a limited basis, and somehow keep their activities all a secret.


    It does.  But the U.S. government does not "barely have the upper hand."  Just ask Manning.  Assange may be responsible for his own troubles but look how quickly his reputation and influence diminished.  His partners turned on him. Wikileaks has been overshadowed by Anonymous and on the political left, Assange is viewed with a whole ton of suspicion, particularly by feminists who find the "honey pot" explanation unconvincing.


    Assange didn't follow his own advice in running Wikileaks, but I think he was correct that those who rely on ever-increasing secrecy to maintain control will undermine themselves.


    People are extremely willing to enforce mainstream values on others, in any way they can.

    Yet peer pressure is also how culture change happens (for good or bad.) It never seems that government can be successful at it, no matter how much they try. The popular arts are one area that does have some sway in changing the "mainstream values" that are "enforced."  But then, they first have to become "popular" somehow.

    I don't know why I am pointing this out here; I guess it is that your writing there conjured up one of my favorite memes. blush

    I will just point out that I didn't see any liberal or libertarian bloggers standing up for the guy convicted of cannibal thought crimes.


    Slate had a decent series covering the show trial of the guy who said gross things on the Internet.


    The levels of 'political TV/radio/internet 'nuts', and the distance of the political fringes from the 'mainstream' have never been greater in America than today.

    As to artappraisers link to 'Girlmeat Hunter' former NYC uniformed policeman, Mr. Valle, I suppose if anyone here was stalked by, and named was on his list to kill and cook, they would be greatly relieved he was found guilty of conspiracy, and will not be back on the streets anytime soon.


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