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    Thomas Friedman, Teacher's Unions and Vladimir Putin

    Unconventional ideas need champions and they have to start somewhere.  Today, Thomas Friedman pushes Arne Duncan, current Secretary of Education as the next Secretary of State.  It's a quirky idea, but interesting.

    First, though, Friedman has to deal with the very obvious problem of why he'd prefer such a contrarian pick over the front runner, current Ambassador to the United Nations and longtime Obama confidante, Susan Rice.

    "I don’t know Rice at all, so I have no opinion on her fitness for the job, but I think the contrived flap over her Libya comments certainly shouldn’t disqualify her."

    Friedman has been writing columns and books, as well as lecturing, on foreign policy issues throughout Obama's first term and for more than a decade prior to that.  He has access to just about anybody he wants to talk to.  But he never met Susan Rice, one of the known architects of Obama's foreign policy?  Never even called her up?  Not once in four years?  Crack reporting, scoop.

    But, hey, this is about Duncan.

    "Well, anyone who has negotiated with the Chicago Teachers Union, as Duncan did when he was superintendent of the Chicago Public Schools before going to Washington, would find negotiating with the Russians and Chinese a day at the beach."

    Then, a few lines later:

    "Trust me, if you can cut such deals with Randi Weingarten, who is president of the American Federation of Teachers, you can do them with Vladimir Putin and Bibi Netanyahu."

    Maybe if Friedman had bothered to call up Rice, she could have explained to gim that the American Federation of Teachers, for all of its vaunted power, does not actually have nuclear weapons.

    It takes Friedman the first half of his column but he finally gets to the crux of his argument, which is that it might be good for the U.S. to have a globetrotting representative who can and will talk about education because education is a way forward for many struggling nations, including the emerging democracies of the Middle East.  Hopefully, this person would have more tact than Friedman, though.

    "For instance, it would be very helpful to have a secretary of state who can start a negotiating session with Hamas leaders (if we ever talk with them) by asking: 'Do you know how far behind your kids are?' That might actually work better than: 'Why don’t you recognize Israel?'”

    Yeah, Tom.  "Your kids are dumb," will go over well.

    "At the same time, as our foreign budget shrinks, more and more of it will have to be converted from traditional grants to 'Races to the Top,' which Duncan’s Education Department pioneered in U.S. school reform. We will have to tell needy countries that whoever comes up with the best ideas for educating their young women and girls or incentivizing start-ups or strengthening their rule of law will get our scarce foreign aid dollars. That race is the future of foreign aid."

    It's an interesting idea.  Though, traditionally, our foreign aid has been deployed (at least in theory) with the idea of American security.  That's problematic.  But what Friedman wants is for the U.S. to do what the IMF and World Bank have done routinely, with very mixed results.

    "Secretary Hillary Clinton practically had to forge the Syrian opposition groups into a coherent collective, as a necessary precursor to persuading them to do the right things. Today, to make history as a secretary of state, you have to make the countries to deal with first."

    I get the feeling that Friedman equates the Syrian opposition with teachers unions and the PTA.  Again, if Friedman thinks that the job of the next Secretary of State should be, in fact, nation building, then maybe he does have to back up and get to know our current Ambassador to the U.N.  The problem with the contrarian solution is that you have to have a good reason why the conventional wisdom is not a better idea.  Friedman doesn't.

    "So while we’re not likely to shift our secretary of education to secretary of state, let’s at least understand why it is not such a preposterous idea."

    You're not doing this idea any favors, Tom.  None at all.

     

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    Reminds me of Maureen Dowd's analysis in her latest blather:

    If Rice can’t soothe the egos of some cranky G.O.P. pols, how would she negotiate with China?


    He is so weird. I guess I can't trust people who are convinced they and they alone have all the answers to everything, ever.

    He, David Brooks, Charles Murray, they should just stop, right now.

    And this whole issue over Ambassador Rice is just some personal vendetta John McCain has against the Obama administration. He said she was  "not that bright". WTF, wow, Hello Sarah! I think everyone can see his bitterness over his 2008 loss. He is making himself irrelevant.

    Now let's get to this Arne Duncan bullshit. Ha Fucking Ha, Friedman (Hah, I almost wrote Brooks there) thinks proposing a white guy to take over for SoS Clinton is so creative? What, it's because he could negotiate with teachers unions? Really? That's weird, because that happens all over the nation every single day. People work together all the time. Superintendents work with Unions every single day, one of their responsibilities is to try to negotiate strike deals. But to make matters worse, Friedman writes that the new SoS should humiliate the very people with whom he is supposed to negotiate peace . Umm, what? Is Friedman seriously proposing Duncan model the diplomatic styling of  John "Porn Stash" Bolton? That is weird isn't it.


    Amid all the blather over Rice and Benghazi, I've yet to read a clear presentation of what skills make for a good secretary of State. Indeed, I get the sense that most of the commentators have little comprehension of what the Secretary of State actually does.


    While Chris Matthews didn't talk specifically about skills required, I liked what he said on it in his short op-ed, transcript or video here.

    Without saying it directly, he made me think that a major  and important "skill" required is that mysterious quality, gravitas, and Rice doesn't seem to have it for the world stage. UN ambassador in and of itself just doesn't seem a qualifier as to "real world." I'm sure it's nice for Obama that he's got someone as simpatico and intelligent as her to discuss foreign affairs with, but that doesn't mean she's able to do a good job of going one on one with other world leaders instead of just being a Obama mirror. Not to mention being fourth in line for presidential succession....Maybe in a decade, after another position....


    I would agree that the mysterious quality of gravitas is a big factor about whether one is successful or not, but I don't think we outside the world behind close doors can tell who has it or doesn't have it.  I don't even think most in the beltway can know because even they are not really personally experience those types of foreign relations moments where they're the big dog in the room.

    And let's remember she has been on the big stage back in Clinton's administration and so has a few decades already of moving amongst the in-crowd- so I don't know what you think another decade will accomplish.


    This is my take as well.  Or, at least, her gravitas with me is a lot less important than her gravitas in the

    I am concerned with Rice's oil and gas interests as she owns shares in TransCanada, which is building the Keystone Pipeline.  Apparently, the Secretary of State gets to approve the northern leg of that process.  So, Rice (already a multimillionaire) would stand to gain a lot by quickly approving the project.  She should divest her holdings before accepting the nomination, just to be fair.

    Still I have a feeling that Keystone will be approved no matter who gets the job. Fracking and LNG are here to stay.


    I'm sure she would do this - esp since I've already seen those on left, her supporters through the confirmation process, raise concerns about it. 

    And I also see Keystone being a reality.  They kicked the can down the road so they could approve it after the election. When I have seen fracking come up in the MSM it is always said in the context of the US becoming one of the biggest producers in the world, and our means to energy independence.


    Is gravitas important? I really don't know. It seems to me that we judge these folks by what we see of them on TV, where gravitas is emphasized, but it may be less significant in one-on-one meetings.

    Based on my extensive experience as a high-level foreign diplomat, I reckon that the most important attribute in those one-on-one meetings is not so much gravitas as authority. A foreign leader or minister needs to know that the Secretary of State's word is backed by the President. To that end, I think that Clinton may have been hampered by perceived distance between Obama and her.

    But let's think about history's great secretaries of state, such as Jefferson, John Quincy Adams, Seward, Marshall, Acheson, Kissinger. What made them great? First and foremost, I would world events. It's much easier to be a great SoS in a time of turmoil. Second, I dunno. The best of them seem to brilliant visionaries and strong leaders--capable of both devising and executing a vision for American foreign policy. Maybe gravitas is part of that, but it's more what's behind the gravitas, I think, the brilliance and talent that engenders respect.

    That's why this Benghazi crap seems like such a joke to me. What does it have to do with anything important?


    Hillary was pretty remarkably effective though.  I don't know if she was able to jiu jitsu the perceived difference into an advantage (whatever distance there was, a foreign leader couldn't quite tell) or if it's just that when dealing with her, other diplomats and leaders knew that they might well be dealing with a future president down the line.

    As for Rice, there's not much doubt that she informs Obama's foreign policy view, so they'll have to listen to her.  The other thing that bothers me about Benghazi, aside from its irrelevance to whether or not Rice would make a good SoC, is that what Rice said, immediately after the attack, wasn't so far off from what we know now.  Absent the spontaneous protests, the organized attack might not have happened that day.  We don't know.


    Was she? There were no big screw-ups, which is a measure of competence I suppose, but I don't think there were many major accomplishments either. I would describe her as steady at the helm but not noteworthy.


    I thought she was Deputy Secretary of State to Netanyahu, but for a Deputy she did pretty well. Actually, I can't think of much that would have changed had someone else been SoS - perhaps Burma would have been different. Did she push the invasion of Libya harder? In Egypt Mubarak would have resigned anyway. I think she sent Putin a couple nastygrams, and then I guess she handled the blind Chinese protester pretty well. Other than that, it's been pretty boring. We could have been much stronger supporting the Arab Spring, but I don't think the administration wanted to.

    We'll see if we ever have time to discuss India & China & other non-Mideast countries, but Bibi threw a tantrum that we weren't paying attention to him 24x7, so we scampered back to prop up his ego.


    I thought it was pretty well concluded there were no protests at the Benghazi consulate, that it was a militant attack on both the consulate and then 1 or 2 safe houses, meaning someone on the inside likely leaked info.


    I think of gravitas in part being the impression on others that derives from being perceived by those others as brilliant, talented, and in possession of authority.  One may be have all of those qualities but not exude a presence to others that reflects this reality.


    in possession of authority

    To me, that's it.

    Whether it's her own personality faults or not (granted, she may have her hands tied by administration,) if she can't manipulate John McCain, Lindsey Graham and Susan Collins diplomatically in a one-on-one, I don't have a lot of hope for her doing it with bigger nasty fish on this planet. Not to mention managing a large arm of our government scattered allover the world.

    I would like to add that although I don't agree with everything in the op-ed  I linked to in the previous paragraph, as a feminist it does strike me that Susan Rice is being defended like a little lady who needs protection and for some reason has not been enabled, or does not have the abilities, to defend herself well. No authority capabilities apparent there.

    (The excuse of "I was just using CIA talking points" is not comforting to me in this regard, this is not what you want in a Sec.. of State, though it is certainly fine for a UN ambassador. The point: she is still being painted as a talking points receiver, not a talking points creator. A dutiful employee, not a boss or even a ruthless go-getter. The type of woman who can't break that glass ceiling. And no one, including her, seems to trying to make an adjustment on this front. Just not coming from a good place to start out as an authoritative Sec. of State.)


    I would argue that "I was just using CIA talking points" is describing her behavior while she a UN ambassador and being used by the administration as a front person to give the talking points.  In the same way, there were plenty of times Hillary Clinton the presidential nominee candidate behaved in ways I wouldn't say were very SoSish. But she was a candidate, not the SoS at that moment.

    Moreover, I think the defending of her has to do with the fact she was operating as spokesperson, saying what others were saying, as opposed to stating her own views or beliefs on the matter.  If it was the latter, then she should be the one defending herself and justifying what she said.  But what else can she say except "I said what I was told to say."

    I would also argue that McCain and Company were going to say what they were going to say after the meeting because of their political agenda.  I don't think Clinton or anyone else could have done a better job in a similar situation.  To use your logic, the way the Republican  leadership would bad mouth Obama after meetings in his first four years would indicate that he would be lousy on the diplomatic stage.


    If Roman virtues are to be a factor in choosing SoS, dignitas, personal clout and influence, would definitely trump gravitas, substance and depth of personality. From a completely removed perspective, Kerry and Rice appear about equal in gravitas while Kerry's dignitas may have a slight edge over Rice.  Hard to say really but his would be personal while hers would be derived from her close association with Obama.

    My 2 cents fwiw.

     


    Meanwhile, in Beltway-world, it's "round up some of the usual suspects."

    And here's Arne's response to Tom.


    Tom Friedman, asshat.

    Lessee, we build schools in Afghanistan, Taliban blows them up and abuses girls going to them. But after 11 years we're turning the corner winning hearts and minds working on staying there past 2014.

    Is Arne Duncan going to get Bibi to stop building settlements, and stop threatening Iran?

    Is Arne Duncan going to wade into a pile of Gazan rubble and hand some young girls "Яeadiиg for Dummiǝs" and tell them to go to college?

    Does Friedman understand the difference between basic education and having jobs & security and freedom from war and rape and exploitive 1st world enterprises?

    Do Friedman think the US would make Israel would lift the embargo on Gaza if everyone in Hamas were educated? Russia has high education - does that make it less of a mafia state?

    Friedman's been a joke for a long time, what with several "Friedman op-ed generators" around, but he's getting truly worse.


    Agree w/Friedman on the need for "improving educational outcomes for more young people". On that basis I would nominate Pete Seeger for Secretary of State. Seeger has Friedman beat by 50 years on advocating education for increased national security:

    Show those generals their fallacy...
    They don't have the right weaponry......

    The world needs teachers, books and schools....


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