Kasich blasts his own party.

     

    If you put a ripe banana to my head and threatened to smash it unless I picked one Republican candidate to vote for, I'd pick Kasich, governor of Ohio. Maybe it's  because I grew up in Ohio before it was populated with Palin fanatics and I still have memories of how life was when folks were reticent to demean others for their behavior, there were high paying jobs in the mills, the speed limit was 55 and the homecoming girls wore Saddle Oxfords. I don't like Kasich's religious bigotry nor the Republican agenda. But Kasich wouldn't allow Texas to secede nor invade Egypt. He is a sane hard nose conservative who wouldn't destroy the economy. As far as politics and policies go, he is the least unsavory Republican candidate, in my opinion.

    Yesterday Kasich unloaded upon his crazy companions in the primary---lambasting the idea of deporting millions of Hispanics, of a flat tax of 10%, of abolishing Medicare and Medicaid, and of screwing people who already have health insurance under Obamacare. Obviously he is setting up a context for tonight's Republican debate. Of course he has to do something outlandish to get attention or his candidacy is over. That's the Trump-era reality. But the reality for the Republican party is that it needs to shift away from this crazy-policy and immigrant-bashing mode if it is ever to win another national presidential election.

    Kasich's new tack probably won't win him the nomination, it may sink his candidacy, or it might give him the inside track to go where Republicans need to be when they start weeding out the Tea Party, quit the Southern Strategy once and for all, and stop bashing minorities, women, and science. Republicans need to wash the dumb out of their hair---I'm reminded of a song which was popular when I lived in Ohio. Kasich might be the start of a reform movement. Compared to Rubio he appears to be more mature, and compared to Jeb---well, less baggage. 

    In tonight's debate I think we'll see the surface ripples of the invisible establishment hand trying to get the Republican presidential election under control and again pursuing the strategy of recent history---which is to appease an unrly base while picking a candidate who can appeal to a centrist minded electorate. But the base might be so dysfunctional that a Rubio or Bush won't work this time around and a carnival barker or insane former surgeon might win the nomination. If so, the Republicans will lose.

    If the Republicans lose this time, it will be a time of reckoning. Kasich might then be seen as the person who didn't mince words about the crazy propositions and proportions in this election. He might then  become the man of the hour for the next national election.

    Or, if Kasich can handle Trump, given that Trump has already ripped the kimonos and kilts off the other candidates, Kasich could be the person to rationalize Republican behavior before it drives the party completely off the rails in this general election.

    Or, Kasich is just today's Republican standout loudmouth who will continue to fizzle out. It will be interesting to see where his new stance takes him, and this election.

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    FACT CHECK GOVERNOR KASICH & HIS CORRUPT STATE WITH THIS!

    https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=47607995    

    I AM A WITNESS TO FEDERAL CRIMES BY THE STATE OF OHIO AGAINST ITS OWN CITIZENS!  I currently have two U.S. Flags Flying Upside Down & Crime Scene Tape on my home in protest for what they have done to us with “Judges Hiding Financial Conflicts of Interest” & Kasich’s refusal to investigate multiple civil rights violations, aggravated theft & RICO Crimes!  Plaintiff BNY Mellon coincidentally had billions in business with Kasich’s last two employers in addition to managing State Pension Plans.  Ohio also refused to provide financial disclosures for disqualification of Judges after I got five other Judges recused including one who for two years in case failed to disclose her husband was essentially employed by BNY.  Sheriff Sale is now scheduled for Nov 9th under name of this very same Judge even though I had her disqualified.  RI.C.O. CRIMES, FALSE CLAIMS & FRAUD BY A PARTY WITH NO LEGAL INTEREST - NO PROBLEM IN KASICH'S OHIO.  One look at my Linkedin Page & you will see I am qualified to make these statements that are backed up by evidence.  So...ask yourself: Is this what you want for your President?  I challenge anyone to investigate this!  It could win an Emmy or Pulitzer Prize for Investigative Journalism.


    Jerry, let me make it clear that I would only pick him if I was hanging by my scotch wingtips over the balcony on the top floor of the Hilton Hotel in Columbus.


    Hi Jerry.

    I feel your pain.

    I am lucky with Dayton running my state and I have said this before.

    Compare Minnesota to Wisconsin for Chrissakes!

    I happen to like Kasich but he is not without sin.

    And you have a really fine point; Kasich would take Ohio in the electoral college and...

    I would never vote for him.

    Trust me! As a VP Candidate, Kasich would scare the bejesus out of me.

    And, well said.


    I really dislike that man.

    I like your post, and agree with everything you say. But I really do not like Kasich.

    And I don't want to try to keep the White House without Ohio.


    I agree with what you say about Oxy's blog and about Kasich but the same logic applied regarding Kasich carries over to Rubio, way more likely to win the nomination, who is even more likely to carry Florida than Bush, I think. ,  


    I was trying to recall whether having these two from the same state, and pivotal state, is an outlier in Republican primary history. They are more or less two sides of a coin. I think if you put their poll numbers together, they would beat Trump (I think Carson will fade---88% of poll respondents who pick him say they're not sure they would actually vote for him.)


    Rubio's numbers fell off the cliff after he got into the Senate.  He is lazy and has not taken care of his state. He won't fare any better then JEB. 


    That is good IMO but somebody in that crowd of discredited jerks is going to win. I expect that it will be one of those who does not come across as quite as crazy as the rest even if that is mere success at imaging. To me that would limit the possibilities to Bush, Kasich, and Rubio. Bush seems to be losing ground while Kasich is gaining and Rubio probably too as he gets lots of nods from the pundits with a national voice.  But, I'm not dismissing the chance that the Republicans will choose extremely poorly, actually that's the only choice they have now, and then carry the national election. Crazier things have happened. 

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    Thanks, Doc. I agree with you, liked him even less when he was in Congress.


    I kind of like the guy; although I have serious reservations.

    But repubs will not turn to him; he refuses to walk the line.

    So does Lindsey.


    Thanks, Mr. Day. I think Kasich wins the prize for blunt criticism of Republicans in this primary race.


    Yes.

    This is one of the reasons that I like this guy.

    He is really the only one who runs against the repub normal; these days at least.

    I like Lindsey AS A PERSON but we would end up in wars, forever; like we do not already!

    Hillary might just use the recent media comments as ads later on.

    Anyway, Hillary represents a new glass ceiling that shall be abolished and hell, why not make Kashich her VP?

    Fantasy. Why not?


    Perfect, Mr​. Day. There is wisdom here---for one of the most difficult things to do in life is to recognize when things have changed.

    The immediate prospect of being dropped from a tall building easily focuses the mind and may improve decision-making but realizing that the ground has shifted on you over time and that you have to take the uncomfortable step of changing yourself and the people and things around you----well, that's not as easy to do.

    I think the Republican "establishment" realizes that the ground has shifted---they just haven't figured out what to do about it. Fortunately.

     And maybe the rank and file realize they're not getting anything for their vote at the national level so they are acting like disgruntled inmates.



    Lulu, thanks for the reference.


    Yeah, the right wing loves, loves, loves to quote that line. But Reagan said it in 1961, 4 years before Medicare passed, 20 years before he became president. In 1988, he signed a major expansion of Medicare into law. Kasich understands Reagan much better than the wingnuts who worship that quote.


    Well history just remains whatever you imagine it is or was!

    Kasich actually reads . hahhahahaha


    REAGAN WAS RIGHT THE FIRST TIME.  AND THE KENYAN USURPER IS NOT GOING TO HAVE THE GOVERNMENT TAKE MY MEDICARE!

    SOCIALISM AND AMERICA -NEVER NO WAY!


    Good piece, Oxy. I don't want Kasich to be president, and I worry that he would be strongest candidate that the Republicans could run, but I have to applaud any Republican who takes on the right wing. The GOP establishment is a pack of cowards.

    (Of course, Kasich has nothing to lose at this point, not exactly a profile in courage.)


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