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    OWS is a Start ... but Now is the Time for Progressives to Speak Up and Speak Out

    The one month anniversary of the Occupy Wall Street movement is a good time to pause to celebrate this surge in public protest over the outrageous economic inequality and corruption that is strangling our prosperity and eroding our democracy.

    But it is extremely important that progressives take advantage of this moment to help shape the message of the potential progressive resurgence now underway, and to help guide what is so far an idealistic but muddled revolt toward a constructive program on behalf of justice, fairness, prosperity, equality and decency.   Now is not the time for sentimental projections of memories of past protest movements onto this new movement.   It is not the time to sit back passively and watch the movement's message emerge.  And it is certainly not the time for silence or passivity in the face of outcroppings of ugly or potentially evil developments within the movement.

    Populist revolts are always fraught with the potential for both progress toward justice on the one hand and ugliness and barbarity on the other.   In the turmoil of rebellion, it is hard to say which factions and tendencies will ultimately emerge victorious to lay claim to the mantle of leadership.  People of conscience thus have to fight for the triumph of the right.

    To give one small indication of a not-very-pleasant turn this movement could take, consider the following:  There is a new moderated website called "The Multitude" which sees itself as part of the the OWS.  One of the posts on the site is called "Suggestions for demands that could be made by the movement."  So far the post has received seven replies, not of which is critical.  This is disturbing, since the list of ten suggestions constitutes a manifesto of right-wing xenophobic populism and white resentment, with only a couple of progressive items thrown in:

    http://www.themultitude.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=322

    One has to read the whole post to understand fully where the autor is coming from.  But here in abbreviated form is the suggested list:

    1. Make English the official and only legal language of the United States, for any and all public communications, commerce, and transactions.

    2. Completely outlaw outsourcing, of any kind.

    3. Immediately stop affirmative action, which is one of the reasons that employers have turned to outsourcing.

    4. Stop all immigration, both illegal and legal, and deport all illegal immigrants, "including their illegal spouses, children (including all “anchor babies”, who would not be here if their parent(s) had not entered the country illegally, in the first place), and any illegal extended family members."

    5. Go to a straight flat tax, for state, federal, and local tax systems, with no exemptions or deductions, of any kind, for any reason, for anybody.

    6. Immediately “grandfather” out the Social Security system, which has been a huge pyramid scheme, from the very start.

    7. Radically change the way that loans and mortgages are structured in America.

    8. Fund all truly practical alternative methods of transportation, and of energy production; such as solar, wind, and nuclear (both fission and fusion) energy, clean burning Coal, etc., as well as drilling for oil and natural gas wherever and whenever we can.

    9. Completely phase out the system of welfare in this country.

    I’ll quote at length from this last proposal, because it’s a doozy:

    “These programs have turned into huge, out of control, multi-generational baby breeding operations. There is absolutely no incentive for women on welfare to not keep having multiple children, as fast as they can be produced, with whatever biological “father” happens to be available at the time."

    “Potential mothers will need to realize that they will now have to actually go out and work to support each additional child (just the way it is in the rest of families), rather than live off of the current system, which simply piggybacks all cradle-to-grave costs of each of these additional children, one after the other, with no limit, onto the mother’s monthly payments. This is how generations of welfare recipients have made a living, and it has to stop."

    “In addition, this system has bred children from parents who are barely able to function, and those children are then also barely able to function, and are less able to do so, with each generation that is created from out of an increasingly weakened gene pool."

    10. Take back our system of elections, and ensure that it truly becomes a system of one person, one vote.  The President and Vice-President should be elected by a national, strictly popular vote, held in all 50 states and the District of Columbia.  The practice of cumulative voting must be curtailed immediately, and all of the elections decided using that dictatorial process must be declared null and void.

    It is fair to point out that a single blog post on a single blog that purports to see itself as a part of the Occupy Wall Street movement by no means represents that movement.  On the other hand, it is equally fair and important to recognize that here is as yet no "real" OWS, no authoritative core message beyond the bare notion that Wall Street oligarchs are greedy and the 1% are sticking it to the 99%, since the movement prides itself on the purity of its process and the absence on articlulated demands are goals.

    Since the message of this movement is still contested and is still taking shape, progressives need to get very busy in the contest.

    Comments

    Thanks for keeping us posted, Dan. That's a diverse set of demands.


    Reads Libertarian to me.


    Worse than that.  Seems like very hard core xenophobic nationalism - more like Buchanan.  The libertarians generally have an open borders attitude about immigration, for example, and support freetrade, not protectionist bans on outsourcing.


    I don't see it as very diverse Oxy.  Except for the call to fund alternative energy, it's basically classic right-wing Tea Party stuff - nearly fascist, in fact, in its repulsive racism and xenophobia.  I thought when I posted it, everyone's alarm bells would go off.  What the hell?

    A lot of progressives and liberals seem to be totally intimidated and dumfounded intellectually by the confused and confusing phenomenon of OWS, and are falling into thumb-sucking cognitive dissonance in attempting to reconcile the beautiful and ugly strains in one pretty and safe mental package.

    The ugliness is real.  Denounce it!  Kick it to the curb.   Progressives need to demand a movement for justice, progress, peace, social solidarity and decency.   Don't be intimidated.  Just say NO to the:

    - gun nuts

    - racists

    - xenophobes

    - militia-men

    - Tea Partiers

    - safety net haters

    who are out to insinuate themselves into and co-opt a populist revolt against Wall Street, and turn it into rightist insurrection.

    Are liberals out to self-mock themselves with a confirmation of the claim that a liberal is a person whose is so tolerant as allow the poisoner of his own children into his own house?  Why are so many putting up with, or averting their eyes from, this loathsome Tea Party crap?

    Lie down with dogs; get up with fleas.  But this time the fleas have guns and muscle, and are seething with all too human hatred and a craving for vengeance.

    Here's more evidence of the creeping, militant Tea Party-ization of part of OWS:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rjOwSIsgE8c


    - xenophobes

    Yes, they do exist.

    Not everyone that wants limits on immigration is an xenophobe.

    The left is turning many away, with this fear mongering tactic.


    The author whose post I quoted did not suggest "limits" on immigration.  He said we shoud end all immigration, legal and illegal.


    I thought when I posted it, everyone's alarm bells would go off.  What the hell?

    My guess is that for most here at dagblog, it was so obviously over the top that most didn't feel the need to acknowledge it. There are many excellent blogs here that generate few comments not because they're poorly written but because they're well written and everyone agrees.


    Well put!


    I agree that this is a moment for progressives to get into action and let their activity be echoed by some in the Occupy movement rather than wait for the movement to lead them.

    I am completely against the idea of having demands.  I have seen all over the place people present their ideas of demands.  In fact I think Occupy Denver voted on a set of demands they 'thought' were from Occupy Wall Street but were actually put forward by one person and not officially from OWS.  And I read again on some more recent General Assembly minutes that they were going to be meeting to review some Wall Street demands.  So I wonder again are there official demands coming out of OWS or just some ideas some people agree being lobbied for?

    There is a working group for Mission and Goals in Occupy Boulder.  Someone expressed an objection to trying to develop shared vision, mission, and goals until 'more people join'.

    I explained that there is so much diversity of opinion on what to do and how to get there that we would be well off to at least begin with the people we have now and at the same time hold some attention on having them be something we feel the majority of Americans would support (especially without corporate brainwashing).

    I have gone through the process of discovering shared vision, mission, and goals with diverse crowds using open space technology a few times.  It really is about coming up with 'shared' vision, mission, and goals and I think if people realized that, they might relax a little.


    I think Oxy Mora has the right idea with the preamble. Start with the "vision", the simple thing that people can agree on as a worthwhile goal. Just as with brainstorming, don't get bogged down on the possible, envision the ideal. (This can be difficult for me sometimes.) After we get people unified around the ideal, then it's time to look at the steps we can take to meet that ideal, with each step needing to be analyzed for both its practicality and its adherence to the ideal. I'd like to think that "English as an official language" (for example) fails on both of those coutns.


    Yes, and waiting for OWS to come up with such a vision is like the "waiting for Superman" phenomenon all over again.


    Perhaps, but what is the alternative? If that alternative does not involve OWS, then why not? There's a competition here for the soul of this movement, and in your corner it appears the "wrong people" are winning. Of course, they're not (mostly) evil people, they're angry, misinformed people. Some of them can be won over, but I don't think it will be easy or quick. The more one tries to force it, the more they will resist. I don't know what the answer is, so just take this for as little as its worth.


    Thanks, VA. I'll just toss in one observation. After I did the preamble, and from it's premise of an "Ah-ha--this is self evident" moment, also trying to keep in the back of my mind the diversity of 99% and the original focus of "Wall St.", I  found that almost by accident I had written something which not only identified some major grievances, but that was by nature more inclusive of the 99% than I had really intended.  I then tried to read it from a Tea Party or Libertarian perspective and thought that it would not be all that objectionable.

    But then of course, come the action items which is where the oxen get gored. But even here there may be more inclusive ground than we might suspect.    


    Well, some of us still are fortunate to have the kind of day jobs which, even if we don't have dependents to care for at home, would pretty severely limit our ability to spend a great deal of time at an Occupy site, getting to know people there, investing the time in building relationships with them, and getting involved FTF. 

    The group purports to represent the interests of the 99%.  How might more of the 99% practically be able to find a way to participate in Occupy?  This question has been something I've been considering as I consider how I might be able to get involved in some way. 

    I'm wondering if individual Occupy sites--or perhaps multiple or many of the Occupy sites as a kind of collaborative group project--might be able to set up and publicize an online place where others of the 99% who for whatever factors cannot or are not physically at Occupy sites, but want to participate in some way, could share stories of how their and their loved ones' circumstances have been impacted by their job and broader economic circumstances.  This could do be done not just through writing, a medium which many are uncomfortable with, but thru videos, sequenced pictures, and probably in all manner of other ways which people who have something they want to communicate find to do so.

    99% is a number, a statistic.  Beyond that number and that statistic lie stories of human beings who are suffering or have suffered greatly.  Many may not believe that a differently organized economy, one with different values reflected in different policies and practices, could have made or could make their lives a little bit better, a little bit less frantic.  Surely there is no societal economic setup in which all suffering is avoidable.  But equally surely, some of it is.  The AIDS activists had their quilt project, which had a highly physical and not just virtual manifestation.  That seemed highly effective in putting a face on a human problem many preferred to ignore. 

    I don't know just what such a project might lead to, or how.  But getting more stories told and available to others might be one way to engage many more who are very much affected by the way the U.S. economy currently operates, regardless of whether they now perceive or realize that or not. 

    I'm not suggesting there is a policy solution for every human woe, no. 

    Nor am I unmindful of the potential of such a project to be perceived by those unsympathetic to it as solely an effort to document a kind of victimization many would see as pathetic.  On this latter point, though, I don't think the results of such a project would lead most to such a conclusion.  Quite to the contrary.  Those who have not been emotionally or physically destroyed by their circumstances are for the most part striving heroically to survive and cope and move forward. 

    This is the upside, if you will, of Americans' philosophical disdain of even their own government.  Some of which comes from a resolute spirit that seeks self-sufficiency and detests the idea of dependence on anyone or anything.  If Occupy leads to positive policy changes amounting to a more humane and better economic system and society, it will be because it or other efforts have some success in modifying some pretty deeply held predominant American conceptions of what freedom really is, and what is its true extent in our day-to-day lives.  I think it's possible for some people, anyway, to come to realize that they are not in all ways the Captains of their own ships, that they never will be, and that they might actually be able to live a happy and rewarding life, with a strong sense of personal efficacy and autonomy, after having coming to realize that. 


    I've been mulling over the same issues. I know OWS was an effort to get noticed, but we need more of an Occupy America movement for those who are working and raising families, but sympathetic to the situation.


    What about calling it "Occupy the in-law's"

    --that is, until I can find a job, use my college degree, pay off my student loan, find a girl friend and get an apartment of my own.

    Sadly, this is the state of affairs for many of the younger generation.


    Great ideas!


    How about calling it something like "Occupy the Public Sphere" or "Occupy the Conversation"?


    I have absolutely no talent in the area of (any area, actually, but among them...) coming up with really useful, galvanizing, catchy names for things.  So of course I'll toss out a few that come to mind on reading your question:

    Occupy our Democracy

    Re-Occupy our Democracy

    Re-Occupy American Democracy

    I have some reservations about use of the term "Occupy", as have been expressed by you and others here.  Perhaps something other than "occupy" could emerge from the pack of ideas and thinking. 

    "Occupy the Public Sphere" is probably too wonky, don't you think?  Who the hell in this country might ever use the phrase "the public sphere" [what public sphere?  You mean, there's a public sphere in this country?  Where is it?  Am I invited?  What should I wear?   Can I buy it and flip it for a nice profit?] other than nerds like you and me and a few others here and elsewhere who The Cool Kids never acknowledged back in high school?  

    OTOH, "conversation", or some other word that evokes engagement and sociality...might be a kernel there.   


    Occupy Each Other



    FWIW, FDL has been doing a daily "Faces of the Occupation" (or something like that) highlighting an individual very similar to what you envision. Haven't followed it daily or anything, but I'd describe the impact as mixed ... really do have to be careful with the subject selection.

    There are also a few different groups taking up donations and whatnot to get folks needed supplies - which is another good way to help, I'd imagine.

    I'm still processing the whole thing. Have no idea if it will be directly impactful or if it's more of a precursor to something else. But all and all, I think the protesters are totally worth supporting.

    (hey! There's no spellchek anymore? As if I'm not illiterate enough already ... gaaa)..


    Thanks for the heads up.  I wouldn't have known otherwise as I don't hang out there.


    I once taught a drama class with 80 students.  Maybe 10 or 15 had prior actor training.  Our goal was to mount four productions over four months:  even more important, every person would have a part in at least two of the productions.  And no, they were not large cast shows.

    I guess you could say with a preponderance of engineering, history, physics, fine arts, and even phys ed majors, the best we could hope for was anarchy.  Yes, everyone was in it for a different reason.  Some wanted a new experience.  Others wanted to be in a show.  Or be with their friends.  Or take a bird course.  Or be part of something ground-breaking.

    I never saw my role as trying to galvanize a group spirit, or rallying cry, or the Show Must Go On sort of Glee Club Solution.  Instead, what I tried to figure out was what everyone was good at and what they liked to do.  Based on this information, one of our shows evolved into a synchronized swimming performance, with the phys ed gals coaching and choreographing the moves.  Another evolved into a night-long performance based on the Grave-digger scene in Hamlet, with the actors digging a 6' hole, based on plans provided by our team of engineers. 

    I believe things threaten to devolve into disorder when individuals are not, shall we say, suitably 'occupied.'  I'm commenting from a distance (sadly), but I would say that thematic unity probably counts less in the Occupy Movement than people finding stuff they're good at to contribute.  What groups/bodies need to establish is what individual 'occupants' have to offer and how they can be made to feel that their presence adds something to the effort.

    I like the name Occupy just fine.  Colonialism gave it a bad name, but--going back to the Latin--there's nothing wrong with taking over a space, especially if you (and yours) don't leave it unnecessarily fallow.


    Occupy Oakland was raided this morning. Tear gas, rubber bullets, flash grenades:

    http://www.occupyoakland.org/

    http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/18100259

    Is it 1968 again?


    This has me wondering about the gas that is being used. A bit more than forty years ago I was exposed to C.S. tear gas. It was very hard to take. Later, in 1968 actually, I was around a sand bag bunker in which a tear gas grenade had been let off about a month previously. I had to be in it for about ten minutes. On first entering I did not notice any strong odor but in just a few seconds my eyes began watering and it got worse the longer I was in. Later my neck became red and irritated where my collar had rubbed. If what is being used now for crowd control among the business buildings is the same stuff, a quick skim of Wiki did not suggest a difference, there are going to be some long term effects which are going to piss off a lot of people who have to work in those surrounding buildings.


    Fox in Dallas just covered the release of 27 people taken into custody for occupying a Chase Bank. The coverage focused on an out of work bar tender, tatoos up his neck, ball cap on backwards, couldn't wait to light up when he was freed-plus some equally unattractive cohorts. But they were well spoken.


    It doesn't seem like anyone who has embraces it is contesting the message of this movment - either a person supports it and brings their message or they don't.

    Only way to shape the message is to join the movement and add your voice - if there are many who feel like you do, the message you bring will ring out loud and clear. Your message is already welcome ... it really seems as if what you want is for the movment to ensure nobody who disagrees with you is.

    Desire for imposed structure as you seem to envision it is likely destined to never be realized. If that's not OK with you to be a part of - relax and enjoy the show and don't have a heart-attack over it. I also would be very surprised to see this energy successfully captured as votes for establishment partisans - this is a pressure/protest movement not the time to ask for establishment votes.

    If you are correct and there really are millions and millions of people that feel just like you (which, with 300+ million Americans, I certainly don't doubt) - why don't you folks do something really big that better matches y'all's temperments while advancing some sort of accountability and economic adjustment to meet OWS in the middle? {yes, that's two apostrophies. One word. Some pro work there, friends!} Although, if by your rules people can't even get together and decide to close personal bank accounts with a legendary corporate bad actor - not sure what, exactly, you'd allow in terms of accountability when push comes to shove.


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