Who won

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                                   Obama              Romney

    Fox News                  65                   35

    CNN                          46                   39

    CBS                           37                  30

    Google                       48                   31

    Gallup 10/17              65                  35

    Flavius comment

    For the second debate in a row the republican was caught lying. In Macy's window.

    Tonight's embarrassment

    Romney: At first Obama tried to pretend  Benghazi was not a terror attack

    Crowley:Obama called it a terror attack  during a "rose garden" press conference the next morning.    

     

    During the VP debate

    Ryan: the stimulus was just a device for the administration to corruptly divert funds to their supporters

    Biden: You sent me two requests

     

    Flavius: it's one thing to say your opponents are liars.It's quite another thing for 50 million people to observe them.

     

     

            

    Comments

    Obama and thus we are champions

     


    Are you sure you have those Fox News numbers right?


    Incredible aint it?

    I just could not stand more than a couple minutes today at FOX so I did not see how they spun that one!


    Well, if you're already over your quota, you'll need to save this for another day:

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/10/17/romney-won-second-debate/

    I did find one "Fox News" site that claims Obama won the second debate, but notice that it's the Latino version:

    http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politics/2012/10/17/aggressive-obama-pe...


    I checked their web site and in exchange for voting yourself they gave you the count up to that point. Dunno how their final total worked out. I'll go back to their site and see.


    By now they've taken down the site which I accessed last night on which in exchange for my vote they gave me the count I showed above. Now they've got Dick Morris,Karl Rove and  a full pool of performing seals explaining why Mitt was master.


    And yet the polls are where they are. The race is a dead heat. How can that POSSIBLY be?


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