MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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Iowa Woman Who Hit Black 12-Year-Old and Latina Teen With Her SUV Sentenced to 25 Years in Prison
By rmrd0000 on Mon, 05/31/2021 - 9:05am |Nicole Poole Franklin, the white supremacist from Des Moines, Iowa, who on Dec. 9, 2019, hit a Black 12-year-old boy with her SUV and, on the same day, ran over a 14-year-old girl and admitted she did it because she thought the girl “was a Mexican,” has been sentenced to 25 years in prison after pleading guilty in April to two counts of attempted murder.
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https://www.theroot.com/iowa-woman-who-hit-black-12-year-old-and-latina-teen-wi-1847000952
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Great unbiased reporting there
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 05/31/2021 - 9:57am
It's almost comical how you MUST post some negative reaction (talk about bias) to literally every single post RM puts up.
by NCD on Mon, 05/31/2021 - 10:38am
Are you RM's bitch now?
From The Root awful reporting:
But sure, NCD, go ahead and defend citing shitty write-ups - hell, what else did you have to do today?
(by the way,the author can suck my white dick - my little compromise to crappy race-baiting woke dumbfucks. Of course I'll sterilize it afterwards, who knows where his trash-mouth's been.)
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 05/31/2021 - 12:14pm
now that you bring it up, I must say that I do find The Root comically biased in that it purports to be a publication that covers the concerns of Afro-Americans by reporting on the results of rare hate crimes against Afro-Americans while at the same time nearly totally ignoring the problem of an epidemic of daily mayhem and slaughter by young Afro-American males with guns against other Afro-Americans.
by artappraiser on Mon, 05/31/2021 - 12:19pm
He is comical
Note: He has no problem doing a tag team act with AA
I really don't understand his anger
by rmrd0000 on Mon, 05/31/2021 - 1:12pm
Typical classic AA, the typical boilerplate right wing distraction of 'concern' about gun violence in black communities, with never a mention of guns as GOP campaign props for decades, in a nation drowning in shootings, white and black,, Republicans culture wars ginning up of gun 'rights', fear, hate, and support for guns and battlefield weapons for anyone, everyone, anywhere.
AA classic #2, right wing whine words "cancel culture" and presto, Red Guards "come to mind":
"Just came to mind: Is the Chinese kiddies learnin' the correct message about disastrous cancel culture in the past, or are they not taught that lesson because the government likes to use similar techniques to cancel inconvenient cultures, say like that of Uighurs. I was looking for a picture. Instead I found this from 2014:
Not comical, just another right wing fever swamps moment. link
by NCD on Mon, 05/31/2021 - 4:12pm
Well gee, so AA needs to point out the GOP's infatuation with 2A & NRA & guns each time she addresses mass shootings largely in black neighborhoods? Did the GOP force these rappers and hoods to buy guns? Do they rap about the 2nd Amendment? Yes, gun control would be nice, but you think the guys doing the shootings will be deterred by plain gun checks, vs buying on the street?
Re: Chinese red guards, she said she was hunting up a photo, & ran into this 7-year-old faux Cultural Revolution mockup. I remember reading about the empowered antiintellectuals in 68, how they'd maraud and intimidate and sometimes beat up or put on work detail people who didn't fit the mold - the Youth League sees all. So do the new grads see the horror in the Cultural Revolution when 10 million were killed or is it just good times retro, lots of yucks? A lot of professors being fired & going into re-education camps to inspire this little slice-of-history selfie (of course not as harsh as Pol Pot's version - he always overdid it, didn't he? Wear glasses, you book reading smartass? Off to the Killing Fields with you! When I was in Cambodia, i noticed pretty much no one wore glasses, unlike say China, which gave me a really creepy feeling - like weak eyes had been largely removed from the genetic pool, the rough way).
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 05/31/2021 - 4:33pm
I think it's like this: NCD has no idea how much he hurts his rep as someone with intelligence when he lapses into his simplistic political persona of the only evil people in the whole world are Republicans. To me it's like he just came out of a coma that started in 1994, certainly less meaningful and of less use than what's covered on The Root.
He admitted once that he had no interest in reading up on Woke and CRT theory and the like when I was keeping a long thread on it. Isn't it the case that people who have no knowledge of something should refrain from opining on it and not assume it's harmless and not like other movements in history? Just sayin'
Edit to add: just so happens where a lot of the shooting is going on in "the black community" is not only "blue" territory BUT WHERE GUNS ARE ALREADY ILLEGAL! So the whole gun control issue is MOOT as regards same. If they weren't coming from other states where they are legal, they'd be coming from Mexico like many are coming from already, just like the drugs that are also against the law.
by artappraiser on Mon, 05/31/2021 - 5:06pm
Spoken as a typically self righteous, self obsessed, sop for right wing propaganda, largely if not totally indifferent to all that your Party has done in the past, and is eagerly working on now to expand, to subvert democracy, irreversibly damaging this nation.
by NCD on Mon, 05/31/2021 - 8:32pm
When you mention cancel culture, Liz Cheney and Mitt Romney come to mind
I agree with you, we get whines about the Woke, while Republicans steal democracy in front of our very eyes.
A majority of Republicans believe Trump is the true President
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/53-republicans-view-trump-true-us-president-reutersipsos-2021-05-24/
28% of Republicans think violent action maybe require to get their country back
https://www.newsweek.com/28-republicans-think-us-so-off-track-true-patriots-may-have-resort-violence-1596133
The current Republicans in Congress wasn't to bury the insurrection of January 6th
There was a similar attempt to erase the history of Tulsa
Lets yell about 1619 Project
Obviously, the Woke are the true evil.
Edit to add:
There is a similar attempt to erase Emmett Till
https://www.npr.org/2019/08/28/755024458/why-don-t-y-all-let-that-die-telling-the-emmett-till-story-in-mississippi
But attack the 1619 Project
by rmrd0000 on Mon, 05/31/2021 - 9:06pm
Uh, we post about "Stop the Steal" and other Jan 6-related continuing insurrection/undermining democracy every day. Note my Trump Scandals and Russian Interference thread to the left as just one outlet. We can chew gum and walk - just not sure how 1619 and 1921 relate so much.
[note: it's a good thing highlighting anti-boack atrocities a century ago - it's just a horrid shame 100 years later black thugs and idiots are doing much of the same to their own.
I was thinking about the 80s/90s - we had a lot of gang and drig-related violence, but we don't have the *senseless* violence we have today - it's gone crazy out there.
by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 06/01/2021 - 1:13am
You and AA are the ones yelling about 1619.
Edit to add:
1921 reminds of our history
There is still a battle over how survivors should be treated.
by rmrd0000 on Tue, 06/01/2021 - 8:14am
Survivors just survive, like thru all of history. It's not like millions of Syrians had it great going to Europe, but perhaps better than Afghanis resettling in Pakistan.
by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 06/01/2021 - 8:17am
I'll go with the fact that President Biden is visiting Tulsa today
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-biden-tulsa-massacre-100th-anniversary_n_60b6037ce4b01de8b7873e70
by rmrd0000 on Tue, 06/01/2021 - 8:20am
Ok, fine, and what?
by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 06/01/2021 - 11:14am
that's in the article
It's insulting to keep repeating shit. It's like your strawman thing, you're angry and you want to argue with someone who is not here.
by artappraiser on Tue, 06/01/2021 - 1:55pm
In this instance I might use the example of individual Holocaust survivors, they aren't looking for anything other than people listen to and care about their story, pay attention to them, and take it as true history, instead of making up denialist conspiracy theories.
Here's an example of that sort of person right here: "it means everything"
They like that $30 million is being spent on people paying attention to the story for its 100th anniversary. Not complaining.
People like rmrd on the other hand, seem to want more, some kind of bowing and scraping by white people as they are all related somehow to the people who perpetrated the massacre and its coverup? Is like making all people with German heritage responsible for the Holocaust.
Then there's this "Black Panther" armed march type stuff. Like militant Israelis "in yo face never again" basically "fuck all of youse we're never going to trust you again". Usually sympathetic people find this real counter-productive (again, see Israel in its current incarnation.) Some just think a fighting tribal stance will get them somewhere, I guess.
by artappraiser on Tue, 06/01/2021 - 2:12pm
p.s. Netanyahu could use a variant of this chant from the article for a slogan:
by artappraiser on Tue, 06/01/2021 - 2:15pm
Link? as regards me here You and AA are the ones yelling about 1619.
by artappraiser on Tue, 06/01/2021 - 3:07pm
that's strawman stuff, I AM SO SICK OF YOUR STRAWMAN STUFF, making people in this tiny group into the demons you want to fight. WHY DON'T YOU JUST GO AND FIGHT WHERE THERE'S THE REAL DEMONS YOU WANT TO FIGHT? I dio not want to be your toy to make into a simplistic strawman to fight with. WHAT YOU DON'T GET: PP and I don't use this place to fight political battles, we're using it to analyze news. When we get into our own beliefs and preferences, we have NO (as in zero) illusions about fighting it out, it is merely to gauge how it may affect how we interpret the news. THIS IS NOT POLITICAL, IF YOU WANT POLITICAL, go elsewhere or bring some new ones in to fight with. MHO, you chased them all away with your strawman technique, so there's that.
right here you're trying to prove PP has some nefarious political purpose in pointing out "well, it's history, it's over" which is just his honest opinion of the situation and not intended to be a political fight. You drag it out because we and argue and argue and argue because we don't fit your stereotypes of the political enemies you want. Here's the thing you just don't get: we are not here for political activism. We are here to analyze and deconstruct what's going on in the news. If you want fights with political activists, you have to recruit them to come here and start threads and sections and then you can battle it out with them. Or just going to like Daily Kos or The Root would be way easier for you!
by artappraiser on Tue, 06/01/2021 - 3:19pm
Rm is right. He should stay right here.
Your intolerant ranting, your posts of 'bias confirming' events, opinions, endless tsunami of posts already dominate this site.
It is a ridiculous know-nothingism to say "history is over".
History is a record of events, it is only political when it is erased, suppressed, excused or ignored, EXACTLY what you and PP seem to love to do.
by NCD on Tue, 06/01/2021 - 4:02pm
The intolerance is the point.
by rmrd0000 on Tue, 06/01/2021 - 4:50pm
Uh, rmrd posted hundreds of items for Black History Month - how the fuck do I "erase" or "suppress" him? Did I "excuse" Tulsa or suggest "ignoring" it? Lockdown has you going a bit giddy - go get some air.
by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 06/01/2021 - 5:25pm
In the Black History Month posts, you injected yourself to ridicule the posts with cartoon mice.
You remove content
In the case of Tulsa, you say survivors simply survive
You then suggest that it is not big deal that President Biden is coming to make an address.
No one expects an overnight solution, but attention is being drawn to an event the powers that be wanted to hide.
by rmrd0000 on Tue, 06/01/2021 - 5:32pm
God, if you can't interpret people's comments worth a shit, accept it and we work around it. Orion has some issues, we deal with it in a way that we can still talk news, not climb all over each other, share opinions. Uh yeah, it's a good tribute for Biden to go to Tulsa for a piece of ugly Americana that was ignored before. "powers that be" don't want them hidden. You posted 100s if items & i posted 1 cartoon when you and wasshisname were getting some full of yourselves - have ego will travel. Yes, I'm a moderator - part of my function here is removing content for whatever reason. Don't like it? Go start a blog of your own - lots ow WordPress sites available, costs you maybe $5 a month, can do whatever you want, you'll be king, name on masthead and everything.
by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 06/01/2021 - 5:44pm
RE: Edit to add:
1921 reminds of our history
There is still a battle over how survivors should be treated.
The article says that. I posted it. And no one disagrees. So what is this about wih you? Are you trying to argue? I'm not interested.
Or you are do a summary for third graders? I'm not interested. I find that insulting. I am not a third grader needing a summary.
That's why I posted the actual WaPo article for grownups.
How about thinking before you write or going elsewhere where the strawmen in your mind actually are?
Yes, we took over an abandoned website with the owner's permission and he has given PP along with everyone else on the masthead who doesn't come here anymore the keys to the website.
So PP's the boss. He wants us to use threads to analyze the news. You don't seem to get the program and don't want to play it the same way. He's been very accomodating to you, mho. I wish he were tougher, because you want to use if for your purposes.BUT HERE'S THE THING: THE OWNER DID NOT GIVE YOU THE KEYS.
by artappraiser on Tue, 06/01/2021 - 4:04pm
It's not all about you.
by NCD on Tue, 06/01/2021 - 4:01pm
that's correct, it's about PP and what he wants on the site and how he wants people to post it. LIKE A TEAM OF PEOPLE ANALYZING THE NEWS. Not political activists fighting against one another's ideologies
by artappraiser on Tue, 06/01/2021 - 4:06pm
If it is all about PP, then it is not about a group analyzing events.
by rmrd0000 on Tue, 06/01/2021 - 4:51pm
It is about people not acting like kindergarten era and actually talking about news & other events in ways that interest others. Magical, no?
by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 06/01/2021 - 5:27pm
Texas Sheriff: White Supremacist Plotted to Shoot Up Walmart
https://www.thedailybeast.com/texas-sheriff-white-supremacist-coleman-blevins-plotted-to-shoot-up-walmart?ref=home
by rmrd0000 on Mon, 05/31/2021 - 1:13pm
again I posted on this story on the Crime thread, because it's: CRIME, I think that's where it belongs
You, on the other hand
(while ironically, hypocritically chiding me for including a story here about a coalition between a BLM group and libertarian Boogaloos marching together in Virginia Beach for protecting oneself with guns, just like the new Black Panther group in Tulsa was promoting not trusting the government and protecting oneself with guns)
seem invested in promoting a narrative that you can't trust this country, that a white supremacy is running it, and all black people got to look out for that!
WHAT'S FUNNY HERE? Well, you posted a story that Texas sheriffs ARRESTED this guy. POLICING WORKS. POLICING IS NECESSARY if you are to have government POLICING IS NECESSARY if you want guys like this arrested.
Really at a certain point you've got to decide which side you are on, bro. You say you are a Democrat but you don't promote a big tent narrative. Instead you continually post and promote a libertarian black narrative. That all white people are out to get ya 100 years ago and it's still the same today. Isn't the way to big tent, winning elections and such. Is basically secessionist. No different than Oath Keepers and Proud Boys who don't trust the gummint either. (By the way, this narrative was not even true 100 years ago-Tulsa was not the entire U.S. and vice-versa- but that's another thing.)
You have Texas sheriffs arresting extremists who are white and might be white supremacists, proving what? What it proves: the story Texas of today is not Tulsa of 100 years ago. On the other hand, militant blacks marching armed says what: Tulsa today is the same as Tulsa of 100 years ago, you can't trust whitey, you can't trust the police, you can't trust the government, we're gonna protect ourselves with guns.
Whatever that is, it's not Democratic party big tent. It's libertarian. AND THE BOOGALOOS BOIS know that, they 100% know that hardcore BLM theory is on their side and are their natural allies. Ask any extremist expert! That's exactly why J.J. MacNab tweeted the Tulsa and Virginia Beach armed protest stories one right after the other.
by artappraiser on Tue, 06/01/2021 - 2:47pm