MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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Police Identify Lone Las Vegas Shooter As Stephen Paddock (mystery man so far)
By artappraiser on Mon, 10/02/2017 - 10:22am |[....] Paddock had no history of criminality that would raise red flags, police said.
“All of the checks that we have been able to do other than a routine traffic violation here in Nevada and nationwide working with our local FBI partners have been able to find no derogatory history on that individual,” Undersheriff Kevin McMahill said. “It’s one of those really sad, tragic things that a man that’s 64 years old that really had no other reason that we can find at least in his history here to go out and wound that many people.”
Eric Paddock, the suspect’s brother who lives in Orange County, Florida, told the Orlando Sentinel: “We are completely dumbfounded. We can’t understand what happened.” [....]
According to USA Today, Paddock bought his current residence in Mesquite, about 80 miles from Vegas, in 2015. The Sun City Mesquite senior complex features 1,400 homes, an 18-hole golf course, swimming pools and a recreation center.
Paddock owned two airplanes and had a private pilot’s license, according to public records. Meanwhile police had located his companion, Marilou Danley, “a person of interest,” and cleared her of involvement, according to reports. [....]
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/las-vegas-shooter-stephen-paddock_us_59d1fec6e4b09538b5093cbf
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Gun manufacturers prices on Wall Street are surging as Americans buy more guns after gun massacres.
From the fire rate and casualties, the guy likely used a legal single pull stock modification assault weapon add-on like Bumpfire or Slidefire, which can convert many carbines that hold 100 round magazines to 600 rounds a minute, or the whole 100 rounds in 10 seconds. See YouTube for dozens of videos on the rapid fire rate for these under $100 devices.
The assault guns, the over 10 clips/magazines, and the rapid fire stock converters were all illegal nationwide under the Clinton Assault Weapons Ban, which GWB and the GOP let them expire in early 2000s.
by NCD on Mon, 10/02/2017 - 3:00pm
Re: gun sales after massacres. I was thinking: what the hell crazy excuse are pro-assault weapon people going to make on this one? I mean along the lines of how ex-daglog member Resistance used to argue that if the people in the crowd (or like, in Africa in a raid) had a gun, they would have been able to shoot the perp right away. In this case, that would mean you would somehow have to have people carrying automatic rifles with a 400-yard range along with them to music concerts, and they better be sharpshooters as well....back to minutemen days indeed.
This one could indeed be the one that finally changes things about some more regulation. Not on handguns, which, mho, are really the things that really need to be fully licensed for the gun death levels to go down, but on automatic weapons (or ammunition for them). Won't affect numbers that much, but it will be something.
And I do think the NRA is correct in fearing that any break in the NRA's wall against regulation will make it easy to apply more. I'm all for it. It will be as simple (or complicated, if that's the way one thinks) as licensing drivers and registering automobiles. (That includes regulating the black market--we don't have much of a problem with black market automobiles.) Breaches no freedoms to my mind, we don't have to be Europe to vastly reduce the gun deaths: hunt all you want, practice shooting all you want, shoot intruders all you want (subject to being tried later for doing it improperly), as you are licensed. Which means as you've not broken related laws or have a major applicable handicap (like severe mental illness--Trump, no gun license for you.)
by artappraiser on Mon, 10/02/2017 - 3:47pm
one of the musicians in the show:
Tweet quote from
Country Music Stars Recoil in Shock at Las Vegas Shooting
By Niraj Chokshi & Joe Coscarelli @ NYTimes.com, Oct. 2
by artappraiser on Mon, 10/02/2017 - 7:49pm
Let's hope this sentiment goes viral. Dem-splainin doesnt seem to help, just another brownie point in the culture wars.
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 10/02/2017 - 10:06pm
Roseanne Cash: Country Musicians, Stand Up to the N.R.A., guest op-ed @ NYTimes.com, Oct. 3
by artappraiser on Tue, 10/03/2017 - 10:20pm
The genetic issue raises it's ugly head:
Vegas Shooter’s Father Was Armed Robber on FBI’s Most Wanted List
By Ed Kilgore @ nymag.com,
and elsewhere; I actually just saw the tape on CNN of his brother confirming this.
by artappraiser on Mon, 10/02/2017 - 3:50pm
So let's see the research for the criminal gene, the Bad Seed. Bank robbery and gambling are gateway
drugschromisomes for callous premeditated mass slaughter? Who knew. If they'd seuqenced that Columbine kid in kindergarten rather than high school, might have forestalled a rampage. And that Drumpf character... INS genetics dept?Guess can put away those lead leading to violence studues now too...
by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 10/03/2017 - 11:08pm
Not a Machine Gun! Legal is states with no weapons bans, note how the shooter holds the trigger finger steady, and the recoil moves the weapon to fire the next round.
Not too accurate, but will hit a lot of people in a crowd:
by NCD on Mon, 10/02/2017 - 4:08pm
USA Today on Ar 15 bump stock modification:
by NCD on Mon, 10/02/2017 - 5:12pm
The deaths just keep mounting.
Now we are at 59.
At four AM the number was at 20.
The injured is now estimated at 527.
At four AM that number was 200plus.
I may write on this subject later.
But already the idiots have come on the air.
Limbaugh actually accuses ISIS for this tragedy.
Yea ISIS.
A man three years younger than me who resided at some 'retirement' community.
A man who was white.
A man who was an accountant.
A man with ten high powered rifles; with explosives in his car.
A man who had a thousand rounds of ammunition in his home.
YEAH. IT WAS ISIS ALRIGHT.
SHIT
by Richard Day on Mon, 10/02/2017 - 7:09pm
Flag flies at half-assed
Just don't kneel.
America will "come tigwther" with "shared values", Trump said.
Well I don't share *your* values, motherfucker - you're an ignorant incompetent pussy-grabbing thieving freak.
I'd ask you to do something, but I know that you can't and you won't - worse than useless, disruptive and simply in the way, a no-good half-human roadblock.
Maybe we'll get a golf trophy for Vegas victims: "warmest condolences, now suck it"
Fuck you and every son-and-daughter-of-a-bitch who voted for you and hasn't apologized yet.
Palmer on gun control
And Dick, I'm waiting for final vedict - something strikes me as off - the guy wasn't a gun nut, not a gun guy at all - where did he get all these weapons, who modified them in a way no amateur could? Was anyone else in that room before police arrived? I know it's unlikely for someone to slip out, but...
by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 10/03/2017 - 2:41am
The way I understand it so far the theory is the gun was likely not modified. There's a simply device that fits on the trigger. It has a crank. You turn the crank and it pulls the trigger faster than you can pull it with your finger. Guns are simple machines especially rifles made for the military. They're designed to be easy to take apart and clean in the field. Everyone in the military has to learn how to take apart, clean, and put together an M-16 in a certain amount of time to get out of BCT. Even a trumpet player in the army band like me has to go through BCT. After that I never touched a gun for the next 4 years I was in the army. Anyone with a moderate amount of mechanical ability could modify most semi-automatics to full automatic. But you can't get the parts to do it.
Anyone can buy as many guns as they want. It just takes money and a clean background check. At gun shows or over the internet you often don't even need a background check. If you're buying 20 rifles in a week it's probably best to buy them at different stores so as not to arouse suspicion. But no one is keeping track of how many guns a person buys.
by ocean-kat on Tue, 10/03/2017 - 8:04am
The NYTimes has a substantially updated and filled out bio piece on Paddock this morning:
Stephen Paddock, Las Vegas Suspect, Was a Gambler Who Drew Little Attention
by artappraiser on Tue, 10/03/2017 - 10:18am
Suggests that the attack had nothing to do with resentment towards country music or its sub-culture:
from New York Times' most recent update.
Also here:
Las Vegas Gunman May Have Targeted Lollapalooza & Life Is Beautiful Festivals
Associated Press, 10/5
by artappraiser on Thu, 10/05/2017 - 6:11pm
Explosives, too:
Las Vegas killer had more explosives, 1,600 rounds of ammo in car
By Holly Yan, Faith Karimi and Darran Simon @ CNN, Updated 6:37 PM ET
by artappraiser on Thu, 10/05/2017 - 9:19pm
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by artappraiser on Thu, 10/05/2017 - 9:20pm