MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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Senior figures in the Turnbull Government have told the ABC they believe the United States is prepared to bomb Iran's nuclear facilities, perhaps as early as next month, and that Australia is poised to help identify possible targets.The ABC has been told Australian defence facilities would likely play a role in identifying targets in Iran, as would British intelligence agencies.
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Mattis denies report US is planning missile strike against Iran (& so does Turnbull)
By Jacqueline Thomsen @ TheHill.com - 07/27/18 03:25 PM EDT
by artappraiser on Sat, 07/28/2018 - 1:32am
So relieved the Australian PM and our DOD Secretary are "confident" Trump bombing Iran isn't "considered right now."
by NCD on Sat, 07/28/2018 - 10:29am
I didn't go looking to disprove it, I was just looking for more info and this is what popped up. In addition to the Straits Times piece with a little more info., which is linked to in The Hill, there's also similar at The Guardian. At first I was intuiting from the Straits Times explanation of Mattis activities: well, sounds like a leak from one of the meetings, where they may have been talking about "what ifs" as per the "Five Eyes" agreement, i.e., what could we do if this happened or that happened now.
But then I saw Turnbull's statement covered that by saying the ABC’s report had not benefited from any “consultation” with his office, nor with the office of the defence minister or the foreign affairs minister.
But yeah, the reality with a crazy Trump is that he could do anything as he doesn't keep up with anything his administration is trying to do. This is actually how the story hit me: any speculation might be true because of that. That this may be why the Pentagon has stopped talking to reporters, because whatever they say could be made out to be a lie the next day by commander in chief.
In general though, I am starting to see a pattern, with like what happened with North Korea and with NATO and with tariffs: he says outrageous shit and causes chaos and then later walks it back in actual policy. IAnd thinking that maybe that's gonna be the modus operandi through November. Because the chaos from the conflicting info. result makes it easier for him to lie to his base about what he did at the same time allowing GOP candidates in swing districts to sell that a moderation thing for the party as a whole. But should he get a GOP rubber stamp in November, watch out, that's when he'd follow through on some of his fantasies instead of just bluffing for chaotic effect.
I just don't see him using the wag the dog thing, I don't know why. Probably because he can't stay on any one thing for long enough except his favorites like tariffs and the wall. Look, North Korea was a monster enemy one day and the next day Kim's one of his best friends, and everything in between. A bombing he might order, but not a full on war. That takes staying power and propaganda that he has no interest in. He didn't stay on the Syria topic for two seconds after that one bombing, never went back to it. He likes an apparent show of strength and then moves on, no attention span and no real ideology. And his fans, they are mostly isolationist, they won't even buy a Reaganite hatred of Russia, certainly not the types to want to spend long term blood and money on the mideast.
by artappraiser on Sat, 07/28/2018 - 12:16pm
Fox snd Friends, as with Trump, probably can't find the Gulf of Hormuz or Iran on a map, if they don't talk it up we'll likely be safe and avoid war.
by NCD on Mon, 07/30/2018 - 9:02pm
I know you're not even joking, NCD, though I've got to admit I still can't totally assimilate the whole Fox & Friends thing as the reality it is: that we have a president that watches and listens to them and Hannity instead of reading his briefing papers!! I read stuff like the below currently @ The Hill and I think of Salvador Dali and truth be told, I also think couldn't it at least be a more serious Fox news show than the two most cheesiest ones? You've actually pegged it exactly here: it's like no serious pro-Israel anti-Iran hawk think tanker would appear on either show and they'd never book them! That would be waaaay too "intellectual elite" for either show. It would just be some real lowlife stupid rally-round-the-flag kinda crap. Our foreign policy is being fed into the president by a few moronic yahoos catering to the same....and all they have to do to get that is play loyal boot lickers to a narcissist. It's almost like a Moliere play:
Trump schedules meetings based on ‘Fox & Friends’ coverage: report
By Avery Anapol - 07/30/18 07:18 AM EDT
by artappraiser on Mon, 07/30/2018 - 10:29pm
Yeah, saw that. We are going to discover what happens to the economy and country when run by a delusional sociopathic azzhole whose curiosity is satisfied by watching 3 obsequious shills on TeeVee, employed by a Goebbels like right wing crackpot billionaire raised by a bigoted country preacher.
by NCD on Mon, 07/30/2018 - 11:10pm
can't resist posting this here
by artappraiser on Tue, 07/31/2018 - 12:25am
and then today I ran across this most excellent point, she could, after all, see Russia from her house:
by artappraiser on Tue, 07/31/2018 - 5:09pm
This "breaking" news starting to sound like, as Basquiat & co. used to put it: SAMO. It's basically kayfabe learned from Trump's wrassling days: make a beast strawman and then be the heeeero who goes and soothes the beast? (Maeillo, if you're reading this, amiright?)
Trump Says Would Meet Iranian Leaders 'Anytime With No Preconditions'
'I believe in meetings. I would meet with Iran if they wanted to meet'
Edit to add: Would not be surprised in the least if the leaker(s) to Australian ABC were pro-Trump sources.
by artappraiser on Mon, 07/30/2018 - 2:55pm
Ah, confirmation bias for hunch of mine! that and two cents will getcha...well something is better than nothing:
by artappraiser on Mon, 07/30/2018 - 6:08pm
And I also wouldn't be surprised to know this is why he judged it the right time to switch to a new Rouhani v. Trump kayfabe narrative, start a totally new match, have the fans fuggeabout the last one:
US intelligence agencies determine that North Korea is constructing new missiles: report
until campaign time when he can brag about solving both, natch.
by artappraiser on Mon, 07/30/2018 - 10:57pm
Now, if he would only agree to meet with Mueller wit no conditions, this whole shit show would be over!
by CVille Dem on Mon, 07/30/2018 - 7:25pm
hah, now here you made me think for a minute::could it really be so?...nope because he can't make it a bullshit "art of the deal" transactional show, there's not even the possibility of a plea bargain with the guy, as there would be with most prosecutors. Which also made me think this is why a special prosecutor is so feared, is just a supposed fact finder, is not playing the adversarial game where one side wins and one side loses. No way to fight it except with agitprop, yelling "witch hunt" and "no collusion" over and over. But to win anything doing that you have to convince a majority (of the populace, or of the House) and he couldn't even do that being elected, ironically with the very same shady ops that are being investigated.
by artappraiser on Mon, 07/30/2018 - 9:38pm