MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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Exit poll suggests Tories neck-and-neck with "coalition of chaos"
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by artappraiser on Thu, 06/08/2017 - 6:03pm
They need an investigation into Russian meddling in the Brexit vote.
by CVille Dem on Thu, 06/08/2017 - 6:52pm
Guardian Live Thread 8m ago 17:55: NEWSPAPER FIRST EDITIONS
Photos of tabloid newspaper front pages follow with these headlines:
by artappraiser on Thu, 06/08/2017 - 6:08pm
Corbyn smacks tabloids. They had their fun - now they're in the shits.
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 06/08/2017 - 6:49pm
3m ago 19:39
by artappraiser on Thu, 06/08/2017 - 7:43pm
good Twitter thread of ongoing analysis of the results, demographics, etc. by Jeremy Cliffe and colleagues:
https://twitter.com/JeremyCliffe
He's Berlin Bureau Chief at The Economist; Author of Britain's Cosmopolitan Future
by artappraiser on Thu, 06/08/2017 - 9:59pm
When told of a hung election, Boris Johnson went all macho. Was only later he figured out it wasn't a good thing. Kinda like the Brexit he asked for but didn't understand.
Mayhem, disMay - how many bad puns can the tabloid create out of this disaster? May-belline, why can't you be true?
So May's going to form a coalition with the worst of Northern Ireland's conservatives (who almost no one from NI likes). Call it "MayDUP" - it's something akin to Southern Republicans allied with Tea Partiers - what could go wrong? UK voters sent a strong to stop the craziness - and they get this instead? still waiting for the Mutiny.
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 06/09/2017 - 12:53am
I'm sure Boris is thrilled. I imagine he is hard at work trying to organize the mutiny to make himself PM.
Can't wait to see him crash tackling Trump on the tarmac
by Obey on Fri, 06/09/2017 - 6:26am
Obama will not be pleased. Even sending Jim The Fixer Messina wasn't enough to sink Corbyn. Sad!
by Obey on Fri, 06/09/2017 - 6:53am
And to put Obama's words in context: Jeremy Corbyn is on course to outperform Labour's vote share in 70, 74, 79, 83, 87, 92, 2001, 2005, 2010, 2015.
Also:
In 2015, Miliband won the youth vote by 15 points. In 2016, Clinton won it by 18 points. Tonight's exit poll: Corbyn won it by 44 points
by Obey on Fri, 06/09/2017 - 7:25am
Corbyn was a bit more energetic the last month than he'd been in a while, but it still looks like May lost the election much more than Corbyn won it (including a stirring of young people pissed that their easy travel & study on the continent was going away). Remember Corbyn wasn't even going to show up at the debate since May wouldn't be there, then changed his mind. The 1 good thing about him being so wishy-washy at this point was that he didn't scare away the pro-Brexiters the way the LibDems (& SND) did.
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 06/09/2017 - 9:11am
I like this on the energy topic:
and this on pissed-off young people, that the pissed off was partly a "double dare ya" thing:
Both are retweets from "mutable joe", I look at his feed from time to time because I love his sense of humor:
https://twitter.com/mutablejoe
by artappraiser on Fri, 06/09/2017 - 10:04am
This is amazing. The constituency where I used to live - North East Fife, the SNP won by two votes. I always think about that voting paradox - no election is ever won by one vote, etc. But this one got close.
In my time it was so solidly sedate middle class Lib Dem, but it's funny to see them turn away from the Lib Dems to the SNP and not to Labour. It isn't the nationalism that attracts them, it must just be the personality of the politicians. If Labour had a leader like Sturgeon, they would have destroyed the Tories in this election. Not that I'm going to start complaining about nice old Corbyn. Good job by a grumpy old leftist. I wonder how you psychologically adapt to a political rock star, with all the adulation attention criticism and pressure, after trying to convince yourself for 50 years that your ideas - despite all appearances - are really what the people want. Just him not having a meltdown qualifies as success to me.
by Obey on Fri, 06/09/2017 - 10:23am
What fun, I just love it when electorates act unpredictably, don't know why, must have to do with liking contrrarian opposition to "conventional wisdom.". I see from your first link that the BBC is trolling to cause trouble in in North East Fife:
When in the end, if they would find 20 votes this way or that way, it doesn't really distract from the main message of the vote. That's where the horse race thing is detrimental. Yeah sure, it matters to the candidate himself or herself, but the point is the message any eventual winner of a close race should take away: you didn't really get strong approval, don't assume the people are with your program!
by artappraiser on Fri, 06/09/2017 - 11:00am
I have read this guy's writings about things I thought I knew enough to have an opinion and he seems to mke good sense. This is how he thinks Corbyn did so well and he goes on to relate it to our election.
by A Guy Called LULU on Fri, 06/09/2017 - 10:19am
Aaaand ... we finally get that radicalization of youth media freakout we were waiting for.
I love how he worries about how 27% of french millenials could vote for Melenchon but doesn't give a flying duck that 35% voted for fascist Le Pen.
That pretty much sums up centrist attitudes - the real threat is the resurgent left. The fascists are are barely worth a shrug. I can't believe US Democratic operatives are working for the hard hard right UKIP-augmented Tories, Obama actively sabotaging Labour, and Blairites allied with them against Corbyn, whose manifesto is pretty mild stuff. It's a bit harsh to call May fascist, but she is clearly fascist adjacent, all to happy to look for an excuse to throw out human rights laws. And yet the establishment across the board support her against a man who wants a bunch of policies that used to be soft-Tory positions in the nineties.
I think we're starting to see a Labour-like split in the US Democratic party in some places. California looks a test-case to see if the split hardens between the Dem big-donor establishment and the grassroots.
by Obey on Fri, 06/09/2017 - 12:37pm
What makes you think California is a test case of the split between big-donor establishment and the grassroots? Brown took in millions.
by ocean-kat on Fri, 06/09/2017 - 3:12pm
I don't understand your point. It would be great if you could clarify.
i was thinking of things like the Ellis Bauman fight, and Feinstein fighting single-payer for instance. Still unresolved, whereas Ellison and the Berniacs laid down arms in the fight over the DNC.
by Obey on Fri, 06/09/2017 - 3:41pm
Of course in a state overwhelmingly controlled by democrats the republican argument is missing and the debate is between the democratic centrists and the democratic left. I just don't see how it's a split between big-donor establishment and the grassroots. The grassroots and the left support Brown who gets millions from the big donor establishment.
by ocean-kat on Fri, 06/09/2017 - 3:51pm
It's a fight surrounding corporate funding. I didn't mean "establishment" as an insult. It's a split similar both institutionally and philosophically to the divide in UK's labour. I don't really feel like arguing about terminology.
by Obey on Fri, 06/09/2017 - 4:03pm
How is California a split between corporate funding and the grassroots? Again as far as I can see Brown has the support of the grassroots and the left and he's taken millions in corporate funding. I posted a few excerpts from an article of the 100k plus checks he's gotten. Or are you claiming that Brown represents the big donor establishment and the grassroots and the left are fighting him?
by ocean-kat on Fri, 06/09/2017 - 4:16pm
It's not about Brown. It's the fight between Ellis and Bauman for the chair. And it's a fight centered around corporate funding.
by Obey on Fri, 06/09/2017 - 4:30pm
Re: I love how he worries about how 27% of french millenials could vote for Melenchon but doesn't give a flying duck that 35% voted for fascist Le Pen.
Precisely, Obey! I think the more accurate overall generalization should be: radical for the sake of being radical,as in, what the heck, we'll try anything different if it comes in a charismatic package. Just to shake things up. Who is charismatic? Depends on their curation of life narrative at the time; though any kind of firm ideology doesn't ever fit. Also buffet cafeteria voting: sometimes you pick a single entree and the classic sides that go with it, other times you might want to more tapas style, and cause a coalition government.
The key would be if many in the youth vote have become loyal excited party members. Not if they are fans of one guy. If there are suddenly many loud and proud loyal Labourites or Tories in the Brit milllenial population,. willing to roll up their sleeves and participate, then I might buy what he's saying.
They didn't like Obama because they were trying the measured centrist thing on for size, no it was that his persona would supposedly make for an awesome change. I think the original non-partisan meme was also a big draw. By his second term, he was only still cool to the little kids and the boomers?
That tweet I posted is not really a joke at all, party with the candidate with the best personality wins, not the least of which because: they bring out the vote.
by artappraiser on Fri, 06/09/2017 - 4:04pm
Somebody saw profit in making these Corbyn leggings, need I say more?
Illustration for NYTimes.com op-ed How Jeremy Corbyn Proved the Haters Wrong
By RACHEL SHABI, JUNE 9, 2017
by artappraiser on Fri, 06/09/2017 - 4:57pm
the op-ed has great content on point, too, my underlining:
Kinda sounds like Obamamania allover again. Temporary cults are going to be in our future.
I am reminded of a story I just recently read about a bloke who signed up with ISIS for the excitement, but didn't like things too much seeing it for real, wanted daddy and mommy to help get him outta there...he hadn't really checked it out too thoroughly, just wanted to be in on the hottest thing around.
by artappraiser on Fri, 06/09/2017 - 5:05pm
Good for Corby. But to avoid extrapolating beyond the range of the data , his encouraging campaign -brilliantly mobilizing the under- 20 year olds (good)- only got Labour back to a % of Blair´s¨cool Britainia vote.
We´ve learned that the young will vote, And re-learned that´s not enough.
by Flavius on Fri, 06/09/2017 - 10:37pm
The Guardian explains what we should learn from Corby, who lost the election much worse than Hillary. So it must be "move to England" where they have a more power sharing parliamentary system. Meanwhile would have been better if youth had voted more last June, though before Brexit's done, there'll be another nearly 2 years of pissed off youth getting the vote and old guard dying off. May's days seem numbered, however she fiddles with North Ireland conservatives, plus holding London hostage to Belfast's worst hardly looks forward-thinking or better than being "hostage" to progressive Brussels.
by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 06/10/2017 - 2:11am
Next election has to happen by may 2022. Why are you talking about a two year horizon? Another EU referendum?
Anyone feel like placing bets on how long May lasts? I'm sure Boris is feeling quite backstabby these days. But then again, if you're ambitious, better to have her take the fall for what will be catastrophic Brexit negotiations, and then fly in as a hero fixer.
By the by, in five years time, it won't be Corbyn any more. It will be Khan, Abbott or Umunna, I'm guessing. All much more talented campaigners than Corbyn, and arguably better people-managers too. Future is looking bright.
by Obey on Sat, 06/10/2017 - 3:53am
Yes, I only care about reversing Brexit at this point. I guess a softer cuddlier Brexit is an improvement on cold hard Brexit, but I'm not really interested. This election was only 1 step towards *my* interests, just like Macron's win over Le Pen fuels *my* interests. So May triggered Article 50 on March 29, and by March 28, 2019 it needs to be revoked. As seems quite legal and possible.
(The Business Insider link references a 2nd Scottish Independence Referendum, and I'd say with SNP's loss that that's completely dead - but that will also strengthen the case *against* Brexit. As long as SNP was still threatening Scotland leaving the UK, the rest of the UK could ignore them as traitors and whingers. But now that they're firmly part of the team again, their opinion - quite anti-Brexit - matters. Additionally, the alliance with DUP Northern Ireland is a major coup for open borders, again anti-Brexit spirit.)
The chances May's coalition can hold together until March 2019, and that May herself isn't deposed? Not the best, I'm happy to say.
PS - "my interests" isn't just a selfish Peracles viewpoint - it's my thoughts on being a European, on the EU as being perhaps the most progressive large-scale experiment ever in mankind, that solving many of the pressing problems of the foreseeable future require inter-government/inter-people cooperation and not a return to purely national self-interest and power politics oblivious to practical outcomes, and of course a counterpoint to the sewer that the US has voted into power. I don't want that "special relationship" hanging like an anchor weight around our necks - I want it to be dragging the US (or the eternally unrepentant reptards) screaming into the progressive future.
PPS - I'm also quite tired of the slander against Brussels. I see the results of EU efforts every day, and mostly they're a very progressive antidote to the local knuckle-dragging Neanderthal populism or just the ugly misogynist/racist/corruption-strewn backwards tendencies of much of the population. Much of our progress comes *in spite of* our worst tendencies.
As an example, 18% of all deaths come from smoking, versus what, 4% or so from driving? But look at all the precautions against dangerous driving & ill-equipped vehicles, and the few against smoking - and smoking remains as popular as ever, with access/new recruiting for minors to smoke still high. But a few weeks ago a major new law against smoking took effect in most public places - probably against the overall will of the people, but hey, all those famous European Wars probably all had very popular support, stirring pride and confidence in the Playing Fields of Eaton and such, and here we are, only 1 very contained European war in over 70 years. Bitch about Brussels all we like, it's doing us a world of good.
by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 06/10/2017 - 4:32am
The EU will be stronger without the UK, and will be able to move forward on great integration. The UK's involvement and investment in Europe was mainly to sabotage efforts at stronger institutions and better collaboration. I wish they could be a constructive member, and a willing partner, but that isn't something they have ever had any inclination towards, nor is it something a quick referendum do-over can fix.
I say that although it makes me really sad to see the UK out. It has been my second home for the past twenty years, and it suddenly feels like a very foreign land on so many levels. It really needs to figure out its own way, but these bandaid solutions, where we just try to cover up tectonic shifts in national psychology and move on regardless, they won't work.
by Obey on Sat, 06/10/2017 - 5:22am
Just out of interest, what would be the lessons you would consider useful for the US if Corbyn had gotten 2227 more votes and become Prime Minister?
by Obey on Sat, 06/10/2017 - 6:00am
That real life doesn't always give us Braveheart or Teddy Roosevelt charging up the hill, that sometimes we have to get inspired by the more normal leader with the most level head and grip on reality without any excessive promises of wonderful tomorrows. Corbyn wins by not being insane or excessively vain.
Next time you need a leader to move you and entertain you, check out one of those wonderful documentaries or full-feature films on Netflix. Once you've got your adrenalin fix out of the way, then have a look at what the candidates say and do, and figure out which have a chance in hell of bringing something good along the way.
From my eyes, Corbyn lost to the Braveheart crowd last June, and after the reality of Brexit and watching its faux William Wallace promises torn apart by horses afterwards, the acceptance of the non-dogmatic, not overly charismatic, sometimes lethargic Corbyn was greatly preferred to the buffoon Boris Johnson or that scheming weasel Nigel Farage or the posing pseudo-majestic Theresa May.
by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 06/10/2017 - 6:22am
Something tells me his lack of charisma was his superpower here. Like with Hollande, whose whole pitch was "hey, how about a boring president for once?". Even his love affairs were eye-rollingly tedious.
by Obey on Sat, 06/10/2017 - 7:39am
The Book of Jeremy Corbyn
By Anthony Lane @ NewYorker.com, June 9
And they hearkened unto the word of Jeremy, and believed. For they said unto themselves, Lo, he bringeth unto us the desire of our hearts.
Mostly for fun, but also some thought-provokers related to discussions on this thread.
by artappraiser on Mon, 06/12/2017 - 4:51pm
The UK police community trolling May
Snark has become respectable public relations lingo for official organs of important state institutions. Weird world.
by Obey on Sat, 06/10/2017 - 3:57am
Not quite "official", considering its .co.uk address - "Official Twitter Account For The UK's Largest Network of Policing Forums. " - yeah, like I have the official drone logistics Twitter account for the pizza industry. It's 1 guy with 1 opinion, even though he may have some real insight into the pulse of the Policing business overall.
by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 06/10/2017 - 4:50am
So YOU are the eminence grise behind Big Pizza!! Explains everything.
by Obey on Sat, 06/10/2017 - 5:10am
Yep, our flavor analytics show easy on the sauce and more tangy toppings for an urban chic, more demanding clientele. And careful with those drone langings - decapitation takes the fun out of home delivery.
by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 06/10/2017 - 6:25am
A parallel with WWC voters in the US, from Jonathan Freedland:
UKIP voters, a good chunk of them, were leftwing protest voters. Do with that info what you will.
by Obey on Sat, 06/10/2017 - 5:43am
On Corbyn and the vindication of authenticity.
by Obey on Sat, 06/10/2017 - 5:53am