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    What is a "BOT?"

    By CVille Dem on Tue, 03/08/2016 - 1:33pm |

    Having just recently been called a "Hilbot," and feeling insulted by that, I thought I would ask for feedback about what the definition really is.  I was formerly called an "Obama-bot," and didn't like that either.  I associate the name with uninformed and thoughtless loyalty to a particular candidate, along with a rigidity that precludes any objectivity.

    I did try the internet, but bots are just fly larvae, so not helpful.

     

    I now feel that a short-hand definition is simply this:  

    A person who will not vote for the winner of their party's Primary unless it is the person they support.

     

    Any ideas?  Input?  But most of all, I would really like to make a case for not calling one another names, and furthermore I declare here and now that I will vote for the nominee of the Democratic Party.

    Comments

    A Bot is someone who robotically votes for a candidate and reflexively approves of everything they say and do, an enabler Cf. Stepford Wives as  bot-ish behavior.

    But youre not a bot, youre a tron, like living inthe Hilltron hotel. Hope that makes you feel better.


    by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 03/08/2016 - 1:57pm

    Thanks PP. I was  "over it" by the time I wrote this but thought it was a decent topic. I'm not sure I'm a "tron" though. Maybe a Hilless because I like to stay in a Holiday Inn Express and then pretend to be a brain surgeon. Hey, it worked for Carson!


    by CVille Dem on Tue, 03/08/2016 - 2:16pm

    Ed:How brainy was it? Guffaw guffaw. Thought he was Karnak the Magnificent - stayed in HInn Express cause in a hurry to find wife #8.


    by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 03/08/2016 - 2:42pm

    As I recall, O-bot emerged as the retort of choice back in 2008 because Obama supporters had taken to calling Obama's lefty critics "Firebaggers," which is really a terrible insult because it links the insulted to firedoglake, a perfectly fine website but one that most people, even on the internet left, don't even know about and so it just caused a bunch of confusion.

    This cycle I see both Hillbots and Bernbots wherever I look.

    Whatever.

    Beats being a Trumpkin.


    by Michael Maiello on Tue, 03/08/2016 - 2:48pm

    Holy anachronism, Batman! "Firebagger" can't possibly date from 2008, since it presumably derives from Teabagger, circa 2010. And indeed it does not.

    Moreover, the lefties of FDL didn't start kicking Obama until after he became president and started bailing out banks and not-closing Guantanamo, yet I found a reference to "Obama-bot" as early as March, 2008.

    If not lefties, then who? Given the chronology, it's much more likely that Hillary or Edwards supporters coined "Obama-bot" and its "O-bot" derivation during the primary campaign of 2008.

    But how did they come up with it? As it turns out, "Hillbot" actually dates back to 2007. Ergo, we can infer that Obama-bot is actually an inversion of Hillbot.

    As an idiotic man once said, "THIS IS EXCELLENT NEWS...FOR HILLARY!!!!!!!!!"


    by Michael Wolraich on Tue, 03/08/2016 - 3:38pm

    I

        Really

                      Miss

                                  IDIOTIC!


    by CVille Dem on Tue, 03/08/2016 - 4:17pm

    Yeah, I got the date wrong.  It was 2010/11.

    If you look it up on Urban Dictionary you'll see me and Overreach This! were fighting for top definition.  Seems I lost.


    by Michael Maiello on Tue, 03/08/2016 - 7:03pm

    Well, I love IDIOTIC

     

    And I also love OverReach This!

     

     

    so sue me!


    by CVille Dem on Tue, 03/08/2016 - 7:56pm

    Whatever happened to Genghis?


    by Michael Maiello on Tue, 03/08/2016 - 8:40pm

    His shirt collar multiple color flashing got voted down.  

     

    FYI, I voted for the colorful collars.  Are you saying that he was secretly IDIOTIC?  

     

    I was hoping that IDIOTIC was his/her own self...but then Genghis always was too.  

     

    This 

     

     

          Is.    

    ​                        Excellent 

     

                                                  News

     

                                                                   For

     

                                                                               Peaky Blinders! 


    by CVille Dem on Tue, 03/08/2016 - 9:20pm

    Sorry, the colorful collar reference is just for us old folks.

     


    by CVille Dem on Tue, 03/08/2016 - 9:21pm

    The hillarybots have taken over Dagblog. Genghis was an Obamabot and the first to be purged. I can tell you this now because it's too late to stop it, We've been planning this with Hillary for eight years now. You've been told for years how devious Hillary is, how she holds a grudge, how she always gets revenge. Well it's true.  Hillary's takedown of PUMA was a ruse, She loved them but knew it wasn't time. The SoS thing? Just a pretense. Her support of Obama and promise to continue Obama's goals. Just to win the election and then all bets are off. All Obamabots will be purged. We know who you are and we didn't forget.

    Ramona is the head Hillarybot here at dag. She gets instructions directly from Hillary herself and relays them to PP, me, and others here. Sure there will be some changes around here but it will be better.  Hillary has promised us some of her Goldman Sacs money to fix the site. No more double posts, no more lost comments. We plan to continue promoting Unreasonable Men at the top of the page and Wolraich will still get the big royalty checks. It just won't be "by" him anymore.


    by ocean-kat on Wed, 03/09/2016 - 4:21pm

    All your bots r belong 2 us. You been p4wn3d. I gets me Wallstreet moneys in bitcoin - you ken too, asks me how. Soon, a's return to pirate speak, aaargghh ye maties 


    by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 03/09/2016 - 12:56am

    Ahoy, y' scurvy lot o'swabs.  Sharpen yer cutlasses and tie up yer balls, we're goin' to work!


    by jollyroger on Wed, 03/09/2016 - 2:15am

    I plan to take things a step further and to become a Goldman Sachsbot.  We will do God's work here.


    by Michael Maiello on Wed, 03/09/2016 - 7:40am

    Next thing we know, you'll be letting sectsbots vote.


    by Oxy Mora on Wed, 03/09/2016 - 9:08am

    Botulism and botox. Botom feeders. Bot'led water. Our future is at stake.


    by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 03/09/2016 - 9:21am

    Bots up, Doc?


    by Oxy Mora on Wed, 03/09/2016 - 12:18pm

    So we beat on, Bots against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past.


    by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 03/09/2016 - 12:42pm

    Scott, they told me you were dead!


    by jollyroger on Wed, 03/09/2016 - 12:53pm

    Confusing me with Joyce, always in search of some wake or other. Eternally gloomy tunes. And toomuch Latin. Sheesh.


    by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 03/09/2016 - 1:32pm

    You think you're so smart, ocean-kat, but you're even dumber than the rest of 'em. Genghis was a double-agent, duh! Josh Marshall paid him to pied-piper away all the Obama-rats.

    [Maniacal laughter]

    [More maniacal laughter]

    [Still laughing, more maniacally than ever]

    [Pausing to catch a breath]

    [Renewed aniacal laughter]

    [Coughing fit]

    [Hairball]


    by Michael Wolraich on Wed, 03/09/2016 - 11:20am

    No, Josh pulled out the guaranteed one-way-ticket-to-Palookaville on his many fans - he started charging. That you found the rats scurrying around and led them off the pier is only adding insult to injury. Fortunately we have short attention spans.


    by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 03/09/2016 - 11:47am

    Wait, you're not paying to be at Dag?  Michael, you told me I wasn't the only one paying!


    by Michael Maiello on Wed, 03/09/2016 - 1:00pm

    Thats Dagblog Premium. I dont get half the perqs that you do. Like, uh well, this that and the other. And your name up in lights!!!


    by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 03/09/2016 - 1:28pm

    Michael, you're a member of Dag Prime. It's a very select group of very privileged people.

    Also, I'm now running a one-time promotion for Dag University. For a mere $499 per week, you can learn the secrets of blogging pioneered by Genghis, the most successful, multihued blogger in the world.


    by Michael Wolraich on Wed, 03/09/2016 - 1:36pm

    I think I heard that "distinguishing characteristics" line before. May work with young interns, not with us grumpy old grousers. I'll hold out for the fish, especially if wrapped in a recent newspaper. For that, $4.99's a pittance.


    by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 03/09/2016 - 1:43pm

    I'm in!  Just as soon as I finish my Dag Steak.


    by Michael Maiello on Wed, 03/09/2016 - 4:09pm

    OMG, OMG what am I going to do I was an OBot and now I am a HillBot... what am I going to do??? Will I be half-purged? Does  PP Get to make the decision about my OBot half?  If so am I screwed half the time? I don't know... Someone tell me quick.. but only half of me will listen.


    by tmccarthy0 on Wed, 03/09/2016 - 1:46pm

    Hillary knows this. She put your name on her list back in 07 when she read your first post on TPM. It was moved from the purge list a couple of months ago. She's watching you. She knows if you're sleeping. She knows if you're awake. She has her lists, she's checking them twice. If your full confession of the crimes you committed in 08 supporting "The Usurper" is sufficiently contrite and you sign the Hillary Loyalty Oath you'll be permitted to stay. If not a few years in a re-education camp will "teach" you the error of your ways.


    by ocean-kat on Wed, 03/09/2016 - 2:13pm

    LOL.. I'd better dress well then, if I am being watched... only pantsuits from now on.

    I'll sign that oath immediately if chocolate is somehow involved in this. 


    by tmccarthy0 on Wed, 03/09/2016 - 2:19pm

    I'm an equal opportunity Botswain - can make it easy to serve 2 masters or even more. Though rather than a pants suit, suggest a more inviting botice, ripped preferably. We're competing against Huffpost, you know, where they have Kim K's bottocks in full rear flagrante. Drives the replicants completely botty. Amirite?


    by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 03/09/2016 - 2:50pm

    Ha. It's this type of equivocating and sexism that is gonna cause you to lose to me when it comes to being named the author of Unreasonable Men. Hillary still hasn't made her choice you know but I'm sure in the end at the top of the page it will be

    Unreasonable Men

    by Ocean-Kat

    The publicity I'll get from that endorsement will make my next book Reasonable Women a best seller. Main point will be that men are too emotional to be president.

     


    by ocean-kat on Wed, 03/09/2016 - 3:00pm

    Obviously know nothing about human curiosity and intrigue. Name it "Beotches Behaving Badly" and theyll be standing in line around the corner f the next block to buy it. "Reasonble Women"? May as well hook them up to a valium drip, theyll be out like a light.

    Look at these blogs. I spent about 45 minutes crafting a post that fits from top to bottom, change the title 4 times, including finding choral music that fits the Bosch mood. 243 reads, probably 15 my own while editing. JR puts out 8 pithy lines of insults and then quotes Simon & fucking Garfunkel, so help me God, and is up over 1000 reads.


    by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 03/09/2016 - 3:38pm

    People watch Jr for the same reason they watch Trump. Both spout off the first thought that percolates up from their subconscious. The Id is never politically correct in fact it's usually decidedly un-PC. It reads like a twitter feed. Neither have ever had a thought that wouldn't fit in under 140 characters. And twitter is very popular. (shrug)

    edit to add: Recently I've seen a lot of people commenting on the number of views a blog gets. Not really sure why some find that important as I never even noticed that data was there until people started commenting on it and I still don't look at it.


    by ocean-kat on Wed, 03/09/2016 - 4:47pm

    If you spend an hour writing something you might like it read and commented on. However there are comments and then there are comments. So, first is some notices, second people debate intelligently and build on it. The # of reads is a poor indicator of #2, but does signal activity around it, good or bad.


    by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 03/10/2016 - 12:05am

    An hour?  An HOUR??  A whole fuckin' HOUR???

     

    Maaan, you need a hobby. ( no offense)

     

    Why do you think they call it " ephemera "?


    by jollyroger on Thu, 03/10/2016 - 12:11am

    This *is* a hobby, JR - it's a place I write about real shit, use words and puns and ideas and larger vocabulary, that doesn't just disappear inside a box under my desk. Not quite a savant in Paris or eye looking over East Egg or celebrated columnist on the innertubez and morning talk shows, but 1 step past the dreaded onanism. Pathetic yes, but not *totally* pathetic.

    And probably a respite for being an expat. I'm an alien, I'm a legal alien...


    by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 03/10/2016 - 12:25am

    Albeit I have previously brought doc c to disabling paroxysms of laughter on my last occasion of invoking the bard, I will risk referencing his rejoinder: " Brevity, etc."


    by jollyroger on Wed, 03/09/2016 - 4:31pm

    Yes!  Call your book "Reasonable Women"! 

    But if you don't get it right  we'll rip your guts out.


    by Ramona on Thu, 03/10/2016 - 5:30pm

    I'm kind of old now though, so I'm pretty sure ripped clothing would just make me look like some homeless old woman in need of a hairbrush... and you'll be wondering where I left my shopping cart. blush


    by tmccarthy0 on Wed, 03/09/2016 - 4:19pm

    ripped and *tan* - you got a tan, dontcha?


    by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 03/10/2016 - 12:49am

    Don't let Tmac fool ya'

     

    The clothes may be ripped, but she is both tanned and shredded.


    by jollyroger on Thu, 03/10/2016 - 1:01am

    I don't think natives of the PNW are ever accused of having a tan.. unless we get the Trump, but then we look exceedingly orange. It's ugly.


    by tmccarthy0 on Thu, 03/10/2016 - 12:02pm

    A Trumpkin? But I thought you were anglin' to be the Filly from Manily - bet them travel shots were doctored, never left the Sound.


    by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 03/10/2016 - 12:12pm

    Yes but even though I was raised in the PI, I've lived in Seattle longer..and everyone becomes quite pasty here. In fact when I moved here I didn't even realize how white I was until the tan came off.


    by tmccarthy0 on Thu, 03/10/2016 - 4:40pm

    If it was all at once, must have hurt... poor Snow White.


    by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 03/10/2016 - 5:38pm

    Year of the Bag Lady


    by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 03/10/2016 - 3:38am

    The 'bot' suffix says more about those who is use it than those to whom it is directed.

    It says I don't care about you or anything you say. 

    It says history, facts and reality back me up.

    The particular ideology I am currently obsessed with says bad stuff is due to people not blessed with my insight and intelligence.  Call them 'bots'.


    by NCD on Tue, 03/08/2016 - 3:32pm

    I agree that yours is really a more precise definition, but in the end game it really says:

    If my person doesn't get to be the nominee it is because of stupid people like you, so I will never vote for any candidate but mine.  If we get another Scalia, Thomas, and Alito from the next administration, it is everyone else's fault for not doing what I said to do.  


    by CVille Dem on Tue, 03/08/2016 - 4:16pm

    Lot's of clever stuff and no personal abuse.Great.

    I'll contribute by not attempting to contribute and just lowering the average..

    Oh yeah, and  obviously, like C'Ville , I'll vote with pleasure for Bernie, Hillary, Jolly Roger or whoever's our candidate. And hope that  he ,she or it lies as  repeatedly and effectively during the campaign as is necessary to get elected.. 

    Behavior I'll  resume  deploring  on November 9th.

    Unless there's a recount.


    by Flavius on Wed, 03/09/2016 - 8:14am

    I'm angling for Sec. Of Transportation

    by jollyroger on Wed, 03/09/2016 - 1:46pm

    Yeah I am a dembot but not paid for.

    hahahahahah


    by Richard Day on Wed, 03/09/2016 - 10:09pm

    DDay, you really deserve the last word on this,mso please come back and say it again!  

     

    DEMBOT!  That is what web lol need to be!


    by CVille Dem on Thu, 03/10/2016 - 9:33pm