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    Newt to 'Really Poor Children': Buy Your Own Damn Ice Cream

     

    Newt Gingrich is obsessed with the plight of poor kids these days. He's been all over the place talking about them, and I have to confess, the jollier he gets about his remedies for their plight, the more nervous I become.  It's an odd turn of events and one rife with suspicion.  It's Newt we're talking about.  Newt, who eats mean for breakfast and swallows the seeds.

    Newt, who put a contract out on an entire nation, namely ours, and is still fretting over the insistent existence of a labor movement that was scheduled to die circa Reagan.  (He's got another, bigger contract ready to roll on Day One.  Fair warning.)

    Newt, who sings "Only I can make this world seem right. Only I can make the darkness brightOnly I and I alone can thrill me like I do and fill my heart with love for only me."

    And encores with the stirring, "For what is a man, what has he got?  If not himself, then he has naught. To say the things he truly feels and not the words of one who kneels.  The record shows I took the blows and did it my way!"

    That Newt.

    (Let the record show Newt has so far ignored the first lines of the above tune.  The part where it says, "And now the end is near and so I face the final curtain...".  Yesterday, in fact, Newt told ABC's Jake Tapper he WILL BE THE NOMINEE.  I guess that means all debates are off now?) 

     

    Ordinarily I wouldn't care about Newt's $60,000 per speech blabbings about stupid child labor laws and how really poor kids from really shiftless families will resort to stealing unless he steps in and puts them to work, but after some lengthy and intense investigation, I find I have barely an ounce of faith in this current century's sanity.  That dimpled nasty man could very well be running things come January, 2013.
     

     
     There are some who defend him by reminding us that there's nothing wrong with kids doing a little work. The kids feel good about themselves and the upside is that, as Newt says, they can buy their own ice cream someday.  Nice, really, that.  In a sane world we might actually picture our sweet darlings helping out and getting paid a tiny reward, leaving everybody happy, happy, happy.

    But that's not what Newt means and that's not how he put it.  This is how he put it:
     

    “Start with the following two facts. Really poor children in really poor neighborhoods have no habits of working and have nobody around them who works, so they literally have no habit of showing up on Monday. They have no habit of staying all day. They have no habit of ‘I do this and you give me cash’ unless it’s illegal.

    I come around to this question. You have a very poor neighborhood. You have kids who are required under law to go to school. They have no money. They have no habit of work. What if you paid them part-time in the afternoon to sit at the clerical office and greet people when they come in? What if you paid them to work as the assistant librarian?  What if they became assistant janitors and their job was to mop the floor and clean the bathroom?”

    That's not helpful, that's hateful.  And full of hidden meaning.  What does it mean when Newt says, "You have kids who are required under law to go to school"?  Will there be an addendum to Newt's 2ist Century Contract on America abolishing school attendance for "really poor kids" so they'll have more time to do all that rewarding work?

    When the kids take over as assistant clerks and assistant librarians and assistant janitors, what does that do to the work hours of the real clerks, librarians and janitors?  I'm reading between the lines and seeing part time jobs with no bennies for everyone as part of Newt's grand plan.  He's Newt, after all, clearly not Mr. Empathy.  If you've followed Newt at all you know how strongly opposed he is to equality of the masses -- the kind of thing any signs of empathetic weakness might very well lead to.

    Lots of kids work after school and weekends now, even amongst the "really poor".  It's what kids do when they get old enough.  They baby-sit, they do paper routes, they cut lawns, they wash cars, they run errands.  What they don't do any longer is work in sweatshops under conditions that could maim or kill or rot the spirit.
     

    From Utata Tribal Photography:  Lewis Hines, photographer, 1906  "Hines kept detailed notes on the children he photographed, including comments they made as he interviewed them. The twelve year old boy in the [above] photograph was unable to read or write. He'd been employed by a textile mill in Columbia, South Carolina for four years, since the age of eight. He told Hines, 'Yes, I want to learn, but can't when I work all the time'."

     

    Any student of history will tell you the reason we aren't allowed to work kids like that any more is because the laboring masses organized and put a stop to the exploitation of children by the privileged few.  Newt the Historian seems to have forgotten that.
     


    But on to other things Newt, because, again, there's a mighty strangeness afoot:  The Great One told Sean Hannity over at Fox, apropos of nothing, that, "I helped lead the effort to defeat communism in the Congress.”

    And, okay, I have to ask:  How many communists were there in congress?  Were they as hard on us as the teabaggers in congress today?  Can you give us a few tips on how to get rid of subversives?

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    Hard to believe he's a historian. He should know the deprivation of the working child years. Heck, forget history, it's still current events in much of the world.


    I think he's just pandering to the sizeable part of the GOP voting base with the "kids need work ethic" stuff, to see if he can, at this opportune moment, snatch the prize from Mitt. (Polls say whatever he's saying is working.  And remember, the success of the Contract with America ploy was a shock to nearly everyone, even those that voted that way. Being outrageous has served Newt rather well in the past.)

    As Charlie Cook said in his Nov. 21 column,

    ....Two-thirds of today’s Republican Party is really, really, really, really conservative, not so much the party of Presidents Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, George H.W. Bush or for that matter, even Reagan or George W. Bush (not much talk of ‘compassionate conservatism’ from the current field). The remaining third would be happy with former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney or former Utah Gov. John Huntsman or, for that matter, former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels, or Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour. But the party’s center of gravity is firmly on the right.

    One by one, the “real” conservative champions have disappointed the base, so its allegiance has shifted from one brief hope to another. As the right realizes that someone of its ideological ilk won’t be the 2012 Republican nominee, conservatives will advance through Elizabeth Kubler-Ross’s five stages of grief, starting with denial before moving on to anger, bargaining, depression, and finally acceptance.

    The reward for enduring the excruciating process will be the emergence of a nominee who is more electable than any of the right’s first choices. The victor won’t scratch their ideological itch but will have a better than even-money chance of winning a general election. In the end, that will suffice. The one thing that unifies conservatives is the desire to prevent President Obama’s reelection.

    The $64,000 question is whether or not Romney will win the nomination quickly and cleanly. ....

    Work ethic is a really big meme with a lot of conservatives of many types. Newt is figuring he can prove the Charlie Cook types wrong, that he can be the one who does what Charlie describes, and not Mitt. That's why he's doing the conservative red meat stuff now. And if he wins, later, he figures he can play Mitt as well as Mitt, i.e., "I meant kids should be taught, like in Leave-it-to-Beaver days, to earn money with chores and doing things like mowing neighbor's lawns, shoveling snow,delivering newspapers or helping an adult with the adult's job for a tip before and after school. I don't think that sort of flip-flop would upset many independents that much.


    P.S. I wonder if you've picked the best title to make your "scrooge" point, Ramona.

    I mostly had to buy my own ice cream as a kid, with my allowance or later, babysitting money. Even though our Dad made sure we had pretty nice visits from Santa every year and other people thought us spoiled, eating meat every night.

    Actually now that I think on it, and to be honest, I suspect it wasn't served regularly to many kids in "Leave It To Beaver" days because freezers weren't big enough to have it in the house.  Probably many parents would have it for the kids if they had bigger freezers, but they sure as hell weren't going to buy it for them from the overpriced ice cream truck, that was for you the kid to learn how you could waste your allowance money on instant gratification. Nowadays, it's basically a diet staple.  smiley


    Funny that you should mention "Scrooge".  I started this out with the Scrooge theme and somehow came across a great piece in The Nation by John Nichols called -- damn! --

    The Gingrich of Politics Past Mounts a Modern Scrooge-Marley Campaign

    I went with the ice cream title because in one of his speeches he actually did talk about how those 'really poor children' could work for pay and be able to buy their own ice cream cones.  It seemed like another example of normalizing and sweetening his notion of putting only poor kids to work with the added benefit of taking jobs away from working class adults.  He's tricky that way.  Maybe even brilliant at it.


    His name has always led me more towards a Dr. Seuss character than a Charles Dickens one.


    Newt is shrewd that way and always has been.  He can make what sounds like a perfectly reasonable argument for gutting anything that smacks of real assistance to the hurting throngs.  That way he appeases both sides.  The true Right Wingers are able to read between the lines and understand what he really means, and the rest will see him as this nice man who is simply making the case for the American way.

    I am terrified that Newt might win.  No hyperbole there.  I'm terrified.


    Ramona,

    He's now saying exactly what I predicted he would on the matter, but sooner than I thought. (Speaking of being scared, that's kinda weirding me out cheeky):

    From When Gingrich’s Big Thoughts Backfire by Trip Gabriel, New York Times, Dec. 5/6, 2011:

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    Now something similar is occurring over Mr. Gingrich’s children-as-janitors idea. With less than a month before the first votes are cast in Iowa, he seems to recognize that he is in danger from the reaction to his proposal, which he first offered two weeks ago at Harvard in response to a student’s question.

    Criticism has been blistering, with some pointing to research showing that the more high school students work, the poorer their grades. 

    At the news conference in New York on Monday, Mr. Gingrich introduced the topic before taking questions. He explained that he was thinking of children in housing projects who had few working adults as role models. He hoped to introduce them to the habit of earning a paycheck in exchange for being responsible.

    “How many of you earned some money doing something by the time you were 10 years old?” he asked a crowded room of journalists at the Union League Club, where he had just met privately with affluent donors.

    “Baby-sitting. Cutting grass. Raise your hand.”

    A few tentative hands went up.

    Mr. Gingrich said his proposal, which he had presented as a taste of his “extraordinarily radical” antipoverty ideas, had been distorted by critics.

    “I do not suggest children up to 14, 15 years of age do heavy janitorial work,” he said. They could work in clerical roles or do light maintenance, for instance.

    Mr. Gingrich, who met earlier in the day with Donald J. Trump, announced that Mr. Trump had agreed to create a program of 10 part-time paid “apprenticeships” for children in one of New York’s poorest schools. “He understood exactly what I was getting at,” Mr. Gingrich said. “It fit his own past, his own childhood, his own experience.”

    Note that in summation, the "evil liberal media" has thrown a jab, otherwise know as pointing out nonsense smiley:

    Mr. Trump, of course, did not grow up poor; his father was a wealthy landlord. He once told Forbes magazine that his first income came from collecting soda bottles for the deposit money. He later went around with his father’s rent collectors.


    Newt is a perfect example of the weak conservative who consorts with liberals, therefore I cannot support him, but do wish him well.  Remember when he tried to cozy up to Al Sharpton?  Pathetic.

    But there's nothing wrong with kids working.  I've done lots of school construction jobs, thinking the kids would appreciate the school more if they put something into it, instead of whining and rushing home to play PS3.

     


    Really, Richard?  That's what you were thinking?  Hang on while I go get my lit cigarette which I just spit halfway across the room.


    Richard you scamp!  Zapped us again.  If there wasn't already "Devil's Advocate" we'd have to invent the term just for you.


    This guy is really something, isn't he?

    If he were ever properly convicted of his many felonies over the years I would love to supervise his imprisonment in one of Arpaio's tent cities. I would hand him a shovel in the midst of the 115 degree heat and order him to dig himself out of the hole he finds himself in. ha


    Dream on, my friend.  Newt will always survive.  Hell, he may even be our next president. Welcome to my nightmare.


    Sad that I've lived 56 years just to have to put up with Newt again.


    Kat, he's like the Phoenix rising over and over.  If he becomes president (shudder) you'll be looking at Teflon II.   It's shocking that the Republicans are okay with the idea of someone like Gingrich becoming the leader of the nation.  Any disaster we've endured would seem like feathers in the wind compared to that.


    This is classic Newt. Back in the contract with America days, he used to stand in front of cameras and tell us that he wanted to bring back orphanages. He wanted to take away support from poor families and put the children in orphanages, so they could learn morals and how to work. Sometimes he would paint verbal pictures of little orphan Annie cleaning rooms at the orphanage and building moral strength from her effort. That way she would not grow up to be a welfare mother and sit around expecting a free ride.

    I just read the link to the Nation article after making my comment. Many people remember Newt's rants when he was in Congress. He used to be a regular on C-span at night with all his nasty ideas. What I remember him most for was his stupid idea about orphanages. He is not going to be president.

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