MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE by Michael Wolraich Order today at Barnes & Noble / Amazon / Books-A-Million / Bookshop |
A middle-aged nonentity, a political failure outstripped by history – by the millions of Arabs demanding freedom and democracy in the Middle East – died in Pakistan yesterday. And then the world went mad.
Fresh from providing us with a copy of his birth certificate, the American President turned up in the middle of the night to provide us with a live-time death certificate for Osama bin Laden, killed in a town named after a major in the army of the old British Empire. A single shot to the head, we were told. But the body's secret flight to Afghanistan, an equally secret burial at sea? The weird and creepy disposal of the body – no shrines, please – was almost as creepy as the man and his vicious organisation.
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Fisk is a master story teller and often weaves in his usually irrelevant tale of his beating in Afghanistan which is getting a bit worn out.
He makes the obvious case that capturing Bin Laden alive would create problems, he doesn't mention the big problems, Pakistan would want him back, where to try him. torture him?, the Hague? What Bin Laden would say is one of the smaller problems, as he would not be holding press conferences.
Fisk's outlandish claim 'Betrayed? Of course he was. By the Pakistan military or the Pakistan Inter-Services Intelligence? Quite possibly both.' is poppycock.
Fisk apparently believes that the fractured unstable and weak terrorist supporting government in Pakistan is so formidable, and so smart and so good at keeping secrets, that they served him up for raiding sovereignty violating Americans to dispatch. All without Bin Laden being tipped off by rogue elements in the ISI or his supporters and admirers in Pakistan, who number in the millions and are out in the streets today in Pakistan.
No, Mr. Fisk, Pakistan did not serve up Bin Laden, they are neither that devious nor that wise to have done so. Which is why Bin Laden felt so safe within the borders of Pakistan. In Pakistan he was confident of his security. No one in Pakistan would ever turn him over to the Americans.
And no one in Pakistan ever did. Bin Laden's trust in the corrupt terror promoting government of Pakistani is why he was so totally unprepared when American SEALS burst through his door to do him in.
by NCD on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 11:39am
The idea Fisk starts off with, that the Arab Spring had already rendered bin Laden irrelevant, isn't unique to him. But I think it's profoundly true. And it's poetic justice that bin Laden lived to see much of his dream evaporate.
I think Fisk is right that Pakistan's ISI was harboring him, but I'm not quite as sure that he was betrayed. The number of people who knew bin Laden's precise location would have been kept as small as possible, because of the risk of betrayal for the reward. President Zardari certainly was out of the loop, but the top brass at ISI and the military sure have some 'splain' to do.
You're right about bin Laden having millions of Pakistani admirers, NCD, but as I argued in another In the News thread, they simply are NOT out in the street. I have seen reports of precisely TWO protests in Karachi, numbering a couple of hundred people each, a few dozen marchers in Quetta, and two dozen protesters in Gaza.
Nobody, it seems, is out on the street in Cairo, Amman, Damascus, Sanaa, Algiers, Riyahd, etc. Maybe that will change somewhat after Friday prayers. But for now, I'm struck by the lack of spontaneous popular demonstrations against the killing of bin Laden. I think it proves Fisk's initial point.
by acanuck on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 2:57pm
I don't know what Fisk's 'initial point' was, if it was the Paki's turned Bin Laden in I would say what I said on Destor's blog in more detail, You have got to be kidding if you believe after 10 years in Afghanistan the US military and the Obama administration 'trust' either Afghans or Paki's with the lives and the mission of US special forces operating cross border. It's nuts. The US knows some Paki would immediately get the word to the target, who would scoot and avoid capture.
And if Fisk thinks the Arab revolts are going to bring some Washingtonian democracy where Muslims and Christians sing kumbaya, I believe he is too early in his predictions. There already have been conflicts between Coptics and radical Muslims in Egypt, which has a 10% Christian population. The Muslim protesters demonstrated last month, saying no Muslim should be ruled by a Christian, due to a Coptic being appointed administrator of a province in southern Egypt. Until one Arab country in the Middle East transforms their post-dictator state into a viable, equal justice, secular democracy the outcome in countries like Egypt is anything but clear, even to an expert like Fisk.
by NCD on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 3:34pm
Fisk's initial point was that bin Laden had become an anachronism, an irrelevancy, a dead man walking. And I didn't see anything at all in his piece about singing Kumbaya.
by acanuck on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 6:27pm
http://angryarab.blogspot.com/2011/05/robert-fisk.html
by artappraiser on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 3:26pm
Neat website AA, thanks.
by Bruce Levine on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 6:07pm
Well, I dunno if neat is the word I would use. The professor is definitely a very angry, sarcastic and cynical far lefty, vehemently anti-Zionist with a nearly equal dislike of most Arab governments and of most U.S. foreign policy. But he's real good at it.
Actually, I find his nihilistic sarcasm quite useful in combination with his fluency in Arabic. From reading him, I learned that others like Juan Cole hedge what they say about what they read in Arabic media. Asa'd just blurts out what he actually thinks, no matter how nasty; read in combination with the others, it gives you a better idea of wassup. (Plus, amazingly, in the past, I've found he often ended up coincidentally confirming the picture MEMRI was trying to draw, some of those strange cases where far left and far right meet, where the spectrum makes a circle.)
by artappraiser on Fri, 05/06/2011 - 4:10am
I have no idea whether Fisk is on point or not. But I do know that our government has lied before, and that gives conspiracy theorists that much more room to speculate.
by Donal on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 6:35pm
Thanks for the link.
I believe Fisk is credible. I've read him for at least 20 years, disagree with some of his positions but think he's honest and is able to tap sources whose views - whatever I think of them - are worth knowing.
by Flavius on Fri, 05/06/2011 - 9:50am