MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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Why Bernie Sanders Is a Welcome Addition to the 2016 Democratic Primary Race
By trkingmomoe on Thu, 04/30/2015 - 11:09pm |While the self-labeled Democratic Socialist poses no nomination threat to Clinton, he may be able to act as a further-left counterbalance to Hillary’s more moderate impulses, particularly in the debates. Though he probably won’t run on his folk-singing voice, one subject Bernie will definitely highlight will be thesurging dominance of big money in American politics, an easy contrast with Clinton’s robust support from Wall Street. He’s also a proponent of single-payer health care, spending a trillion dollars on infrastructure, reining in the NSA, and, of course, raising taxes on the rich. In addition, like Obama in 2007, he’ll get to highlight his opposition to the Iraq War (and other foreign interventions) with Hillary’s more hawkish record
This article gives several opinions on what he will bring to the election. Good read and well balanced.
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Don't be so sure that he won't be a nomination threat to Hillary ... Try as she might, there just seems to be little enthusiasm in the people I talk to about Hillary. They don't dislike her, and if she's the nominee, they will all vote for her, but they just don't feel the same excitement as they did when she ran in 2008. A number of friends feel as if her time was 2008, but she lost to Obama and now it's time to move on. There doesn't seem to be the passion that one felt 8 years ago. It now seems more like just going through the motions because it's her turn. She's become the Bob Dole of the Democratic nomination process. Jeez, the campaign has just begun and people are already tired of it. They know what's coming from Hillary and what will be thrown against her by her GOP opponents; Whitewater, Vince Foster, Benghazi, Emails, Monica Lewinsky, etc., etc. Bernie Sanders could just bring a fresh attitude to the campaign and flummox the media operatives and cynical wise-guys who map out the election scenario / maze and then try to run us through it every 4 years. Personally, I would like to see him be a real threat.
by MrSmith1 on Fri, 05/01/2015 - 5:53am
I think he will pave the way for future New Deal type politicians to run for office. We have been condition to think if a presidential candidate has to have big money and famous people supporting him or he is not worthy of the run. That ones that are running for the people and have populations supporting them are going to be losers. Labor has been missing in our politics and that is what he brings to the election is this country's interests of workers. He doesn't have to win to break the corporate mold. He only has to be a threat and gather up a chunk of the population.
I also think people are hungry for a straight talking honest politician that can't be bought. That is the charm of E. Warren is that she is not afraid of powerful money. The country is tired of wars, they are tired of the middle east, they are tired of big oil and tired of the austerity. Most of all we are tired of god, guns and gays.
by trkingmomoe on Fri, 05/01/2015 - 9:16am
What, you have gay fatigue?
by Verified Atheist on Fri, 05/01/2015 - 9:53am
Well, for what it's worth, I actually like her better now than I did in 2008. Not because I think she's any better now than then, but because I've had more time to think about her and my previous reasons for not wanting her to be the Democratic candidate.
by Verified Atheist on Fri, 05/01/2015 - 8:35am
I think she will be a good president and plan to support her but I love the idea that labor has a voice in this election. The GOP has all but wiped out the interest of workers in politics. It takes firebrands like Sanders and Warren to help move this country past the special interests. He will bring back some of the traditional base to the Democratic Party. We need these people to vote again.
by trkingmomoe on Fri, 05/01/2015 - 9:28am
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 05/01/2015 - 10:38am
I've heard that Hillary Clinton had Vince Foster killed because he knew too much about Benghazi.
by Verified Atheist on Fri, 05/01/2015 - 11:09am
P.P. Grayson is not dead in the water. I live in Florida and get weekly emails from him. I read them all because he lets me know what is going on in congress. I don't live in his district but consider him my rep. Redistricting hurt him but he got back into the game and won a seat back. I don't send money very often to political candidates but I do support him with some change when he runs. I look to see him run again for a higher office in this state sometime in the future. It won't be this cycle because he just went through an annulment. He was married to a women for 25 years that was still technically married to another man.
The electorate is different then it was in 1992. The WWII generation is gone and being replaced with a different generations who is liberal. Hillary is going to do well in this election. People know her very well and everyone has already made up their minds on her. Sanders will draw in voters that feel they don't matter.
Another thing, Kos writers in the comment section consider Hillary a contact sport. You want to get on the record list just write a blog on Hillary and post it. It is good for 300+ comments from about 20 different people.
by trkingmomoe on Fri, 05/01/2015 - 12:42pm
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 05/01/2015 - 1:51pm
Sanders is very different than Greyson . It will be harder to burn him. I don't really like Greyson much even though I like liberal voices in congress. He plays the republican's game from the left attempting to throw red meat to liberals with wild attacks on republicans. I don't like that type of over the top hyperbolic statements. I want my liberal politicians to make intelligent fact based arguments without hyperbole. Warren and Sanders do, Greyson not so much.
ps to add about the racial police situation that dems ignored. I don't expect democrats to be proactive, unfortunately. The difference is dems will respond with reasonable attempts to fix things if enough people get noisy. The republicans won't.
by ocean-kat on Fri, 05/01/2015 - 2:08pm
Florida politics can be a cesspool at best. My house rep is the riches man in congress. He flies home to Colorado every week end. Because he parks his yacht at Sarasota and he has a one bedroom condo here and one of his 100 dealerships are here he can run for office. Grayson on the other hand in Orlando has a staff that will get back to you if you live in Florida. My GOP rep only asked for money and stops by long enough to run for office every 2 years and don't have any interest in the district. Greyson does look out for his voters and Florida. Greyson is sane compared to some of the reps from the GOP side of Florida.
by trkingmomoe on Fri, 05/01/2015 - 6:07pm
I'll make an even more full throated endorsement. Grayson is a good congress person. I like the way he votes. He's very clever in finding coalitions to get amendments into bills. I'd vote for him over most other moderate dem representatives. My point was that when he gets up to speak he's a bit of an insulting blowhard that engages in hyperbolic attacks against republicans. Maybe those red meat attacks appeal to some liberals but not me. He's smart, he should be able to come up with smart attacks on republicans. It's less his policies than his manner that enabled the media to burn him so easily. They'll find it harder to do to Sanders.
by ocean-kat on Fri, 05/01/2015 - 7:50pm
It's nice sometimes to see a Grrayson fighting back when so often Dems are unprepared for both the policy & the PR fight, but then sometimes Grayson feels too smarmy high schooler. But in hearings where he was actually digging into where the trillions in bailout/handout went with the Fed et al, he was great.
by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 05/03/2015 - 1:44am
Yeah, I don't watch a lot of video. It takes so much longer than reading. So what I do see is likely the most sensational the media can find to discredit him.
by ocean-kat on Sun, 05/03/2015 - 5:37am
I look forward to celebrating Clinton's victory. I prefer Barney Frank both for his greater intelligence and imore leftist views.but it's time for a woman president, Hillary's there, she's fully qualified ..Go for it.
If Bernie Sanders ran as well it would be the "B" team ganging up against a woman in a pants suit. Should boost her margin.
by Flavius on Fri, 05/01/2015 - 5:46pm
The only way I see Bernie as a real threat to Hillary is if she gets the Dem nomination, then he decides to run as an independent. Then we can all get used to saying President Bush again.
I would not have voted for Hillary in 2008 under any circumstances, but I'm excited now. She impressed me with her willingness to serve under President Obama, and I think she did an admirable job as Secretary of State.
I like the vast majority of what Bernie says and stands for, but I don't see him as being able to win in the general. And if ever we needed a win, it's now. The idea of the Republicans having the whole kit and caboodle makes my blood run cold.
Besides, I'm ready to see what a woman can do. REALLY ready.
by stillidealistic on Sun, 05/03/2015 - 1:21pm
What I find exciting about him is he brings back into the political discourse the needs of workers. This has been missing. I don't expect him to be president but he is playing an important role to swing the country away from our worship of pure capitalism by politicians.
by trkingmomoe on Sun, 05/03/2015 - 4:51pm