MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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Greg Sargent, WaPo this morning:
The White House appears to be playing all kinds of crafty rhetorical games to obscure the answer to a simple question: Has it deliberately placed limits on the scope of the FBI’s renewed background check into allegations against Supreme Court nominee Brett M. Kavanaugh, or not?
As of this morning, there are conflicting reports about who will now be interviewed by the FBI. The New York Times reports that the White House directed the FBI to interview only four people: Mark Judge, who is alleged by Christine Blasey Ford to have acted as Kavanaugh’s accomplice in the sexual assault; P.J. Smyth and Leland Keyser, who Ford claims were also in the house; and Deborah Ramirez, who has accusedKavanaugh of exposing himself to her at Yale.
Meanwhile, The Post reports that Kavanaugh will also be interviewed, but that a third accuser — Julie Swetnick — will not be. It’s also not clear whether Ford herself will be contacted — she has not yet been, according to her lawyer.
You’ll be startled to hear that instead of providing clarity, White House officials have sown further confusion. Press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders told Fox News that the White House is “not micromanaging this process.” Similarly, counselor Kellyanne Conway told CNN that, while the investigation will be “limited in scope,” the White House is not setting those limits, which will be “up to the FBI” to set. Conway pointed to President Trump’s weekend tweet saying the FBI should “interview whoever they deem appropriate,” and insisted (somehow without dissolving into giggles at her own disingenuousness) that Trump respects the FBI’s “independence.”
Despite that, Sanders and Conway both also said terms are being dictated — by Republican senators. But the White House has not released the precise directive it gave to the FBI, so we cannot know whether the White House is actively imposing those same limits on those senators’ behalf. CNN reports that the White House and GOP senators together developed those limits with the aim of making them “as narrow as possible.”
Clear now? Of course it isn’t. Because that’s exactly how the White House and Republican senators want it.
Former FBI agents I spoke with questioned the apparent limits on the renewed background check.
“It’s not an investigation if the FBI is going to accept the dictates of the White House in terms of who you can interview and who you can’t,” John Mindermann, a former FBI special agent who investigated the Watergate break-in, told me. Mindermann added that the idea of such a limited investigation is “ridiculous” and that if this holds, “it would be unprofessional, it would be grossly incomplete, and it would be unfair to the American public.”
Kavanaugh’s classmates off-limits?
Another former Yale classmate of Kavanaugh’s, Chad Ludington, has now stepped forward to contest Kavanaugh’s sanitized account of his drinking at Yale, claiming that “on many occasions,” he personally witnessed Kavanaugh “staggering from alcohol consumption,” which made him “often belligerent and aggressive.” Ludington flatly asserted that Kavanaugh’s testimony to the Senate about this constituted “lies” and said he’s prepared to talk to the FBI.
But NBC News reports that limits imposed by the White House counsel on the FBI’s investigation preclude questioning former classmates who have contradicted Kavanaugh’s accounts of his drinking. Indeed, other former classmates who have tried to offer the FBI information about him tell the Times and the New Yorkerthat they haven’t been interviewed. Democrats have pointed out that Kavanaugh’s drinking should be examined because his minimizing of it goes to the core of his credibility, and at any rate, it appears central to the sexual assault allegations themselves.
Indeed, Mindermann told me that a “complete investigation” would include talking to more people “in all of the venues in which Kavanaugh interacted — private school, parties, law school.” Mindermann added that if the FBI “did the job they should and can do, I would be very surprised if they did not find relevant, very significant additional information about Kavanaugh.”
“A complete background check investigation will not be possible without the ability to interview classmates and associates and anybody with knowledge of the circumstances in the time frame in question,” Dennis Franks, a former FBI agent with two decades of experience, added in an interview with me. “The circumstances in this matter deal with allegations of extensive drinking and behavior while intoxicated. This would normally be an issue that is addressed.”
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John Wagner, WaPo, 4:09 this afternoon:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-adds-to-confusion-over-sco...
by AmericanDreamer on Mon, 10/01/2018 - 5:04pm
Methinks Mitch is not abreast of the message the National Republican Senatorial Committee is working on:
by artappraiser on Mon, 10/01/2018 - 10:16pm
Looks like even Trump can follow these new talking points, and we all know how bad he usually is at that:
Trump, Defending Kavanaugh, Accuses Senate Democrats of Hypocrisy and Dishonesty
@ NYTimes.com, Oct. 1, article including video from news conference on the trade deal labeled President Trump assailed three Democrats who serve on the Senate Judiciary Committee, criticizing their remarks during a hearing into sexual assault accusations against his Supreme Court nominee, Judge Brett M. Kavanaugh.
by artappraiser on Mon, 10/01/2018 - 10:23pm
YUP, clear as a bell when the White House censors the president for dissing a female reporter, that the new GOP talking points are anti-female-harassment!
I don't know what this means for Kavanaugh, but they are going there, must be bleeding female approval rating in important districts in the polls?
by artappraiser on Mon, 10/01/2018 - 10:28pm
very interesting interview with Trump biographer d'Antonio by CNN's Don Lemon right now, on how the weakness of Kavanaugh's reaction ("he likes strong men") and the alcohol focus must really bug Trump, and how he looks down on drinkers
D'Antonio didn't say it straight out but it was clear he thought Trump wouldn't care if Kavanaugh was thrown under a bus. He really thought Kavanaugh's performance must have disgusted him, and the pile on by SNL opener didn't help (He said it's clear that though Trump denies watching SNL, he watches it often, he later lets out in a later tweet or something that he knows what was on it.)
For me, this makes sense of Trump saying "it's up to the Senate, whatever they want". If anyone in the White House is orchestrating what the FBI does, it's probably not him, that's why he also keeps saying the FBI can do what it wants, whether it's true or not.
A reminder of what Maggie Haberman tweeted about the news conference this afternoon:
by artappraiser on Mon, 10/01/2018 - 10:40pm
Russell Berman @ The Atlantic also gets the sense that Trump has washed his hands of Kavanaugh, setting things up so if things go bad, he doesn't get the blame:
‘I Have a Very Open Mind’
President Trump’s support for a “very comprehensive” FBI investigation and his commentary on Brett Kavanaugh’s “difficulty” with alcohol could undercut his nominee and the GOP’s push to confirm him.
by artappraiser on Tue, 10/02/2018 - 2:28am
by artappraiser on Tue, 10/02/2018 - 5:43pm
I just saw this tweet below about what Chad Luddington is telling reporters in his driveway about what Dan Murphy just said about blackouts and Ramirez and it really hit me hard: the media cannot do this, this really is why we have a judicial system and things like the F.B.I. Or even like Judge Judy would be better!
by artappraiser on Mon, 10/01/2018 - 6:46pm
At least for me it'll be easier - none of the he said/she said - they'll all pretty well say the same thing. A certain charm in unanimity.
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 10/01/2018 - 7:04pm
And then there are these rumors of witness tampering.
by moat on Mon, 10/01/2018 - 7:20pm
Hatch is the one who asked Kavanaugh the question of when he first heard of the Ramirez story, and Kavanaugh shrugged, "when it came out". Hatch was reading from a list of questions and this question is odd----I don't remember anything leading up to it. Maybe a Democrat asked. Possibly the "tampering" was orchestrated, and whomever put that question on Hatch's list wanted a disclaimer. It's odd.
by Oxy Mora on Mon, 10/01/2018 - 11:36pm
So this is part of what Flake said last night (he was in New Hampshire yesterday, stoking rumors he may be testing the waters for a presidential run):
"'Tribalism is ruining us': Flake uses Kavanaugh fight to plead for civility and cooperation", Sean Sullivan, WaPo last night: https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/tribalism-is-ruining-us-flake-u...
Meanwhile, Jennifer Rubin is articulating this morning in her WaPo column why not everyone belongs on the Supreme Court: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/opinions/wp/2018/10/02/not-everyone-...
How many senators who are undecided, or previously announced their intention to cast a "yes" vote for Kavanaugh, understand and accept what Rubin is saying? If they do understand and accept it, there is no defensible justification for voting 'yes' on Kavanaugh, regardless of what the FBI does or does not find this week.
In indicating that he will be weighing the FBI's findings this week, and considers "proof" Kavanaugh lied as being disqualifying, Flake shows that however sincere he may be in wishing to promote civility and cooperation in our government and society, there is no evidence so far that he grasps the critical and decisive Rubin point for this upcoming vote, which is a substantive, not an optics or procedural, one.
by AmericanDreamer on Tue, 10/02/2018 - 11:30am
I am going to repeat my criticism of the use of the word tribalism to describe current events. Tribalism suggests that another side is attacking leading to a yin-yang response. Krugman points out that what is happening here is white male resentment
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When Matt Damon did his Brett Kavanaugh imitation on “Saturday Night Live,” you could tell that he nailed it before he said a word. It was all about the face — that sneering, rage-filled scowl. Kavanaugh didn’t sound like a judge at his Senate hearing last week, let alone a potential Supreme Court justice; he didn’t even manage to look like one.
But then again, Lindsey Graham, who went through the hearing with pretty much the same expression on his face, didn’t look much like a senator, either.
There have been many studies of the forces driving Trump support, and in particular the rage that is so pervasive a feature of the MAGA movement. What Thursday’s hearing drove home, however, was that white male rage isn’t restricted to blue-collar guys in diners. It’s also present among people who’ve done very well in life’s lottery, whom you would normally consider very much part of the elite.
In other words, hatred can go along with high income, and all too often does.
At this point there’s overwhelming evidence against the “economic anxiety” hypothesis — the notion that people voted for Donald Trump because they had been hurt by globalization. In fact, people who were doing well financially were just as likely to support Trump as people who were doing badly.
What distinguished Trump voters was, instead, racial resentment. Furthermore, this resentment was and is driven not by actual economic losses at the hands of minority groups, but by fear of losing status in a changing country, one in which the privilege of being a white man isn’t what it used to be.
And here’s the thing: It’s perfectly possible for a man to lead a comfortable, indeed enviable life by any objective standard, yet be consumed with bitterness driven by status anxiety.
You might think that this is impossible, that having a good job and a comfortable life would inoculate someone against envy and hatred. That is, you might think that if you knew nothing of human nature and the world
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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/01/opinion/kavanaugh-white-male-privileg...
Again the reason for separating this racial anxiety as a singular phenomenon is that it does not require the source of the racial anxiety to do anything. Ethnic minorities, women, LGBT merely have to exist. Tribalism suggests that everyone is at each other’s throats. White supremacy identifies the core of the problem.
by rmrd0000 on Tue, 10/02/2018 - 12:18pm
Not all white males have this defect. There is a struggle between those who do and those who don't.
You suffer from Fukuyama's optical illusion. Groups exist even if they don't publish manifestos.
Feminism has been about the interaction between men and women as much as it calls for equal rights and benefits in society.
Does the ACLU represent a tribe? It does if one considers those who oppose them as a group. That group doesn't call itself the Anti-ACLU.
by moat on Tue, 10/02/2018 - 4:01pm
There is no problem with tribes. Belonging to a tribe does not mean that you practice tribalism. Krugman onotes the racial anxiety experienced by some white males. There is nothing a tribe can do you prevent the tribalism demonstrated by those white males.
#MeToo founder Tarana Burke sat behind Professor Ford during the hearing. Other black women also offered their support. Tribes can support other tribes. The white guy had the support of the majority party in the Senate. The Republican leadership had a white woman question Ford, then pushed her aside so that they could protect their buddy Kavanaugh. That was peak white male supremacy. the term Tribalism glosses over the true source of the problem.
Link to article about Burke.
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/Christine-Blasey-...
Krugman specifies the group of white men under discussion.
by rmrd0000 on Tue, 10/02/2018 - 4:47pm
I don't have a problem with tribes and individuals identifying themselves through gathering together as one community. But it doesn't mean people outside that circle are automatically a tribe or that showing support for somebody is an alliance with a separate group. Showing solidarity for other women as a woman reflects the dynamics of that group being that group together.
The way you describe it makes it sound like every individual is a member of a tribe by default. That runs contrary to the experience of finding one's brothers and sisters as a kinship in life that is higher than even one's own family or identification with a state. Without that experience of a higher bond, everything becomes a gang war where the individual who would stand apart is the first to be struck down.
by moat on Tue, 10/02/2018 - 5:21pm
Pardon for interjecting, but a "higher kinship in life, higher than family and definitely not in a gang war" tribe is still a tribe, and a somewhat pretentious one at that.
by NCD on Tue, 10/02/2018 - 5:38pm
Don't you have those experiences with some people?
I am not promoting a Straussian aristocracy. It is a capacity within us as individuals to see others as individuals.
by moat on Tue, 10/02/2018 - 5:44pm
Seeing people as individuals is compatible with recognizing the points RM so eloquently and patiently makes are in fact true.
by NCD on Tue, 10/02/2018 - 7:48pm
Perhaps so. I was challenging the idea of people belonging to groups by default. In so doing, perhaps how I hear his description is different from what he intends.
by moat on Tue, 10/02/2018 - 8:00pm
Trump, as with all demagogues, suppresses and seeks to eliminate individuality and critical thinking/facts, while promoting what Aldous Huxley called "herd poison", a socially cohesive tribe. That is what RM is talking about.
Huxley on demagogues:
The demagogic propagandist must therefore be consistently dogmatic. All his statements are made without qualification. There are no grays in his picture of the world; everything is either diabolically black or celestially white......the propagandist should adopt “a systematically one-sided attitude towards every problem that has to be dealt with.” He must never admit that he might be wrong or that people with a different point of view might be even partially right. Opponents should not be argued with; they should be attacked....
by NCD on Tue, 10/02/2018 - 10:03pm
It is certainly the case that totalitarian impulses presume that all individuals belong to tribes by default. By proposing a limit to the notion that finding common cause is primarily an alliance of groups, I presumed that the common cause being discussed was the rejection of such totality.
by moat on Wed, 10/03/2018 - 8:45am
NCD, been perusing this thread. Seems you have put up a most significant quote here----.....never admit the opponent is even partially right. Just attack.
We have seen this propagandist playbook put to especially good use this week.
Democrats are constitutionally unable to fight such a propaganda war.
It makes me sick.
by Oxy Mora on Thu, 10/04/2018 - 1:58pm
Thanks NCD.
Kavanaugh gets histrionic during the hearings. If Ford had done the same thing, she would have been labeled a hysterical woman. His white Senate buddies defend him. This is white supremacy. Instance of facing that fact let’s go after all the damage identity politics by ethnic minorities is doing to the country.
Trump and Trump Jr are saying that boys and men are at risk because women are voicing the fact that they have been attacked sexually. That is prime white supremacy telling women to shut up. Instead of addressing the reason why the #MeToo movement, LGBT groups, and BLM exist, we need to attack “identity politics”.
Discussion of tribes and identity politics is a diversion. If you look at campaigns, Democrats are already attracting a coalition. The Democratic Gubernatorial candidates in Florida and Georgia won by seeking out Democrats including Democrats who hadn’t voted and Independents. Their Democratic opponents lost by trying to convert Republicans. Trump supporters operate on racial anxiety. Democrats have blacks as a significant part of their base. Democrats are talking policies. Trump supporters who harbor racial anxiety are not going to vote for Democrats.
White voters are going to be judged by the midterms. Republicans have shown that they are willing to work with a white supremacist like Trump. They have also shown that they are willing to kidnap brown and black babies. There is little Democrats can do to convert these voters, in my opinion. White Trump supporters are going to have to change their own hearts.
Democrats can win by energizing their base and asking Independents for their votes.We have to counteract voters who support a white supremacist. We can address the challenge or we
But let’s talk about tribes and identity politics.
by rmrd0000 on Tue, 10/02/2018 - 8:30pm
You are talking about tribes and identity politics. I think neither idea is helpful.
by moat on Tue, 10/02/2018 - 8:37pm
I talk about tribes and identity politics because identity politics was listed as a reason for Hillary Clinton’s loss. More recently, Fukuyama and Appiah focused on identity politics. They argue that identity politics is the reason for emboldening white supremacists. Identity politics is front and center.
by rmrd0000 on Tue, 10/02/2018 - 9:13pm
Well, I don't support either of those arguments. I tried to explain why on the thread devoted to the topic. As can be seen in the many elements discussed there, rejecting the arguments does not point to a logical opposite. The model is flawed and needs to be replaced.
Edited to add:
One element that we can probably agree upon is that politics of protest did not teach white nationalists how to be white nationalists. They were doing their thing long before people started talking about the psychology of who they were. In regards to Fukuyama's argument, this mistake is rooted in seeing all attempts at recognition as inherently about drawing away from others to be acknowledged as a separate group. This model utterly fails to to explain why people struggling to be included in a shared common space are organized.
This flaw is fatal and makes the whole idea a way to talk about things it cannot talk about. The game is over and all people who use the term "identitarians" need to stop doing that.
So, when you say that "identity politics is a scam" and then also say identity politics is the struggle against the powers that be, you are using a framework that you just had cause to discard.
It is as if you wanted to argue against using the model that says our observation of a quantum event determines whether Schrodinger's cat lives or dies and at the end of the process demand both cats in order to take one home to keep as a pet and the other to take back to the pet store for a refund.
by moat on Wed, 10/03/2018 - 6:03pm
Very good point. Those who have struggled for marriage equality, acceptance of LGBTQ in the military, equal rights for women, school integration, access to public education for students with disabilities which had long been denied to some, and civil rights and voting rights protections all sought to be dealt into a shared common space.
I attended a talk Fukuyama recently gave on his new book and he acknowledged the justice of a number of social movement causes he identified specifically. I am not sure what view on this you (the same goes for others who have mentioned him in these exchanges) are attributing to Fukuyama, and whether he in fact holds it.
by AmericanDreamer on Thu, 10/04/2018 - 10:19am
In the course of acknowledging the justice of those causes, did he present them in the context of his model? Were they subject to the same deficits he sees in other cases that the exceptions found a way to overcome? Or were they presented as exceptions whose virtues cancel the applicability of his model?
by moat on Thu, 10/04/2018 - 11:24am
I wouldn't feel able to answer your very good questions as the major point of his remarks did not stick well with me. This was the first time I've seen or heard Fukuyama talk. I have not read any of his books, only perhaps one or two of his articles over the years, and on topics other than this. To respond cogently to your questions I'd feel as though I would need either to find a tape of his talk and watch it again, or perhaps read his book. And also I think would need to review comments in recent threads here on these issues to understand the terms of these debates and what is at issue, including how participants seem to be using terms such as "identity politics" and "tribalism" to be able to respond to what you are asking. I have not to date been attending to those comments or participating in these exchanges of late. I'm sorry I can't do better--that can't be a very satisfying answer, I realize.
by AmericanDreamer on Thu, 10/04/2018 - 11:48am
I read his book The End of History and Introduction to the Reading of Hegel by Alexander Kojève which Fukuyama draws upon extensively for his understanding of the subject. I have many objections to Fukuyama's thesis but rarely see objections to it made by others that accurately reflect what he said. That experience doesn't make me excited to see if he has come up with something new. But, on general principle, figuring out why a thesis is flawed is more important than deciding it is wrong for any given purpose.
Whether one agrees or disagrees with rmrd0000 argument that it is only a scam for political purposes, that contention does not wrestle with the flaws of Fukuyama's thesis as a thesis. Neither does that contention replace poor models with better ones by itself.
by moat on Thu, 10/04/2018 - 1:22pm
What is the thesis of his with which you are disagreeing? If you already discussed this another thread please pardon and point me, if it is not too much trouble, to that thread. You sound well-versed with that earlier work of his.
by AmericanDreamer on Thu, 10/04/2018 - 8:57pm
try this thread, Dreamer
Edit to add: there was a followup by rmrd here. After which rmrd brought it up in my "common good " post here and then posted his own against universalism here.
by artappraiser on Thu, 10/04/2018 - 9:22pm
before Fukuyama, there was related discussion ad nauseum on my very long thread on cultural appropriation, which I meant to be a fun positive thread about good ways our culture was changing but too often ended up as debate with rmrd seriously defending tribalism. And this one of his about skin color couple mos. after PP's on same Many others like that.
by artappraiser on Thu, 10/04/2018 - 9:32pm
Ta-Nehisi Coates on colorism
https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2016/03/nina-simone-face/472107/
https://www.theatlantic.com/notes/2016/03/the-appropriation-of-nina-simone/474186/
Ta-Nehisi Coates on white supremacy
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/02/why-we-write/459909/
by rmrd0000 on Thu, 10/04/2018 - 10:49pm
Thank you. Looks like a lot there. I will check out what I can get to in those threads, no promises on when but then again there is no rush, is there? Somehow methinks these issues will remain with us for a bit, at least, even when they are not being discussed.
by AmericanDreamer on Fri, 10/05/2018 - 11:20am
From a Guardian interview
“You have leftwing and rightwing versions of identity politics. The leftwing version is longer-standing, where different social movements began to emphasise the ways they were different from mainstream culture and that they needed respect in various ways. And then there was a reaction on the right, from people who thought, ‘Well, what about us? Why don’t we qualify for special treatment as well?’ Politically, it is problematic in that it undermines a sense of citizenship. And now you get extremism on both sides.”
He opines that the Right reacted to behavior on the Left This ignores the fact that the Right supports white supremacy and created the need for people who were not straight white males to organize to fight for their rights
by iPhonermrd (not verified) on Thu, 10/04/2018 - 11:40am
Link to Guardian article
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/sep/16/francis-fukuyama-interview...
by rmrd0000 on Thu, 10/04/2018 - 12:03pm
The outrage over identity politics is the scam.
by iPhonermrd (not verified) on Thu, 10/04/2018 - 11:45am
What does Trump and Trump Jr. saying boys and men are at risk because women are speaking up have to do with white supremacy? What does it have to do with race? Does literally everything have to do with race in your view?
by AmericanDreamer on Tue, 10/02/2018 - 9:09pm
In my eyes the Trump statements are prime example of white men telling women to shut up. I think the idea flows threw the legal system. I see it as fueled by white supremacy.
https://newsone.com/3829048/kavanaugh-hearing-white-people-supremacy/
https://www.theroot.com/brett-kavanaugh-and-americas-insistence-on-white...
https://projects.publicsource.org/pittsburgh-race/dani-janae.html
by rmrd0000 on Tue, 10/02/2018 - 10:03pm
Patton Oswald has a great take on this on his Twitter feed regarding scary times
Like, you could be falsely accused of rape in Central Park, and then a racist, brain-damaged businessman could take out full-page ads in the NY Times demanding your execution. Scary times, indeed
https://mobile.twitter.com/pattonoswalt/status/1047221567703244800?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1047221567703244800&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theroot.com%2Fajax%2Finset%2Fiframe%3Fid%3Dtwitter-1047221567703244800%26autosize%3D1
Race and misogyny is all over this
by rmrd0000 on Tue, 10/02/2018 - 10:49pm
Femi-Nazis ? Recall Limbaughs term for uppity women?
His listening audience is the white male Republican base.
by NCD on Tue, 10/02/2018 - 11:47pm
There seems to be a need to avoid discussing the pathology on the Right. Some former Trump supporters may vote for Democratic candidates in the midterms. The switch will come because they have had a change of heart rather than any message coming from Democrats.
The angry white male is a reality. QAnon is a real thing. Republicans are doing nothing to calm the fire they created. Why do they mock a victim of sexual abuse? Why do they suppress votes. Why are they OK with child abuse at the border? Why do they care about same sex partners of foreign dignitaries? There is a clear message that only a certain type of straight while male is tolerated by the GOP. There is an entire media that supports their bigotry.
by rmrd0000 on Wed, 10/03/2018 - 9:20am
Discussion of tribes and identity politics is a diversion.
White voters are going to be judged by the midterms.
lol Judge away. If I thought every black person thought like you I'd abandon them in a heart beat. Same as I'd abandon any other racist. But I think you're an outlier.
by ocean-kat on Tue, 10/02/2018 - 9:10pm
Wait for the headlines if Gillum and Abrams lose.
by rmrd0000 on Tue, 10/02/2018 - 9:19pm
The headline I'd expect to see is:
Republicans win again in Georgia after 16 years of control and Florida after 20 years of control. Gillum and Abrams unable to break 2 decades republican winning streak.
What head lines do you expect to see?
White voters in Georgia and Florida Judged By Black People
by ocean-kat on Tue, 10/02/2018 - 10:02pm
The headlines will be why are whites still backing Trump (The white supremacist)
Edit to add:
Instead of what’s the matter with Kansas, it will be what’s the matter with Florida and Georgia
by rmrd0000 on Tue, 10/02/2018 - 10:25pm
If whites vote for republicans Gillum is only going to get 15% of the vote. It'll be a landslide of historic proportions.
by ocean-kat on Tue, 10/02/2018 - 10:47pm
If the majority of the white votes wind up going for Republicans in Florida and Georgia, you really don’t think that a discussion of race will come up post election?
by rmrd0000 on Fri, 10/05/2018 - 9:43am
McConnell, Coons & Feinstein vs. Graham on making the FBI report public @ CNN's continuing live coverage page
3 hr 9 min ago Mitch McConnell: FBI investigation will not be made public
From CNN's Kristin Wilson
2 hr 58 min ago
Lindsey Graham says FBI investigation should be made public, warns against "the darkest side of politics"
by artappraiser on Tue, 10/02/2018 - 6:38pm
On the coverage of Ramirez, journo colleague respect all around:
by artappraiser on Tue, 10/02/2018 - 7:05pm
by artappraiser on Tue, 10/02/2018 - 7:24pm
by artappraiser on Tue, 10/02/2018 - 10:39pm