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    The Rich Believe They Are Under Attack

    Hedge Fund manager and former Goldman Sachs banker Leon Cooperman, as self-made a billionaire as any billionaire can be, released today a scathing public letter to Barack Obama

    I read his letter and tried to keep an open mind, so hopefully if he's got an intern Googling for responses, he'll read my reply.

    Dear Mr. Cooperman,

    If you, as a self-described man of great wealth feel unfairly attacked and put upon by society and the government, how on Earth do you imagine that the rest of us, also all hard workers, feel?

    You really won me over when you pointed out that your success is attributable to both your hard work and to luck.  That means that you know that hard work is not always rewarded with great wealth.  Indeed, it is usually not awarded with great wealth. 

    If you feel aggrieved, I'm sorry.  It's not personal.  It's that most of us will work as hard as you did and will get nothing like the security that you have won for yourself and your family.  Instead, we will worry about health care, about getting laid off and about sending our kids to college.  We will worry that we might never get to retire and could be expected to work until we reach our graves.

    You mentioned all of the jobs that you and your friends have created.  I believe it would be more accurate to say that these are jobs you control or direct.  They are really created by the aggregate demand of the world's people.  You just get to decide what the job descriptions will be and, to the extent the market will allow it, how little you can get away with paying.  It's, at best, a symbiotic system, so it's not really fair for the richest among us to talk about "job creation" as if it's some sort of favor they've done for society. If anything, by directing the jobs of the vast majority of people, the richest among us are an undemocratic social force.  Don't worry, I'm not straying into "all work is slavery" territory here.  I'm saying that because you're a job creator and I'm not, that your priorities will matter a great more to society and to people's lives than mine will.  Even if a lot of people might prefer my priorities to yours.

    You also claimed for yourself and your friends, credit for progress in general, which seems to give short shrift to the contributions of the vast majority of the world's population.  But, again, what I really think you mean is that you and your friends get to direct progress for much of the world.  It's just like with the jobs, see?  Your vision matters more than other people's.  It might be that people prefer your vision or it might not.  We don't know.  We don't have those kinds of discussions.  The vast majority of us are consulted only during elections (during which the wealthy use their advantage to help candidates reach us en masse, earning personal access for themselves while the rest of us get by with theoretical representation) and by our consumption choices (which are gain influenced and sometimes dictated from higher up the economic food chain).

    It's interesting, Mr. Cooperman, that your open letter to Obama was covered so widely in the media.  I don't expect that if I wrote an open letter to the president that anyone would care much, even though it's possible that I might have more interesting things to say (not claiming it's true, just saying it's possible).  Why do you think that is that your letter should get so much more attention than the thousands of others that Americans have written to their President at any given time?  In your letter you explicitly say that you're not much of a social thinker or writer.  I think you're too hard on yourself.  You wrote a good letter, which is why I'm responding to you.  But surely you see that your wealth has also granted you a certain importance in the eyes of others.

    You mentioned that you're a signatory of Warren Buffett's Giving Pledge, where half, or more, of your fortune will be put to good charitable use by a trust of Buffett's design.  I applaud you and thank you.  But two things, and please don't take this the wrong way.  First, your heirs will still have a leg up on the rest of the world.  You could give away 90% of your fortune and still leave them with the freedom not to have to ever take a job they don't want.  Second, while billionaire philanthropy is a wonderful thing it is, by definition, directed by billionaires.  This philanthropy, then, is an extension of a small minority's power to influence society and the course of future events.  Better than charity would be more equal wealth distribution so that society could be shaped by a broader set of priorities and esthetics.

    You called on the President to elevate the level of discourse to a more civil, transcendent tone. Fair point, as that is what he promised back in 2008.  But the President represents 300 million Americans who have been mostly been left out of very important discussions about how we should all live, work and die.  If anything, he hasn't gone far enough in articulating that.

    But, I agree with you on one thing -- I'd love to have a more open, philosophical and participatory political system where honest debates aren't drowned by rancorous shouting.  How will you help us get there, Mr. Cooperman?  I don't think that asking Obama to ignore the reality of life for the vast majority of Americans, who have worked every bit as hard as you have for far less, is going to cut it.  We can only have the discourse you want when more people are empowered.  That means more people must share in the wealth that we all create and more people should have a voice in the direction of our common progress.

    Sincerely,


    Destor23

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    GOOD letter.

    I've had these conversations with many self-made people and will add more later...

    One thing he might say is that many people "voted" for him--and billionaires like Jobs and Gates--with their dollars, which are a lot harder to part with than a vote.

    If millions didn't like what he did, he wouldn't have all that money.

    I realize that, since he's a banker and not a Jobs, this isn't really true. But it's sort of the generic rich man's argument. Of course, it doesn't apply to Wall Street (so much) and it leaves out the way the rich have slanted the playing field to their advantage.

    But still, it is true that millions of people participate in making certain people, like Walton, much, much wealthier than they are...which is a point you touch on from a different angle.


    It's an interesting argument, I just don't think consumer markets are anywhere near efficient enough that we can say we're "voting" in any way for any business person to have outsized influence.  For one thing, it means that rich people have  a bigger say even in that.  I can buy things at Wal-Mart.  Cooperman can buy a whole Wal-Mart store.

    But the other thing is, even if we all had equal purchasing power, what's my intention when I buy something?  It's not really to enrich or vote for the guy selling me the object.  I blow out a tire, you're the only place within ten miles that can fix it.  I hire your place.  Good for you, very fortuitous.  I'm not saying by having you fix my tire that I'd also like you to use the money to fix the next election to get special tax breaks for your business.


    I agree with this.

    It's just that Walton got rich selling people a lot of stuff they needed, wanted or were willing to buy.

    Leaving aside some important details, it was this that made him rich. If he hadn't been able to satisfy the needs or desires of millions of people, he wouldn't have gotten rich.

    So, once he has the money, what happens next?

    Should rich people be allowed to have an outsized influence on the life and direction of the community? Or does the community belong to all of us equally? You (I think) and I would say the latter.

    This has to do with getting money out of politics. How you do that is a big question.

     


    I don't think one can reasonably expect that wealthy people won't seek and have more political influence than someone that works nine-to-five. I only hope that it can be reduced from the freak show that we've seen lately. Controlling the money/media influence in politics is one strategy; educating the electorate is another.


    I agree.

    I don't have any good answers or thoughts on this one except that, increasingly, this seems to be where the (bike) rubber meets the road.

    When we look back, I think, it has ever been thus and probably more so when the poor and middle class had fewer ways, and less time, to make their voices felt.

    Time is a big issue.

    Regular people have to work and have myriad other things to attend to. The rich can just pay someone very experienced to carry their voice. They also have a lot more personal time to devote to whatever they want.

    But the Internet is a big help for its ease, ubiquity, and low cost access.


    You also claimed for yourself and your friends, credit for progress in general, which seems to give short shrift to the contributions of the vast majority of the world's population.  But, again, what I really think you mean is that you and your friends get to direct progress for much of the world.  It's just like with the jobs, see?

    One more quick one...

    I'm not sure this is entirely true.

    I think Jobs and Gates DID create enormous wealth in the ways they created or helped swell the personal computer industry and all of its offshoots.

    It's not just that they "directed" it; they created it. Not alone by any means, and not alone in the way they portray it.

    And I guess you could always say that if Jobs hadn't created the personal computer, someone else would have. And perhaps that's also true of the Mona Lisa.

    One of the problems, I think, is that this class of folks has so badly exaggerated their contribution and added insult to injury by using their wealth to increase their wealth and consolidate their hold on society...that we, their opponents, can understate their contribution.


    I struggled with this.   I guess my point is that it doesn't really matter if Steve Jobs makes a cool iPod if people don't respond by demanding cool iPods.  Others had made cool MP3 Players and... crickets.  Only Da Vinci could have painted the Mona Lisa.  I don't think that somebody else would have done it.  But the journey from the creation of the painting to it and its creator earning iconic status was pretty darned complicated.

    I'm not trying to diminish anyone's success.  My point is that success has to be recognized to matter for much.  Is the greatest jazz musician of all time necessarily famous, or might it be some guy who plays in a bar that you've never heard of?  There are a lot of people who believe they've invented things better than the Macintosh.  I think even Steve Wozniak is one of them.

    Everybody makes stuff.  But the vast majority of our accomplishments are uncelebrated.


    Aren't you making the argument for Jobs?

    Many people did make the thing, the MP3 player. But it was Jobs who made a player that people overwhelmingly responded to.

    He almost created the category his success was so overwhelming.

    Whether it was through marketing, art, or engineering or all three, he created a market that wasn't there, or wasn't there to the same degree.

    Of course, business is a much more collaborative endeavor than painting. So it's easier to say that Jobs "directed" events than that Da Vinci "directed" the Mona Lisa.

    But I think the word needs to be "created" for both.

    I suppose a Mona Lisa lying, unknown, in the woods would still be the achievement it was (or would it?), while Jobs couldn't have done what he did in isolation from millions of people. But that strikes me as a somewhat arbitrary distinction.

    Being a huge jazz fan, I once had a discussion with someone about all those unsung jazz players whom no one knows. My friend said (without back up): "Not so many of those, if any." I think he may be right.


    Ah, this is kind of it... your friend thinks that talent is eventually recognized and rewarded (if it's genuine).  I don't make that assumption.  I can't put a value on a Mona Lisa sitting in a glade somewhere that nobody ever sees.  If somebody happened upon it, would they immediately recognize the achievement?  Or would the achievement be lost on them without its context within society?

    There's definitely creation involved.  But the celebrated creators have to start giving some thought to the uncelebrated creators.  Instead, they console themselves with the fantasy that they are just better.  I don't think it's that simple.


    I think we're wandering into the "big assumptions" that undergird more specific arguments.

    • If by "giving some thought to" you mean rectifying the lopsided inequality we have now, I'm totally onboard. I've had many, many arguments with old, and now very successful, high school mates who portray themselves as latter day Paul Bunyans who wandered out into the virgin forest with nothing more than a sharp ax and a dream and built an empire "out of nothing." It's delusional. No one gets rich on his own, and a lot of luck is involved, not to mention chicanery in some case (as seems to be the case with Cooperman in particular).

    • But if you mean we need to level out the end result so that everyone gets an equal dose of success under the assumption that success has nothing to do with talent and hard work, then I'd have a hard time with that. So yeah, that unknown guitarist beavering away in his apartment might be better than Clapton, but no, he doesn't "deserve" the success that Clapton has for all the obvious reasons, the main one being: He didn't get his arse out of his apartment.

    That said, if Clapton happened to hear the guy and was (of course) impressed, it would be a good thing for him to give the guy some help getting his art out there.


    I loved your letter.  I went back and read Cooperman's and appreciated your reply even more.

     

    Re Jobs.  I posted something on Steve Jobs shortly after his death.  I didn't want to be disrespectful, but I was trying to remind people about the still-alive Richard Stallman, the open source guy who developed the operating system Jobs used in his original Apple PC.  Stallman was the one who 'created' the system, based on an underlying hacker belief that these innovations should belong to everyone.  I.E.  Free.  Take it, use it, develop it into something even better.  Jobs took that stuff and developed it into something proprietary, patentable, belonging only to him, which, I think was the point of your blog.  Some people assume responsibility, not for creation, but control over other people's creations. 

    I refer everyone to a fantastic piece by Neal Stephenson about Jobs, Wozniak, and the missed opportunity of Open Source:

     

    http://artlung.com/smorgasborg/C_R_Y_P_T_O_N_O_M_I_C_O_N.shtml

     

    Thanks again for a great letter!


    The company selling Batmobiles has gone out of business. Of course, the people giving away the tanks will now also give you a Batmobile instead, if you prefer...

    P.S. Stephenson's essay was also written prior to the introduction of OSX. Why is this important? Because OSX is based on BSD Unix. In a sense, MacOS is also gone.


    My two cents: you absolutely need to distinguish between Gates/Jobs and the hedge funders/private equity guys.  I'm sure a pretty good case can be made that these latter category of "job creators" have been responsible for a net loss of American jobs.  

    Their SOP of loading companies with debt and shedding high-wage jobs has been the primary cause of the evisceration of America's manufacturing base and will ultimately be held responsible for America's long-term economic decline (IMO).  So I think you're attempt to defend these guys on that level falls far short of the mark.  They have made themselves obscenely wealthy while selling out the American worker and destroying America's productive capacity.  

    While their financial chicanery may have masked the long-term destruction they have caused (through massive profits for financial companies and a boom based on artificially low interest rates), the longer-term effects are almost entirely bad for the American working and middle classes.  They cannot plausibly excuse their wealth by claiming that they are sustaining healthy, productive economic activity that benefits anyone but their own speculative class and a few waiters in the better restaurants of our major financial centers.          


    I thought I was distinguishing between Jobs et al and investment bankers.

    The difficulty is the letter that prompted Destor's post came from an investment banker, but I'm not sure that they are the only rich folks who feel under siege.

    So, I agree with you on investment bankers; I also agree that a distinction needs to be made.

    That said, I don't think Jobs' "wealth creation" lets him off the hook from paying higher taxes. I also don't think it gives him the right to have inordinate influence over the political process, which I think is Destor's bottom line point.


    I thought you glossed over that distinction, and I think it's key.  Cooperman wants to assume the mantle of "job creator," and it's at best a stretch to put him in the same class as a Gates, Ford or Carnegie (at worst, it's torturing the comparison until it screams "Stop!").  And I think the best avenue of attack against his overall argument is to point out how bogus his attempt at conflating what he's done to become wealthy versus what those titans of industry did is.

    The American people need to understand that very little of the wealth "created" over the last thirty years has anything to do with building a better mousetrap.  Rather, the new class of wealthy got there by trading inflated paper assets between themselves and arbitraging the standard of living of American workers versus those in the developing world.  Allowing greedy scum like Cooperman to classify himself along with those who actually produce and put people to work only makes it harder for the American people to understand that higher taxes are necessary in order to stop him and his type from gambling with their economic future.


    Very good letter.


    Outstanding letter. Any chance of this being put in The Daily?


    I don't think so, but I am thinking of printing it out, signing my real name to it and sending it to Cooperman.

     

    In the meantime, for your amusement, today's column!

     

    http://www.thedaily.com/page/2011/11/30/113011-opinions-column-world-deb...

     


    Interesting piece, but I feel that your last paragraph is the most powerful one. That concept deserves an article unto itself!


    Excellent letter. Also your Daily piece too, it's last paragraph:

    The holders of the world’s debt tend to be the world’s wealthiest individuals, central banks and financial institutions. The borrowers are typically those who can least afford to pay. In Europe and, to a lesser extent, the U.S., people who were barely getting by are now being asked to pay higher taxes in exchange for fewer government services. These debt payments represent a flow of cash straight to the top of the global financial heap. They are, in effect, the rich taxing the poor.

    When Reagan and the GOP stopped taxing the rich, the rich just took those tax savings and loaned it back to the government. So instead of taxing the wealthy and keeping the ink black, the government borrows from them.


    I think a distinction needs to be made between rich/poor individuals and rich/poor countries. They are often confused. I think Destor confuses them a bit here.

    The leaders of poor countries, especially in Europe, need to promote the growth of industry in their countries. They need to find ways to become richer.

    (They put the poor in their countries in untenable positions.)

    Once events reach this point, there's very little that can be done, as far as I can see. But why did they get to this point?


    The super-rich are under attack.   Good.



    The rich ARE under attack!  Approximately 1/2 of U.S. "taxpayers" pay no tax - they are on the dole.  Yet these pigs at the trough continue to say "don't cut my benefits.  Just raise taxes on the "wealthiest" Americans".

    Open your eyes!  Why do you think Greece, Ireland, etc. are in such dire straights?  Socialism doesn't work.  Bloated, grossly wasteful government does not work.

    Believe in yourself.  Fire Obama in 2012. 


    Well, this is the kind of response I'd expect from some one as wealthy as John Lennon.

    There's only one reason that 47% of the population pays no income tax -- it's because their wages aren't high enough to tax in that manner, likely as a result of the Great Recession.  During economic boom times, the number who pay no federal income tax drops dramatically.  It was under 30% during the best of the Clinton years.  In good times and bad, however, they, of course, pay tons of other taxes.  Oh,. and in good times, the Op Editorialists of the Wall Street Journal complain about the 30% who "pay no taxes."  It just always seems to be about asking the most from those with the least ability to give it.

    Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Italy and Spain are in "dire straits" because they don't control the supply of the currency that they borrow in.  The UK, the US and Japan borrow in their own currencies and are thus not in dire straits.  To join that particular band, you have to give up direct control of your central bank.

    I agree that "bloated, grossly wasteful government does not work," though.  Let's try robust, carefully administered government instead.

     


    Um, I don't think it's the same John Lennon.  The JL's screed kind of goes against everything the other JL ever wrote or sang.


    I've heard that being undead often changes one's perspective.


    Just pullin' this person's leg, ethanator. Assume you're pullin' mine, too?


    Sorry, destor.  Forgot the snark tag.  This was a great post up top, btw.


    Um, I think JL was pulling yours--it was too "broad" an attack.


    Nice response.   

    I like to check out opinionators bios and dates in their lives to help me understand their perspectives,    I began working for a brokerage firm just a few years later than Cooperman began working for Goldman and it is from that common ground I make the following observations.

    People interested in asset management normally have some assets to manage and brokerage firms usually hire people who can bring some money with them so maybe Cooperman's beginnings are not as humble as he would like us to believe.  A plumber in South Bronx, like his father probably did pretty well.  Also, immigration preference has long been given to those who can bring a trade and/or some capital with them.  Immigrant does not automatically mean poor.

    Cooperman, along with so many of his colleagues, seems to have forgotten the old stockbroker admonition about not confusing brains with a bull market.  Yes, he nodded to luck but puts hard work first and never mentions connections at all OR the raging bull market of the past thirty years,

    No doubt Cooperman added the humble beginnings stuff for added credibility as a wealthy man with poor roots.  It just rings hollow to me.


    I find the argument of this letter perplexing.  The letter is explicitly addressed to Barack Obama.  The author fully accepts that he might have to pay more taxes given the economic devastation in the country.  So he doesn't seem to have any particular objection, on policy grounds, to Obama's call for the rich to pay a higher share of the tax burden.

    What irks him is the "tone" of the "rancorous debate".   And yet where has Obama engaged in any of this rancor?  Obama's position seems little different than the author's, and Obama has shown - if anything - an extreme solicitousness toward the opinions and sentiments of his political opponents.

    But the author takes Obama to task for the behavior of his "minions", and demand's Obama get them in line.   What minions?   The chief voices I am aware of in the public sphere now taking a harder line against the rich are all generally very disappointed in the Obama administration, and have clearly struck out on their own.  They are nobody's minions.

    But the author comically demands that Obama eschew "the polarizing vernacular of political militancy."   Somebody please send me an emergency text message the next time Obama displays anything that a reasonable person might call "political militancy."   I long so much for ye olde Rooseveltian rhetoric!   But we don't have FDR.  We have Barack Obama, a middle of the road pol being dragged along by the new populist zeitgeist just like any other pol.

    Perhaps the author is attempting to divide the progressive opposition by calling for Obama to go to rhetorical war against the OWS and 99% movement.


    The letter much resembles a Tom Friedman column in that respect.


    Yes! If only a third party would emerge to do what this failed president is doing!


    Assuming sincerity on Cooperman's part--a BIG assumption, I know--he, like others on the right, look at the left through the wrong end of a telescope and from very far away. Hence, they don't see the distinctions that strike us as large as elephants.

    This is not just true of people on the right, but also of regular shmoes who don't pay a lot of attention, but lightly follow events. This is why, if Obama were to lose in 2012, they would regard it as the country repudiating the liberal agenda. They see Obama as "a far left liberal," even though he is nothing of the sort.

    Some of this is due to propaganda (I think), but a lot of it comes from people not paying very much attention to anything but the big labels that cover over differences.


    Leon Cooperman, formerly of Goldman Sachs, his minions, his afflictions on others, and his life of 'hard work', some anecdotes on Omega and Cooperman. Just another tentacle of the vampire squid?

    Raj Gupta, former head Goldman Sachs, involved with insider trading cases in 2010, 2011, cut his teeth with Cooperman at Omega Advisors.

    Omega Advisors bribery charges:

    Omega Advisors Inc.

    Denver, CO: (Jul-07-07) Federal officials filed a lawsuit against Omega Advisors Inc., the $6 billion hedge fund run by Leon Cooperman, following a US bribery investigation into its investment of more than $100 million in Azerbaijan with Czech financier Viktor Kozeny.  The suit alleged that Kozeny, while living in Aspen, cheated investors of hundreds of millions of dollars by luring them to back his failed bid to seize control of the State Oil Co. of the Azerbaijan Republic in 1998 and that Kozeny paid millions of dollars in bribes to Azeri leaders.

    ......The Incredible Half-Billion-Dollar Azerbaijani Oil Swindle...By the time they were finished, Omega and Lewis had funneled around $180 million into Kozeny's venture. Cooperman was delighted; he told a Wall Street friend that he was anticipating a "ten-to-100 bagger.".....

    US vs Omega Advisors settlement, DOJ.

    Cooperman, Omega Advisors, in bed with big Wall Street banks, Deutsche Bank, which received at least $12.8 billion bail out in the form of TARP funds from the US government.

    Rolling Stone: .....the great vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity, relentlessly jamming its blood funnel into anything that smells like money. In fact, the history of the recent financial crisis, which doubles as a history of the rapid decline and fall of the suddenly swindled dry American empire, reads like a Who's Who of Goldman Sachs graduates....


    Great catch.  For some reason, I don't think the fact that this scumbag is as crooked as they come will get as much play as his POS letter. 


    Destor, after reading your post and Cooperman's letter and this thread, I wonder why you chose to engage with what is, to me, by now a pretty standard rich man's plaint.

    His point of departure is so far from yours, where could you two meet and truly discuss or even argue profitably?

    He thinks he is being picked on unfairly.

    He thinks he worked hard for everything he got.

    He also thinks he owns what he's got so shouldn't be forced to give it up.

    He thinks he already makes an outsized contribution to society, so why are we bothering him.

    He thinks that, without him, other people wouldn't have jobs.

    He is unconscious in the way that those who feel they represent "the majority" or the "majority view" or just "the right view" often are. Can't accuse him of much introspection.

    So he sees even a speck of partisanship from Obama as ruining the tone and overlooks the hyper-partisanship of Bush because their views coincided.

    He does admit to some luck as having contributed to his success, so it's possible he has a slightly guilty conscience. That might be a way in.


    You're probably right.  I picked him because of the tone of his letter, which seems to offer some introspection and even some willingness to be persuaded.  I suspect, but havem't checked, that Cooperman voted for Obama.  I suppose a quick jaunt through opensecrets.org who tell me that for sure.


    Cooperman just invested $1.4 billion in Blackberry/RIM - he's literally insane.

    Better to engage the guy on the corner with Tourette's waving the broken umbrella in his smelly rags.



    Excellent letter.


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