MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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Carrie Bradshaw, of Sex and the City, was once infuriated when a man she had been seeing broke up with her ...on a Post-It. She thought him badly-mannered to employ such tactics, rather than discussing it face-to-face.
I agree. Unfortunately, on the blogosphere, we do not have face-to-face contact. So I must break up with a serial poster here via ... a Post, about It.
In 1922, Emily Post wrote Etiquette in Society, In Business, in Politics and at Home. Her primary purpose in writing the book was to encourage people to behave thoughtfully and responsibly in all human interactions, in whatever venue.
In a recent blog on Panorama, Julee Beam invokes Mrs. Post by asking a currently relevant question: WWED? Or, What would Emily Do (or say) about appropriate behavior in the tech age, on the blogosphere?
http://blogs.waggeneredstrom.com/panorama/2010/09/technology-meet-emily-...
Most sites have Terms of Use. Those written by our hosts at dag blog are good-natured, tolerant of just about everything. Which effectively leaves it up to us to define what constitutes behaving well, or badly, when blogging, here.
Earlier today, of the ten Reader Blogs listed in full view (before the link to see "more") FIVE of them were authored by one person.
Impo, that was an egregious display of bad blogging manners -- demonstrating, if nothing else, a complete disregard for others who have recently posted blogs, knocking them off the front page, in favor of ...what?
So I asked the author of the five-in-one-day blogs why he felt it appropriate to mark so much Reader Blog territory, why he felt it appropriate to "hog" (sorry, Mrs. Post) so much blog space per day. And then I suggested that he might consider self-limiting his contributions to one per day, or maybe even four per week.
His reply was interesting to say the least; and I quote:
"The main thing is to get on the main page and get indexed. That is all that counts."
Well. Do y'all think that is all that counts? Or should we have a gentleman's and gentlewoman's agreement to self-limit numbers of posts per day or week?
Your opinions, please. On this, or on any other blogging manners question that has occurred to you.
Note: My apologies if, by referring to someone else's choices, I am offering a different example of being badly-mannered.
Comments
by Obey on Sun, 10/10/2010 - 4:53pm
Thanks for your opinion, Obey. What, in your view, is a reasonable number of blogs per person, per week? Understanding that people are free to honor that sotto voce convention, or not?
by wws on Sun, 10/10/2010 - 5:12pm
by Obey on Sun, 10/10/2010 - 5:47pm
If someone wants to read five Seaton posts a day, their parents should take their computer away.
by Rootman on Sun, 10/10/2010 - 6:13pm
Am I gonna get a chance to call someone a dullard in this thread?
'Cause that's important to me.
I want that put in the TOS. That I get to do that.
Ta.
by quinn esq on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 7:03pm
I don't know what that means but I would guess David is following in the footsteps of a different historic moral entrepreneur. Dale Carnegie wrote How to Win Friends and Influence People in 1937. David is just skipping the first part. :)
by EmmaZahn on Sun, 10/10/2010 - 4:58pm
Ha! Good cite in Carnegie.
What is your opinion about a reasonable number of blogs, per person, per week?
by wws on Sun, 10/10/2010 - 5:13pm
Three if the week is not unusually eventful. Comments on other peoples' blogs are not just courteous by can draw traffic as well. Try some key words about the f.a.i.r t.a.x and its authors and see.
by EmmaZahn on Sun, 10/10/2010 - 5:40pm
When I said three, I was thinking about here. A group blog is different that a solo blog. Group dynamics will come into play. In fact, they already have. The challenge to David of this post is evidence of them. Before long there will more posts along this line as people jostle each other sorting out their relationships, although with so many refugees from TPMCafe we may be spared the worst of that process. One can only hope.
by EmmaZahn on Sun, 10/10/2010 - 7:57pm
LOL, Emma! Gotta give him credit for trying, though.
Oh; not really. ;o)
by we are stardust on Sun, 10/10/2010 - 5:17pm
Note: since I posted this protest, the blogger in question has deleted the blog in which I questioned him, which wast titled Quote of the Day.
So that exchange is not lost, here it is; judge for yourself:
file:///Users/wendystaebler/Desktop/Exchange%20with%20Seaton.%20dagblog.webarchive
by wws on Sun, 10/10/2010 - 6:54pm
Well -- maybe not. Apparently the blog in question is no longer available.
by wws on Sun, 10/10/2010 - 7:03pm
Try this:
by wws on Sun, 10/10/2010 - 7:19pm
Wendy,
You are really getting at something here that is important to me as a user/addict, my own preferences in where I spend net time.
People who have followed my comments might know that I have said things along the lines of not caring much for blogging. Then I would often get accused of being a hypocrite or similar.
You're getting at what I meant when I would say it.
I never liked a lot of what is originally called blogging because it's egotistical.
That's not meant as a negative or positive, that's just what it is, it's a diary, it's about promoting the blogger as a writer. (If I'm going to read a diary, I'd rather read a great one, like for example, by Salam Pax in the internet age or Samuel Pepys or Anne Frank before that.)
Actually, original blog etiquette referenced this egotism. As a fellow blogger, if you wanted to communicate with another blogger, you didn't post a comment on his post, you did your own post on your own blog and you cross-linked to his. In that way, you helped promote each other as writers in your pursuits of an audience or even a fan club. From the start, that would irk me. I would think: why are they talking to each other across an internet address divide? Why won't they talk to each other on a single page?
It was then that I realized that I don't like blogging that much, instead I love discussion forums, I see them as the opposite of blogging. I most love them when they are just a bunch of people trying to help each other analyze some news or a specific topic, not when they are debates or when they are shout outs to the discussion starter, either pans or raves.
That is also why I have always had a lot of interest in forum software. I like software that enables discussion and analysis and downplays the blogging thing. That is also why I was attracted to TPMCafe so long, and also why I wasn't always that rah-rah about the Reader Blogs section there.
I think Josh Marshall understood and recognized the difference between blogging and a discussion site, and he pushed the Cafe as a discussion site at first. For those who weren't there in the early days, the first few years, the blogging section wasn't popular for commenting (was used mainly for a few rants a day,) but Josh Marshall set up a different section that was much more popular: "Discussion Tables," where readers submitted posts intended to be long term threads of discussion. And the comment discussions on contributor posts often followed that model. I kept hoping it would get back to that, but I should have stopped in 2008 when Marshall made it perfectly clear that he wanted tons of Reader Blogs talking to each other on the same topic of Hillary and Obama and scrolling away quickly, rather than everybody talking to each other on the same thread. I remember Tom Wright started a complaint thread iabout the new pro-blogging software n early 2008 that said it perfectly in his title: The End of Discussion.
When TPMCafe started to get the point where there were fewer contributors with much less varied interests, a dearth in variety of content, the only way to start "Discussion Tables" type threads was to use the Reader Blog function yourself, i.e., few were raising other interesting issues of the day to discuss. So I'd start one myself, even though I often loathed the prosepct of doing so. I wasn't doing that because I love blogging. I don't. And I don't want to be a writer, really I don't, tried it, got published in a minor way, didn't want to do it anymore. I was doing it because I really was interested in the topic and wanted to get more input on it.
I simply want to use the internet to have the input of other people on topics that interest me. If there's variety of input, often I don't even feel the need to put in my two cents, much less argue with them about their opinion, but just to read how others are analyzing something, to get the use of other minds. Especially on those things that don't interest friends, family, or colleagues, that's what I like to use the internet for.
Dont' get me wrong. I think there is nothing wrong with blogging, it's just not a form I like to spend reading time on unless it's high quality (and especially when it's motivated by ideological fervor or is an attempt at activism or swaying people.) And even then, even if high quality--the other day, Emma pointed out to me here that Matt Yglesias produces a ton of content, you can't keep up with it. (BTW, that comment of Emma's was a perfect example of what I come to the internet for--someone else's insight into something that gets my neural nets busy.) Well, with Yglesias, even though I share a lot of interests with him, and think his writing and analysis are often very high quality, I grow tired of reading his view, and only his view, along that of his fans, over and over and over. I want a different perspective, and I don't like that he's still basically blogging.
P.S. And yeah, following someone on Twitter who uses it to talk about what they are doing every day, that's sort of anathema.
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/10/2010 - 9:09pm
Oh and--I have an ambivalent attitude toward David Seaton's blogging, sometimes on, sometimes off, because of this all. He grows tiresome for me as a diarist because in the end, his posts almost always have the same "chicken little says America's sky is falling" topic. It's the same stuff over and over.
HOWEVER, and these are big howevers, he writes well and also he reads well and links to that reading, More importantly to me, he often uses segues that can be developed into more interesting discussions by the commenters. I.E., his posts often start good intelligent discussions.
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/10/2010 - 9:17pm
AA:
Thank you for your thoughtful reply.
I have the same desire you have to: ".... read how others are analyzing something, to get the use of other minds .... "
I don't think that necessarily has to be limited to politics; I'm fascinated by the views of others on almost any topic -- art, music, literature, whatever....if, as you say, there can be discussion, a trading of information or opinion --whether concurring or challenging -- because, imo, it is in considering something from various points of view that some semblance of "truth" (or at least increased knowledge) can be drawn.
One of the unanticipated pleasures, for me, of reading blogs has been in recognizing how many people are not only really smart, but also really witty. Wit has always struck me as the spoonful of sugar that makes any opinion resonate; whether one agrees or disagrees with the point being made, wit adds an element of vitality and optimism to even the darkest subject.
by wws on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 9:45am
I think I shall cut down to four, maybe five a week. I was doing one every day.
by Richard Day on Sun, 10/10/2010 - 6:50pm
"One a day" may be regarded, by some, as a minimum daily requirement, DD -- a vitamin. This post was not intended to be a criticism of you, as the instance of you posting more than one blog per day is negligible.
by wws on Sun, 10/10/2010 - 6:59pm
by CVille Dem on Sun, 10/10/2010 - 7:01pm
Please no. I don't always read your entire post but I always enjoy the pictures. :)
by EmmaZahn on Sun, 10/10/2010 - 7:47pm
by CVille Dem on Sun, 10/10/2010 - 6:58pm
Exactly, C'Ville. That is the point I was and am trying to make.
by wws on Sun, 10/10/2010 - 7:02pm
In reviewing the From the Readers current line-up, I see that a few more Seaton blogs of today have disappeared. This would be a good thing, if their disappearance did not imply that I am exaggerating.
Ergo, please see this list:
http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs
by wws on Sun, 10/10/2010 - 7:42pm
by moat on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 3:59pm
You vying for 'best comment of the day', there, Moat. Got my vote...
by we are stardust on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 4:33pm
I missed this, Moat (wonder why?) This is an example of the wit I so value.
by wws on Tue, 10/12/2010 - 8:32am
I say use the "am I talking too much at this party?" guide. Seriously, you can tell. When all of the sudden you're holding forth in front of the drink table and your only audience is the drink table and people won't even go over there to get new drinks? Too much. Turn it down a notch.
by Michael Maiello on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 3:56pm
Oh, and one rule I seriously do use is the "am I reading?" rule. There's already too much stuff posted here for me to read every day. If I don't have time to read a few posts before I write one of my own, then I don't write. In a lot of ways my fantastically nuanced opinions about politics, society and the economy are already shared by many of you here. I can spare you all the deep revelation that I won't be helping to elect Charlie Palladino as New York's next governor. So I guess I'd expect that when people are on their own blogs they'll post whatever whenever. But here... you're part of a conversation. Over at Firedoglake I'm sure that everyone who blogs there could write the same Catfood Commission post and the same "end foreclosures" post every day. But they don't pile on if somebody beats them to it.
I also am trying to figure out, along the lines of Deadman'a piece from earlier just how much other stuff we could be writing about. Because I don't want to post over and over again about how the government should be helping people more directly either. Most of you have heard my argument, it hasn't changed that much and Tim Geithner still refuses to engage me on the topic except under the zany alias Richard Day and there's just no talking to Geithner when he's like that. :)
by Michael Maiello on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 4:06pm
ahahahahahahahahahahah
I can tell you this that even in my foggy ignorance of economics, Larry Summers sucks. I am so angry about bonuses I probably will blog about them five or six times before xmas. I think about repetition.
It does not stop me, but I think about it.
I am beginning to think that Summers should be in prison. Geithner, I still cannot understand a single thing that he is talking about. I swear, I watch tape interviews of him and I still do not understand it.
I do not think that nerd and I could have a beer and agree on the rules of baseball.
the end.
Except...hahahahahaahahahah
by Richard Day on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 4:21pm
Thanks destor for this common-sense advice--and particularly for providing it constructively.
I would like meta-threads more if they more often presented contructive suggestions rather than focusing on gripes, particularly gripes directed at a particular individual.
And yes, I did once write a TPM post titled, "These reader blogs suck." But I was young and stupid.
by Michael Wolraich on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 4:30pm
"Oh, Grammy; please tell us the story about when you were young and stupid, now that you're old and ....--oh."
by we are stardust on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 4:36pm
haahahahah
I hereby render unto Stardust the Dayly Line of the Day Award for this here Dagblog given to all of her from all of me. hahahaahahahah
by Richard Day on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 4:38pm
Once upon a time, there was a little girl all alone in the blogosphere. She thought that she was very clever and made cheeky jokes about the people who ran the websites.
And then they BANNED HER FOREVER.
The End.
by Michael Wolraich on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 4:46pm
Damn, I get that a lot! Don't s'pose it'd help now if I told ya how much I love the way yer pumps match yer handbag, now, would it?
by we are stardust on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 4:59pm
ahahahahahahah. Okay, I hereby render unto Genghis the Greatest Comeback of the Day Award for this here Dagblog Site, given to all of him from all of me.
hahaahahahahahah
BANNED FOREVER!!!! hahahahaah
by Richard Day on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 5:05pm
Richard you are a genius!
by David Seaton on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 5:15pm
For a long time I appeared shirtless and unbloodied in my reader posts but I was young and needed the money.
by Michael Maiello on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 4:37pm
Interesting, Genghis, that it is possible to make similar choices when one is old and smart.
by wws on Tue, 10/12/2010 - 8:34am
This has been fun... 280 hits and climbing
by David Seaton on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 5:02pm
Welcome, David. Thank you for dropping by here when, until now, you've only responded on your own blog.
I regard this as progress. So -- are you, or are you not, willing to dial back on the number of blogs you post per day? That is the essential question I am raising, specifically with you -- because you are the prime offender -- but also as a general question about Terms of Use that we can all agree upon.
Will you, David, stop posting more than one blog per day? Yes, or no? Before you answer, though, please consider whether or not you, David, would like to see five of ten blogs in any one day, written by one person, other than yourself?
by wws on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 5:13pm
What will he say?
Tune in again next week to see what happens!
And now a word from our sponsor.
by Donal on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 5:19pm
This WWS person really takes himself seriously, don't he though. 294 hits and climbing just trashing po' little me. Think I ought to get a cut out of this somewhere.
by David Seaton on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 5:19pm
I just have to publish this quote over here because it is so damn fine:
Nearly 400 hits resulting from this wonderful quote and not one comment on the quote, just tossing banana peels and assorted refuse at me. Dawg!
by David Seaton on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 5:27pm
With all due respect to Genghis who rocks, since I've already taken a banning, I need to say that this was supremely tacky Dave Seaton, or worse. Bad form, dude.
by we are stardust on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 9:59pm
David, David -- what a cheap shot. After two years of simultaneously frequenting TPM Cafe, you are well aware that I am a woman.
So why is it, exactly, that you resort to referring to "wws" as "him" or "himself" or whatever?
Is this the fallback position of any man challenged by a woman? To impugn her gender and/or sexuality?
If so, ironic, that. When you are so wounded that "no one" responded to your quote on your blog, Quote of the Day. (I, of course, did respond but you ignore that response.)
When will this dissing of women by making derogatory sexual allusions end?
EH?
by wws on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 7:37pm
OK, folks. I think that the point has been sufficiently made, challenged, defended, reiterated, reiterated again, and finally collapsed in a fit of ennuie. In the spirit of "Can't we all get along," I propose that:
a) Bloggers avoid posting more than once a day (occasional exceptions permitted)
b) When making etiquette recommendations, bloggers avoid making negative accusations against individual bloggers
c) Genghis rocks
Follow these simple rules, and we can all live happily ever after. Except for Stars, who has already been banned forever for failing to endorse c).
by Michael Wolraich on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 5:36pm
Genghis rocks, yassuh.
by David Seaton on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 5:41pm
Well, then, I'm a-gonna help you out and type F**K. A-man made a roole that if we use asterisks in that word any longer, we're banned. And hell, they appreciate me marginally better over ta' FDL than ya asshats do here; except that there's nobody to josh with like Grammy Genghis.
by we are stardust on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 5:46pm
JOSH she said JOSH
by David Seaton on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 5:58pm
by we are stardust on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 6:02pm
[Commented edited due to violation of point b, above.]
by brewmn on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 5:44pm
I think I am going to preface my future (one a day) posts with Point b)... and wear garlic
by David Seaton on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 5:56pm
Wow, I'm really uncomfortable with this post, but I've read to the bottom now so I feel like I've taken the class and now I have to write a report.
This'll be short: Starting out with a hypothetical question about an unnamed miscreant seemed okay and I wanted to know the answer, even though I rarely blog more than once a week. Then it got personal and I should have moved on, but I didn't. That's where it got uncomfortable, because now it has turned into a wholesale public bashing of someone who may have been abusing dagblog's good nature by blog-spamming.
Odd that the OP uses Emily Post as a source, when I believe she would be appalled at the direction this has taken. I hope this isn't the way it's going to be here. I really, really hope it isn't, because I think most bloggers here are funny and wise and often brilliant. This kind of thing stinks.
But on to other things: I'm really tired of reading complaints about page style and positioning and fonts and whether or not there are more men than women on the masthead. This is not our website. We're only guests here, and if we don't like the setup we can move along.
There are people who comment here who seem to hate the whole idea. I have to wonder what draws them? I blog and I cross-post here because I'm proud to be a part of this community. If I wasn't, I wouldn't.
End of report.
by Ramona on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 7:34pm
I'm sorry, Ramona, that this post made you uncomfortable. Although I was the poster, I was not the person who named names -- though, after names were named, it seemed contrived to continue the pretense.
I have criticized someone for blog hogging. That, in my opinion, was a fair criticism, for all our sakes. In response:
a) that person has only focused on his own agenda;
b) he has now resorted to referring to me a man, when he knows I am a woman.
Although this was not my original point, I do have to ask: why is it that when a man (or a certain kind of man) is challenged, he resorts to gender bashing, rather than addressing the point raised?
This could affect you, too, Ramona. As could the original impetus for this blog -- that someone could affect you negatively by driving your reasoned, reasonable blogs off the page by his (or her) blog hogging.
I'm sorry if I have made you uncomfortable. I respect your speaking out about the impact of this blog on you. But I would ask you to consider the points I have raised, after this got personal.
by wws on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 7:49pm
I appreciate your response, but I really don't know what more I can say about it. I've always tried to stay out of the personal pile-ons and I'm not going to change over here. Most of what was discussed here could have been taken up with admin and thus resolved behind the curtain. I see this sort of thing as diminishing everyone involved, and I hate that because I have great respect for most everyone here--including you.
I'm not in competition to keep my blog on the front page. I write when I have something to say, and it's great when people comment, but if they didn't I wouldn't stop writing. Blog hogs do get tiresome, but nothing says I have to read them. They're really admin's problem and not mine.
As to the gender thing, I've dealt with that since everybody liked Ike. It's become pretty ho-hum to me. If the person in question has the power to change my life in some way, then yeah, the claws come out, but otherwise--yawn. . .
by Ramona on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 8:07pm
I defer to your better, wiser judgment, Ramona. You are right -- this is an admin question, and therefore not my challenge to make.
I love it when perspective can be adjusted, when someone can say, so reasonably, "yes? So?"
Thanks for the adjustment.
by wws on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 8:45pm
Oh, Wendy, I hope you don't think you were being "taken to task" by me. That wasn't my intent. I appreciate your response, but I wasn't really trying to change your mind. Your post is well-written and intriguing and gave me much to think about. It was the comments that got to me, not your content.
Stay classy, darlin'; it so pisses off the clods.
by Ramona on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 9:23pm
Since i'm the first one to make this 'personal' I had better say a couple of words in my own defence. Firstly, i think impersonal vague insinuations about a certain vague reprehensible sort of behaviour is much worse than naming the person one is accusing and documenting the charge with links and quotes. That way people can judge, and, well, know what they are asked to make a judgment about. Vague impersonal insinuations just causes confusion.
For instance, you say some behavior 'stinks', with some vague reference to, well, it is unclear what. So that means I have to come in and waste time justifying my behavior. Am I being targeted in your 'stinky' charge? God knows. And that is a bad way to communicate if the point is to avoid misunderstanding and social comity.
So I think rule (b) stinks, personally. We're all adults, and should behave accordingly. That, in my opinion, involves not beating around the bush and stating one's concern directly, clearly, concisely, as well as politely.
Secondly, I think giving this kind of issue, one which concerns all reader-bloggers, a public airing to get a sense of what people think would be appropriate is exactly the right thing to. It should be something everyone gets to have their say and then let Genghis and A-man make an informed judgment. It should not be a matter of behind-the-scenes private e-mail exchanges between single individuals who may or may not have some personal grievance.
For pete's sake we're adults, not cry-babies who need to be coddled. That said, I think we've all wasted too much time on this. (no need to respond to this. I really do not wish to start another conversation. In any case I don't intend to participate further in this.)
by Obey on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 8:42pm
by Obey on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 8:52pm
I won't respond to your entire comment since you're not going to read it anyway, but I really need to comment on the above. I thought the question was about blog hogs--generic--and I didn't need to know who the culprit was in order to talk about the problem. Talking about the issue and coming up with ideas about what to do about it would have been the adult thing to do, in my view.
by Ramona on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 8:52pm
Well hey - Obey. Now you've done it --- after being taken to task and feeling duly abashed, and saying so, here you are, offering a perfectly reasonable summary with which I -- god help me -- agree. Ha!
I don't expect you to answer, as I honor your opinion that enough is enough, but I do thank you for a second adjustment in perspective -- imo, direct speak is better than allusion, for all the reasons you mentioned. But even today, in 2010, it clearly does not work as an approach by a woman, if her direct speak is directed in censure of a man. Any man.
So I apologize to you for waffling. And I thank you for cutting to the chase, way up thread.
by wws on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 9:01pm
Is this Post post ever going to die a quiet death?
by LisB on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 11:44pm
it can only die a meta death, much like hamlet in hamletmachine
by Elusive Trope on Tue, 10/12/2010 - 12:03am
Hey, no obscure references allowed. Not meta enough!
by LisB on Tue, 10/12/2010 - 12:06am
Sorry, but i am a commenter in search of blogger and found my textual self caught in this thread.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Characters_in_Search_of_an_Author
by Elusive Trope on Tue, 10/12/2010 - 12:22am
Ah, but aren't we ALL unfinished characters in search of an author to finish our story? Or, a blogger, as the case may be...
by LisB on Tue, 10/12/2010 - 12:25am
yes, we are, except the author is all of us, from the beginning, and thus no one in particular, just a stream of voices, spoken written embodied envisioned, bringing us to the now with no idea of what is next
by Elusive Trope on Tue, 10/12/2010 - 12:30am
But that's what makes life so much fun, no? The un-knowing.
by LisB on Tue, 10/12/2010 - 12:36am
Post postmortem.
by Rootman on Tue, 10/12/2010 - 12:10am
The postman always rings twice.
by LisB on Tue, 10/12/2010 - 12:12am
but how many time does the neo-postman ring?
by Elusive Trope on Tue, 10/12/2010 - 12:24am
We have to wait and see if Justin Beiber is interested in doing the remake.
by LisB on Tue, 10/12/2010 - 12:26am
and, thus, the seventh sign
by Elusive Trope on Tue, 10/12/2010 - 12:31am
Did you say seven?
by LisB on Tue, 10/12/2010 - 12:37am
actually i say this
by Elusive Trope on Tue, 10/12/2010 - 12:47am
And I say this:
by LisB on Tue, 10/12/2010 - 12:52am
Ingmar and I rest our case
by Elusive Trope on Tue, 10/12/2010 - 12:57am
You and Trope are awfully cute tonite. hahahaah
by Richard Day on Tue, 10/12/2010 - 1:46am
Dunno, Lis -- maybe the thread won't die until you offer your blogging veteran's opinion about optimum numbers of blogs per day/week/per person, or any other recommendation you may have to enhance community spirit, which has always been one of your strong suits.
by wws on Tue, 10/12/2010 - 9:44am
Wow; some thread-killing y'all performed here. It was approaching dynamic performance art, too.
by we are stardust on Tue, 10/12/2010 - 9:50am
I'm cutting off comments on this post and the other which had similar content. We ask people to please avoid this kind of dialogue in the future. Trying to moderate etiquette is a good idea in theory, but long experience at TPM demonstrated that it inevitably results in bitter factionalism and distractions from the goal of quality commentary.
I'm sorry if this seems dictatorial, but we'red determined to avoid the what we believe were the worst elements of TPM Cafe. Metaposts are still welcome as long they contain constructive criticism and are not directed at other participants. If you feel that the behavior of a particular blogger is seriously interfering with your participation at dagblog, please contact us privately.
Thanks,
G
by Michael Wolraich on Tue, 10/12/2010 - 9:51am